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The Time is Now McBeane!
Nihilarian replied to NastyNateSoldiers's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Any QB taken in this draft will need to properly develop to what the NFL does and how it works. The speed of the game is the biggest difference and I suspect that any QB drafted this year will take a few years to develop into being an NFL winner. There are of course a few exceptions but it would be foolish to hope that the QB selected will be an exception. Looking at this year's overall record at 9-7 with a roster filled with holes and a QB ranked 22nd, 25th, 25th the last three seasons. I think it would be in the Bills best interest to find a better bridge QB like Bradford (16th), Keenum (12th), Brees (4th), Smith (8th), McCown (23rd) or go all out for a starter in Cousins (7th) and then use all those picks to fill the holes. Besides, we need to wait until after the senior bowl and the combine to see the final QB rankings. Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson might be up into those first three. If this new regime and scouting dept knows their stuff then perhaps they will find that diamond at 21,22. -
I was chided for mentioning that during the game and it was true. Hackett called a brilliant game at times and later on went into his stupid mode as he called for 2x runs at midfield only to keep putting Bortles in 3rd and long until he eventually failed. Then with the team backed up in their own end zone he calls for 2x passes and a run on 3rd and long. It's as if Hackett was intent on taking Bortles out of his rhythm. All this makes me think that perhaps Bortles isn't half as bad as he looks at times and could really use a quality OC over Hackett, Greg Olsen. It makes me wonder what OCs like Doug Pederson, Pat Shurmur would do for him. In any event, if Tom Coughlin saw what we all saw then I think somethings will change and it won't be their QB.
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They both fail at bringing a team back like Brady did in this game. Like Drees does, like Manning used to do. Like Elway used to do! Like Montana used to do! https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/comebacks_career.htm Tyrod is on par with JP Losman with 3 career comebacks Kirk Cousins has 8, Alex Smith has 19. Jim Kelly had 22.
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I agree and conversely Pat Shurmur as OC things might have been very different too. However, some fans are blinded by TT's 9-7 record while not realizing that even with a slightly better QB at the very least it would have been 10-6 with a win over Carolina and more than likely a win over Cincy to make it 11-5. Needless to say, they also beat the Jags in that playoff game IMO. Almost all the scores over the season are different because now teams are forced to defend against the pass more and this opens up the run game. The Buffalo defense might not go into the toilet for a three-game stretch against the Jets, Saints, and Chargers because the QB is so bad the defense can't get off the field all game. That Saints game ToP 41:23 vs 18:37. The Chargers game 36:05 vs 23:55, the Jets game 33:30 vs 26:30. Run first teams are supposed to be able to control the clock by running the ball and dictate to the opposing defense. The 2017 leaders in time of possession are Philly, Minn, Carolina, Pitt, Denver, Jacksonville, Arizona, Baltimore, New England, NO. Care to know where Buffalo ended in ToP being one of those run-first teams? 30th! Having a turtle at QB who goes into his shell during some games completely ruins the offense as no team can win being one dimensional no matter how good that RB or running game is... Shady is a HoF RB and the Bills are wasting his talent to a degree by not having a better line, QB, and OC. JMO
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I wouldn't be upset should the Bills keep Tyrod Taylor and attempt to further develop him under Brian Deball. All the while drafting a top rookie QB to groom as his replacement or even thinking that Peterman will eventually develop into that role. I'm just so tired of seeing my teams QB listed as one of the worst in the league while the team finishing the season second or near worst in the division year after year for 22 years. Yeah, its been 1995 since this team won the AFC EAST. That's 11 head coaches and countless/endless bad QBs. While I've been a big fan of Tyrod Taylor since he has been in Buffalo up until this season I'm really hoping the Bills move on to a better bridge QB and/or one of the top rookies. Buffalo Bills fans deserve to have a top five QB who can compete for the division.
