Nihilarian

Read what Jordan Palmer has to say about this young man. https://clutchpoints.com/nfl-draft-news-josh-allen-thinks-inaccuracy-talk-blown-proportion/

In 2016 with a better team around him he averaged 228.7 yards a game and he could have entered the draft at the end of that year. Instead, he stayed at the school he knew he was going to have great troubles with. In 2017 every player that had touched the ball at Wyoming in 2016 was no longer with the team. This kid was forced to play with a complete noob team in running for his life every other play and his receiver corps had to learn as they went. His O line was bad as were his RBs, wideouts. Not much of a run game so this kid was forced to do it mostly by himself. Those receivers got very little separation and didn't run routes very well besides dropping a lot of passes. Allen would zip a fastball into a receivers hands in the end zone only to see them drop it. If that wasn't bad enough Allen played in a pro-style deep passing scheme that wasn't QB friendly like it was for Baker Mayfield* and Rosen with 4x as many screens and outs that made their stats look so much better. Josh Allen only played two years in college had has room to further develop as so many college QB's improve their completion percentage over a four-year career. Allen is a winner who had back to back 8 win seasons and won his last bowl game with a team of scrubs around him. https://clutchpoints.com/nfl-draft-news-josh-allen-thinks-inaccuracy-talk-blown-proportion/ On another note. Whoever released those old tweets from Allen when he was 15 years old did the Buffalo Bills a huge favor as the kid dropped far enough so the Bills could move up to get him! Think of it as almost every Bills fan in this forum wanted the Bills to trade up to the #2 spot for (Mr. Glass), Josh Rosen by giving up two #1s, two #2s, two #3s and some even wanted the Bills to give up three first rounders for him. The Bills got two blue-chip players in the first round in 2018 and has someone else so aptly put it...they should be crapping glitter!

I did some research on the accuracy issue with Allen and it was mostly because he wasn't setting his feet properly. He knows his footwork was a mess last season and he has been diligently working on that since the end of college. He has improved since then and it showed in the senior bowl, the combine and at his pro day. Another thing Bills fans need to understand is he only played TWO seasons at Wyoming so there is room/time for him to further develop his accuracy. I think what Aikman was referring to is players like Kyle Boller who never really improved that much in the NFL. There is also a huge difference between Boller and Allen. Boller played four years at Cal and his Comp percentage was 38.6, second year, 46.7, third-year 49.3 and his senior year 53.4. Allen was only a two year player at Wyoming and his first year his completion percentage was 56.0 and his senior year was 56.3 which really isn't that far from 60%, Anyway, there were real reasons as to why his Comp % didn't go up and one is that every football player at Wyoming that touched the ball in 2016 besides Allen was gone for the 2017 season. So, the kid was forced to deal with a team filled with noobs, on the O line, the receiver corps and they did drop a lot of balls. Not to mention they were all learning how to run routes. So, when he wasn't running for his life he was making plays with his arm. Another thing is that Josh Allen played in a pro-style offense that wasn't QB friendly as he was throwing deep outs vs the screens and short passes that Rosen and Mayfield threw to make their stats look so much better.

On another note, Guys, give the kid a chance to develop before you go on an anti QB crusade like some have in the past. Can we wait to see if he succeeds or fails before we start bitching?

Amen, brother! and if they screw that part up in surrounding the kid with the proper talent they wasted the player and the pick.

Guys, please don't compare this year QB pick to EJ as that poor guy never stood a chance to develop in Buffalo. Morrone was a sublime idiot as a first-time head coach in not hiring a veteran QB coach and the team went into that season with not only not having a QB coach they also had no veteran QB on the roster with three rookie QBs. On top of that, the team's offensive coordinator (Nathanial Hackett) had never been an NFL OC previously and his extent of NFL offenses was he was a quality control guy for a bit. Think about that for a minute. Exactly how was a rookie QB supposed to develop into an NFL starting QB with absolutely nobody to teach him. That was beyond ridiculously moronic. EJ stated he learned far more about being an NFL QB from watching Kyle Orton prepare for games. Orton was there in EJ's second year in Buffalo. That statement speaks volumes about the lack of teaching the team did with him. Marrone wanted an already NFL knowledgable QB and clearly wanted no part in developing EJ in any way, shape or form. Not to mention that the offensive line was a complete mess! Yes, they had Glenn and Woods but the rest were bums in Doug Legursky, Urbik, and Pears. In EJ's second year, Pears was moved to RG and Henderson RT I hope to god that Beane and McD do things very differently with their rookie QB.

And they would be if any of them knew what this front office/scouting dept knows about evaluating a college QB prospect. It was a great day considering that most fans here wanted the GM to trade away all the picks to get to the #2 spot for Josh Rosen. Now that they moved up a bit to go after the QB they coveted all along fans are complaining they gave up both second-round picks when they wanted them to have given up two 1sts. two 2nds, two 3rds for a guy they passed on.

Good for them. Glad he went to a team where he can sit and learn...and in a different division.

I get a kick out of fans saying that the Bills overpaid for a top-five pick at QB that dropped a bit when most every Bills fan here wanted the Bills to trade away the farm to get Josh Rosen at the #2 spot. Some fans were saying they should give up three firsts to move up to the #2. The draft isn't over and neither is the walk on process so I expect the Bills to turn over every stone out there for some quality offensive players to help protect their QB's. Besides, the Bills could still trade up into the second, third rounds to get some quality talent.

When you take a long hard look back at this year's draft class in a few years you will see that Rosen was far too fragile, Darnold with 22 turnovers in 13 games, Mayfield I liked a lot but he reminds me so much of Johnny football. Bills fans will be wondering how every other team missed on seeing on what Josh Allen brings. Think Arron Rodgers, Ben Rothlisberger type talent but so much will depend on what this FO surrounds this kid with in terms of talent. This team needs quality talent in terms of an offensive center, offensive tackle, and a left guard. It will be good to sit Allen for a season to build that offense.

When all the dust settles on this draft Bills fans will be reversing all this negative talk and gloating about how Beane screwed the rest of the NFL out of the best QB and ILBer in the draft. Trust the process and yet very few are...

Yolo, your head didn't explode when they didn't take Rosen the chosen?

Love the pick! The Bills just got a big, tough, blue-collar kid who played at Wyoming (think snow) and he was a winner with a bunch of nobodies around him.

Most fans just don't get how fragile Rosen was in college and he will be again in the NFL. Glass QBs don't make it.

I'm so damn happy right now I can't stand it. Bills fans will eventually understand and learn what the team just did and I love Beane, McD!!!! Balls of titanium!

YES!!!!!

W000T gave up two second round picks for Rosen or Allen Hoping, praying it's Allen!

Jeez, I would hate it to see Miami take a QB at #11 spot and screw Buffalo

More like praying...

Beane looks like a genius now for not giving up three #1s for that #2 spot.

Yep, lame as usual...

I can't see Rosen, Allen falling to the #12 spot as Arizona, Maimi or some other team will trade up

Denver WILL take Chubb Trade with INdy maybe?

The NY Jets now have 5 QBs on their roster...and they all suck!

Darnold 22 turnovers in 13 games. the NY JESTS welcome the new Mr. ButtFumble. Mark Sanchez says helloooooooo. ROFL