Nihilarian

Yes, Cleveland is bad. I don't know that they are actually worse than the 0-16 Lions, though. The thing is the Bills seem to really do well against bad teams and fall on their face against the good teams. For a lot of the running teams when the run game falters the QB usually falters. It's what killed Rex Ryan's past teams. When I said given time Tyrod can throw over the middle and play better when the run game is working. The point was that if the Bills switched QB's with Dallas I don't know that their record would be any worse. However, I do know that if Dak Prescott were in Buffalo he would look a whole lot worse than he does in Dallas. The Cowboys have the best O-line in the league. They have the best rushing RB and second best rushing attack behind Buffalo. They have a better receiver corps and a TE They have better coaching on both sides of the ball, better game plans, and are more disciplined all over. As I pointed out in a different thread it took Drew Brees a full two seasons of playing before he developed into the player we see today. In that second season, Brees threw 11 TD's, 15 INT's and went 2-9. The very next year he went 11-4, 27 TD's, 7 INTs. I'm not saying Taylor will ever be as good as Brees. My point here is that different players finish developing at different times. Tyrod Taylor is currently still developing and we can't possibly determine his ceiling when his surrounding cast hasn't been very good all year. Yes, I would love to have Derek Carr behind center in Buffalo. But we don't have him because the GM couldn't identify his talent. We have Tyrod Taylor and until the team finds better they would be foolish to bring in some scrub and expect greatness.

There are a bunch of teams now using that run first philosophy and with the Cowboys, it's currently working the best. Against Cleveland, we saw that given time in the pocket TT can throw over the middle and play better with the run game working. Denver isn't run first but they easily could change that up with TT as they have the championship defense. The Rams, 49ers, Jets, Cleveland, Houston and Chicago might all be looking for a better option at QB. I would really hate to see Taylor throwing bombs to Brandon Marshall, Eric Decker.

Tyrod is not the biggest problem on the offense. The world knows he is a limited pocket QB! So when the run game fails don't put the entire offense on the running QB to throw from the pocket with his receivers all injured. The 2016 Buffalo Bills are a run-first team and are very hard to beat when they get Shady McCoy going. So, the bottom line is to make certain that the Bills run game doesn't ever falter! A better right side of the line, better TE's, better WR's and RB's that won't be stopped like Karlos Williams was last year. Mike Glennon 6'7'' 225... and now look at the Texans Brock Osweiler who was so bad that he made a 1500 yard a year WR in DeAndre Hopkins look bad. The Bills have the right QB they just need a better line (right side), better receivers (that aren't always injured) and a defense that isn't giving up historical amounts of yards to other teams.

Sadly, as Bills fans, we have been down this road before...17 times before! Get your hopes up for the season only to see them shattered along the way. When I pass away I'll have asked to have some Buffalo Bills players to be my pallbearers ..so they can let me down one last time

I've seen enough of Lynn to say, no thanks! There have been several games this season in which the run game falters and Lynn has no answer except to put the game on the QB's shoulders to throw. We Bills fans have seen enough of this over the years, When the run game gets shut down where is the ingenuity from Lynn to get it working again?? That is what got Greg Roman fired in the first place! The 2016 Buffalo Bills are a run-first team and when they run they usually can win. The Bills have a running QB, a superstar at RB and a solid offensive line. So there is no reason to allow any team to shut down the Bills run game like they have in several games or to simply stop running the ball.

I agree. That guy lives in a dream world where the Bills line is always better than the grades they get. PFF grades the Bills line above average because Incognito gets such a high grade. Go look back at Bocephuz threads and see that against all the bad teams the Bills have played this year the line does somewhat okay and against the good teams it outright stinks. Left side good, right side bad. Which brings to mind that at times even Woods and Glenn aren't that good against the better teams. Against the Ravens, McCoy 16 for 58, a 3.6 Avg. Total rushing 24 for 65 yards Against the NY Jets, McCoy 15 for 59, a 3.9 Avg. Total rushing 19 for 86 yards Against the Dolphins, McCoy 8 for 11, a 1.4 Avg. Total rushing 22 for 67 yards Against the Steelers, Mccoy 12 for 24, a 2.3 Avg. Total rushing 18 for 67 yards...all losses Keep it up with the crusade on TT and you will go on ignore for being so obtuse! Not everyone shares your view. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000756816/article/qb-index-the-2017-trade-marketfree-agency-guide "While it's been frustrating to see the Bills fail to expand their passing game, Taylor has defined strengths with his vertical throws and exceptional running. He's also extremely careful with the ball. Put Tyrod with Rex's early Jets defenses, and you'd have a Super Bowl contender. (Rex has been chasing the ghosts of those defenses for six years now.)" The Broncos have such a defense!

I would be willing to bet that if Taylor becomes available that Denver would go after him.

I'd rather have Brian Hoyer If the Bills were to move away from TT. "Glennon's lack of mobility and slow trigger limit his ceiling." http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000756816/article/qb-index-the-2017-trade-marketfree-agency-guide Jeez, forget Tony Romo who couldn't stay healthy behind the best offensive line in the league the last two years. Unless you want to sign a guy for 25 million plus only to see him on IR with Watkins. Read what the article has to say about Taylor and stop thinking somebody else's scrub is a better option. "Taylor has defined strengths with his vertical throws and exceptional running. He's also extremely careful with the ball. Put Tyrod with Rex's early Jets defenses, and you'd have a Super Bowl contender. (Rex has been chasing the ghosts of those defenses for six years now.)" I'd be for keeping TT for now and either seeing what Cardale Jones can do and or draft a QB too. While I think Jones has all the right physical tools, so does EJ.