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NFN GB but I don't know if Keenum plays as well in Dennison's scheme/playcalling as he did in Pat Shurmur's this year. Besides this new regime really wanted to see what they had in Taylor this season IMO. Looking back at Shurmur's past he coached Nick Foles to a career year (8-2) in 2013 and in that time helped Chip Kelly have two 10-6 seasons with top 5 offenses. The Eagles changed QB's to Bradford and things didn't go as well. Shurmur went to Minn and they brought in Bradford in 2016 Bradford started hot going 2-0 this year before his season-ending injury. Pat Shurmur is probably the next NY Giants HC. No question Keenum is having a career year in his sixth year and is greatly helped by an outstanding receiver corps, the #1 defense in the league along with a very potent run game. That said, the Bills brought in new OC Brian Deball and are now moving away from the WCO scheme to an Erhardt/Perkins scheme like the Patriots run. This to me sounds like Taylor is a foregone conclusion move to more of a pocket passer. This also sounds like he will better help develop Peterman. No to Alex Smith, Cousins and Sam Bradford, a new rookie QB look like the stronger possibility, JMHO
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I think that had more to do with Pete Carroll who was an ex-secondary coach who drafted a prototype defensive back player, height, speed and coached them up into his scheme. As far as Cousins goes, doesn't his work ethic remind anyone else of Peyton Manning? Sounds to me like the guy is special. if you can get the guy for 20-24 mill per it solves the problem of finding that very elusive franchise QB. Which allows the team to spend the six picks in the first three rounds on building a better roster. For 2018 Tyrod will make 18 mill per, Alex Smith will make 20 mill per. Stafford is the highest paid QB at 26.5 mill per. For Effs sake Chicago paid Mike Glennon 14 mill per in 2017. Look at that 2017 Redskins team, bad defense, no run game, lousy receiver corps and the Redskins still beat the Rams at LA, the Seahawks at Seattle. Looks to me like the guy carried a bad team to a 7-9 record with 4093 yards passing, 27 TDs. BTW, where is SM currently working
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We didn't know that Dennison was going to be useless in Tyrod's and Peterman's development before the season started and so I actually did expect Taylor to further develop. "Why didn't McCoy GREATLY IMPROVE then?" Because we now know that the run game coordinator/line coach wasn't an upgrade either as both the run game and line regressed. The run game stats besides rushing TDs did get somewhat better later on in the season but I attribute that more to McCoy's ability to make defenders miss over the blocking of the line. There was a real reason as to why Dennison was fired and I'm hoping that Castillio follows him out the door. I was a big fan of Tyrod Taylor until this past year when I saw what Taylor looked like in some games. Most particularly in that Saints game in Buffalo. The Bills drive chart went FG-PUNT-PUNT-PUNT-INTERCEPTION-PUNT-PUNT-DOWNS-TD that one and only TD with 1:10 left in the game was by Nathan Peterman. Peterman stats in the same game against that Saints defense in the fourth quarter. 7 of 10 for 79 yards, 1 TD. A 126.7 rate. Kelvin Benjamin actually saw the ball a few times. Week 2 against Carolina, Taylor went 17 of 25 for 125 yards-0-0. The entire game. Week 10 against the Saints, Taylor went 9 of 18 for 56 yards, 0 TDs, 1 INT with a rate of 33.6 in 3/4 of that game. This performance got him benched. Week 13 against New England, Taylor went 15 of 34 for 115 yards-0-1 INT. a rate of 35.6 The entire game. Wildcard game at Jacksonville, Taylor went 18 of 40 for 148 yards-0-2 INTs. a rate of 44.2 It's not a narrative in my mind, its a fact!
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Is Jeff George still alive?
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You, sir, are entitled to your opinion and I respect that. The simple truth is that if Peterman hadn't played so poorly in the first half of that Chargers game on the road he would still be starting, IMHO. (Speaking of the Chargers I still don't get why the Bills had the tiebreaker over them when the Bills lost outright and had the same record.) Alas, Bortles did what it took to beat the Bills and Taylor didn't, as he had chances in the red zone. Then like in many games this season Tyrod went invisible in the second half of that Jags playoff game as he has done in many, many games in his career. That and 3 points against Carolina, 3 points against the Patriots, 3 points against the Jags. The point is, this teams coach's don't believe in TT as much as some of the fans and I suspect he will no longer be a Buffalo Bill starting the 2018 season. To be honest I was hoping that Taylor would have taken some steps forward this season especially with the addition of a huge red zone target in KB. Part of this I blame the Bills OC Dennison and I suspect the coaches do too and such the reason Dennison is gone.
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I don't think you can contend with either QB and the only reson Bortles is playing in an AFC championship game is because he somehow managed to do just enough for his team to win games. Bortles actually had some good games this last season in which he looked like a decent starting NFL QB and there were others where he looked like he didn't! While Bortles does suck just about as much as TT IMO, he somehow managed to throw 14 of 26 for 214 yards, 1 TD, no INTS. That no INTs is a big reason along with the fact that the Steeler defense had no sacks on him. Things should be different this week against the Patriots. Besides, to contend for a super bowl title you actually need to be in that game. I am rooting for the Jags to win though.
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Both teams ran WCO schemes and Reid took himself out of the play calling as the team improved later in the season after they had lost 5 straight. In those later games the run calls went up and the pass calls went down. Save for the bewildering playoff game. I like Tyrod Taylor and was hoping to see great improvement this last season and he didn't progress. The simple fact is that Alex Smith doesn't need to see a receiver wide open to throw the ball to him. Can be an accurate pocket passer with good ball placement and throws his receivers open. There is a real reason as to why he was #1 overall pick in 2005. Although Smith did have Mike McCarthy, Norv Turner, Jim Hostler, Mike Martz, Jimmy Raye in as many as his first five years as his developmental coaches. Sorta like TT. It wasn't until Jim Harbaugh took over as HC in 2011 and he hired Greg Roman as his OC, Geep Chryst QB coach that Alex Smith came into his own. Plus, that 2011 49er team had a top 5 defense and the offense was #3 in rushing attempts. A perfect way to develop a young QB. Tyrod Taylor also had Greg Roman as his OC when he arrived in Buffalo and the kid excelled at times in Romans offense. Just not to the degree that Alex Smith had developed to. Their actual stats in their first year with Greg Roman are very similar. The thing is that Smith would actually win games that the team needed to come back from.