Nihilarian

Are you drunk or stoned? Return when you sober up and can structure a sentence so others can understand it.

I read the article and nowhere in it does it state that it will take Allen two years to develop. Perhaps you could copy and paste the sentence because I didn't see it.

Jeez, slow down. take a breath and think of what you are saying before typing. Obviously, Buffalo wanted Josh Allen all along and worked the phones hard to get him. If you listened to their PC on the draft they stated Allen is a perfect fit in Buffalo as the guy is a big, strong player from Wyoming who has played in the wind, snow, and cold. It was in Rotoworld news that the Miami Dolphins had told Tannehill that if they drafted a QB in the first round this year he would still be the starter. So if either Allen or Rosen were there at the 10 spot Miami would have drafted one of them.

Almost every scout, really? Stop making stuff up! Show me a link that states that anyone, anywhere stated it will take two years of development for Allen. I also think its probably the smartest thing this team can do is to sit their future franchise QB for a year to build a solid offensive line for him.

I realize you are a newcomer to this board. So, I'll take it easy and explain the best I can. The Bills were probably working the phones hard in an attempt to trade to up after Darnold went #3 to the Jets. From what I see no team wanted to trade with them except Tampa and the Bills needed to trade away two second round picks in order to make that deal. This tells me that they were probably fighting with other teams to grab that #7 spot. who knows how many? Then when the Cardinals traded up for Josh Rosen they didn't need to expend much so this tells me no other teams were even interested in trading up for Rosen at that point. Miami was probably hoping he might drop to them at the 11 spot. But they didn't feel that strongly about it or they would have attempted to move up too. Josh Rosen dropped quite a bit due to his injury concerns and he went to a team that also signed another injury prone QB in Sam Bradford. Speaking of Bradford, 9 years in the NFL and made over 110 million dollars. out of 144 games the guy has only played in 80 and his record is 35-45-1. Rosen is very similar to Bradford in that he is a very slick QB when healthy and Sams problem is he can't stay healthy. Bottom line is that neither of those two QB's would have been there at the #12 spot and Buffalo would have a handful of air. Instead, they have two blue-chip players that they needed!!

This is funny as most Bills fans wanted this FO to trade the farm for Josh Rosen at the #2 pick. That was two #1s, two #2s, two #3s AND probably next years first round pick. So Beane told them to shove it. The Bills somehow managed to get their franchise QB of the future and a stud at ILBer in the first round and some fans are bleating like stuck baby sheep. Two blue-chip players and fans are crying. Instead, they should be crapping glitter and cheering what this FO has done so far.

Do you not understand that rookie QBs not only need help from a QB coach all during the 16 game season, they also get a great deal of help from a veteran QB on the roster and their OC? The QB position is probably the most cerebral positions in all of the professional sports. Learning the playbook, all the plays, the nomenclature with the play calling, film study and breakdown of a game tape. Learning how to read a defense, set offensive line protections. Not only did EJ not have a QB coach his rookie season nor a veteran QB to learn from. The only offensive mind in the teams offensive coaching staff was Hackett who was never an NFL OC previously. Can you seriously not comprehend how this would impair a rookie QB's proper development? I have NEVER, EVER heard of an NFL team attempting to develop a rookie QB with no real qualified people on the coaching staff to develop him. In real life as a normal person, it would be like taking a job as a tool and die, maker, apprentice only to find that there is nobody around you qualified to properly train you. It's a 100% setup for failure.

I think they would have traded up had one of those top three QBs been available. You have to realize that Buffalo was working the phones hard with every team after the Jets took Darnold and the only team to offer a trade demanded quite a bit to allow a move. Buffalo offered more than the Cards or other teams so the deal was done. It strikes me that because Arizona paid so little to move up that no other team wanted to move up to draft Rosen.

On another note, I think the Buffalo Bills need to thank whoever released Josh Allen's tweets from high school as that surely caused him to drop in the draft. I would literally hate life had the Jets drafted Allen and the Bills would then need to face that kid 2x a year for over the next decade or more. If not for those Tweets Allen probably goes #1 overall or to the Jets. The Bills FO moved so quickly on Allen as soon as another team would allow them to move up to draft him. I have to wonder if some team investigating his background found those and released them.

Not true? Downing was EJ's coach in his second season and the damage had already been done. Downing's only year in Buffalo was in 2014 and EJ was drafted in 2013 season. The Bills went into that 2013 season with three QBs on the roster, EJ, Thad Lewis and Jeff Tuel. No QB coach or offensive mind other than Nathanial Hackett...who most Bills fans deemed an Idiot. Besides, EJ himself stated that he learned more from watching Kyle Orton prepare for a game than anything any coach had done for him. That statement leads me to believe that Downing was pretty much useless. EJ failed because his coaches failed him and screwed him in his rookie season.

EJ failed in Buffalo mostly because of the clowns who were coaching him decided not to hire a QB coach or even have a veteran QB on the roster. The only guy EJ had to learn from was Nathanial Hackett who had never been an NFL offensive coordinator previously. Want a sure fire way to ruin any QB prospect? Don't hire a QB coach. Don't have a veteran NFL QB on the roster and instead have three rookies all trying to figure stuff out on their own. Then have the guy teaching them with no NFL experience in his job teaching this three rookie QBs the NFL ropes. What an unholy clusterfluck of stupidity by Bills head coach Saint Doug Marrone. EJ never had a fair chance to develop under Marrone.