The NY Jets fired Eric Mangini after a 9-7 season and hired Rex who also went 9-7. It just so happened that the Jets made the playoffs in 2009 at 9-7 and because the defense was so good they made it to the AFC Championship game. We have seen what happens to Rex Ryan's defense this year against good teams. My take is it was the Miami and Jets losses that were the backbreakers this year. 493 yards of offense allowed by Buffalo to the crappy (now 4-10) Jets. 454 yards of offense allowed by Buffalo to the Dolphins and Jay Ajayi had 214 on the ground. Buffalo is currently 27th against the run, 31st in rushing TD's allowed.

This is a very dumb idea. A goofy stork at QB with turnstiles on the right side... just great if you want to lead the league in sacks allowed. Even if Rex is gone I don't see Whaley hanging himself by dumping Tyrod. Besides, Taylor wasn't the biggest problem with the team this year. The defense having epic letdowns against the Jets, Dolphins, Steelers and the run game going invisible at times against some teams. This is a run first team and for the offense to work the team must be able to run against every team. All this and the fact that the leading receiver was playing hurt all season and then the second guy goes down for a few weeks. Clay missing a big game because his wife had a baby. The rest of the receivers are scrubs and try hards. If Chis Hogan was JAG, the rest of the Buffalo receiver corps are JSS.

Buyers remorse...

What owner, GM, team president in his right mind would tell someone weeks before the end of the season they are done and allow them to continue working? None, that's who! Complete rubbish as the team still has an ever so slight chance to make the playoffs.

The reality is that if the Bills had played a Tom Brady at QB team the Bills would now be 6-8. The saddest part of this year has been the defense that so many Bills fans said would get better with another year of learning Ryan's scheme. With more defensive coaches on the Bills payroll. Only got worse. The defense was #10 after playing bad teams and then played the Raiders, Steelers and went to 17th, 18th now* 28th against the run. To be honest this year's defense has been an embarrassment in that first game against the Jets, Dolphins, and Steelers. The Steelers in particular in allowing 236 yards of rushing set a franchise worst record for Buffalo and a franchise best record for Pittsburgh.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8368/doug-marrone Jaguars interim coach Doug Marrone is a candidate for the permanent job. "Experience is critical," GM Dave Caldwell said on Monday. Marrone sort of has it after two years in Buffalo, the second of which featured him quitting on the team in January. Marrone undoubtedly desperately wants the gig. He's been reduced to offensive line coaching work since misjudging his market in 2015. Marrone would be a neither great nor awful hire.

There is no question that is Pete Carrolls defense and his scheme in Seattle. He looks for a particular type of player in the draft and then molds them to his system. Interesting to note that Carroll got his start in the NFL as the Buffalo Bills DB's coach way back when...1984 at the age of 33. Still, Bradly was the Seahawks DC under Carroll for four years and that Jags secondary is a lot like the Seahawks secondary. Their D-line only rushed four and they were very aggressive, quick in getting to the QB when they played Buffalo.

Reading that twitter message from the teams GM it looks like St Doug will get a full-time shot as HC no matter what the team does the next two games.

Bradly might be a guy the Bills could look at for DC after this year. Zoinks! A Seahawks defense in Buffalo!

Yeah, I think the Jags have gone on a 9 game losing streak since they fired OC Greg Olsen and promoted Hackett. 548 passing attempts vs 344 rushing attempts means they are forcing Bortles to carry the offense.We saw the same stuff with Orton.

I think the Jags owner is looking at Tennesse with Mularkey doing pretty good and thinks why not.

Beating Miami 9-5 and QB Matt Moore with a 1-0 record with four TD's passes against the Jets is not a foregone conclusion. The Bills haven't beaten a winning QB all year and only winning team they beat were the Patriots because they faced an injured 3rd string rookie QB who went on IR right after the game. Then the Bills face a NY Jets team in NY. Last place seed stinks.

Not if that have a brain and have been watching games the last two seasons.

It will crack me up if they make Nathaniel Hackett the interim HC.

You make it sound like the difference between the teams was the bounce of the ball or a turnover...It wasn't! The difference was the Bills giving up a historically bad franchise record in yards allowed to a single player in Pittsburgh RB Le'Veon Bell in 236 yards rushing, 3 TD's. Meanwhile, the Dolphins defense held the same player to 10 rushes for 53 yards, 0 TDs. and the Dolphins beating the Steelers. This year's Buffalo defense gave up 493 yards of offense to the crappy 4-10 NY Jets team and 454 yards of offense to Miami this year. Dolphin RB Jay Ajayi 29 rushes for 214 yards alone. This year's Buffalo defense had some major breakdowns along the way and now need a miricle to make the playoffs. They currently hold the 11th seed, which is last. If not for those two division losses to the Jets, Dolphins the Bills would be sitting in the playoffs instead of Miami. I don't see these two team as being close when the Bills defense does a nose dive in critical games. Another one coming up against the 9-5 Dolphins. We'll see.

This year's defense hasn't beaten a QB with a winning record and the run game stalled in the 3rd quarter against the Raiders...didn't get going at all against the Steelers. LeSean McCoy today 19 rushes for 153 yards, 2 TD's, an 8.1 yard per carry average! LeSean McCoy against the Steelers last week. 12 rushes for 27 yards, 1 TD, a 2.3 yard per carry average! Tyrod isn't the only one to fail against the good teams. The difference is when the team fails he gets the majority of the blame.

Put down the crack pipe and watch more games...