For the love of god stop making idiotic comments about this young man. Nobody can properly evaluate an NFL career from watching only two seasons of college tape. The kid improved from the end of the college season to the Senior Bowl where the level of competition was equal to his level. To the combine and his pro day as he had the scouts in awe with his passing. Watch him yourself and listen to what the top scouts are saying. There were real reasons why this FO passed on Rosen over Allen.

This! Not sure if they have that many picks unless they trade for some. But I would love to see an offensive center, RT, LG and WR in the second and third.

and that same guy who wrote that article also loved Johhny football and Geno Smith. You can't watch tape of a kid playing in his first two years of college ball and think this will what he will do with the rest of his life. Josh Allen was like 10th grader playing with a bunch of 8th graders around him as he had to carry the team most of the time. This was a scrawny 198lb kid who grew into that big frame in his time at Wyoming. He played in the snow, the cold, the wind at Wyoming and is a blue collar type guy not afraid of hard work. A perfect fit for Buffalo I think. Give the guy a chance before you and others condemn him.

Good read. http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2018/04/2018_nfl_draft_why_josh_allen_thinks_hes_a_perfect_fit_for_the_buffalo_bills.html "I think out of all four or five quarterbacks in this draft, I'm the one that was suited for Buffalo," Allen said. "The type of atmosphere that you have to play in, the weather. The type of toughness it takes to play in a cold weather place. I was that guy. I'm fortunate enough that they came up to get me and I'm going to be forever grateful to be a Buffalo Bill. Hopefully I call this place home for the next 15-20 years." Favre 40 to 54% in college and he improved once in the NFL as did Matthew Stafford, Tyrod Taylor, and others. and among those others, Joe Montana was a 52.4 to 54.2 percent passer.

It really is ridiculous that so many fans are so upset that the team didn't trade up for their guy or pick their guy... When the reality finally sinks in I think most Bills fans will embrace the pick and think that instead of giving up the farm they got their future franchise QB AND a stud linebacker in the first round this year. I know I couldn't be happier or more proud of what this regime has done so far.

Josh Allen's head coach at Wyoming was just on the NFL network talking about both Carson Wentz and Josh Allen. as Craig Bohl coached both. He said Allen is going to push the edge and do those things that he didn't know how many times he was thinking 'oh my" Allen is going to get sacked..and the next thing he sees is a touchdown. He said one time during a scrimmage they called a play with a dump off to the fullback in the flat and the next thing he knows is Allen threw a backside post 65-yard pass on a rope for a TD. Afterward, the coach said what are ya doing? He said Josh, throw the ball to the fullback and Josh said no! Favre says TDs first! Allen was joking around and Craig Bohl said I love him, love him, love him to death.

He also worked with Sam Darnold along with Allen. Not only that he also helped Deshaun Watson last offseason, how did that work out? http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/QB-guru-Deshaun-Watson-is-dynamic-leader-/f3b72e98-249f-43c9-8c7b-4913226c3fff

I really don't get all the lamentation over this draft so far. Buffalo Bills fans should be doing backflips and worshiping Beane for his titanium balls in being patient not overpaying for Josh Rosen at the #2 spot. The Bills not only got their future franchise QB in the first round they also got a stud ILBer with the 16th pick in the first

No. Kim was on the NFL network and stated that while they both watch film they don't really know what they are looking at so they leave the player decisions to the people who do know.

Love the pick! Beane is a genius and got his QB and ILBer in the first round... when almost every Bills fan posting here wanted him to give up two 1sts, two 2nds, two 3rds for just a QB named Josh Rosen with the second overall pick. Some fans even wanted him to give up three firsts for Rosen!

There is also a huge difference between Boller and Allen. Boller played four years at Cal and his Comp percentage was 38.6, second year, 46.7, third-year 49.3 and his senior year 53.4. Allen was only a two year player at Wyoming and his first year his completion percentage was 56.0 and his senior year was 56.3 which really isn't that far from 60%. Billick was also an arrogant jackass in thinking he could fix Boller.

That writer also loved Geno Smith and Johnny Manziel says enough to me that this guy doesn't know what he is talking about. You didn't even read the article I linked! Read the entire article and then get back to me. Of course, the big question with Allen is his accuracy and his 56.2 completion percentage, which scares the heck out of offensive coaches. But guess what? "We've fixed it,'' said Palmer. He said with Allen's poor completion percentage "there are two ways to look at it: one, what he's doing mechanically, and then two what's happening around him, receivers and the concepts and the coverages that they're seeing and there's a lot of complexities that go into both of those. "From a mechanics standpoint you have to be athletic enough take an old muscle memory and create a new muscle memory. Take something that was an old habit and replace it with the new habit. With Josh, it was tied to his base and kind of where his feet are placed and how short his front stride is. And so making a small adjustment has made a huge impact.''

Yes, and Palmer also worked with Deshaun Watson the last offseason. How did that work out? The writer of that article Rodger Sherman also states I’m often wrong. (I was huge into Johnny Manziel and [speaks in a small voice so people can’t hear] Geno Smith.)

Like I said in an earlier post in this thread. "Think of it as almost every Bills fan in this forum wanted the Bills to trade up to the #2 spot for (Mr. Glass), Josh Rosen by giving up two #1s, two #2s, two #3s and some even wanted the Bills to give up three first rounders for him. The Bills got two blue-chip players in the first round in 2018 and has someone else so aptly put it...they should be crapping glitter!"