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Deandre Hopkins in ten times the receiver Watkins is and he will make about as much. Watkins is the 65th best receiver in the league ATM yards wise and in my view not worth anywhere near what he was paid by KC. Just because some team is foolish enough to pay him that much doesn't make him a top 5 WR.

For a WR that was injured more often than not and the Bills didn't even throw to him that often when he was here. Sammy Watkins signed a 3 year, $48,000,000 contract with the Kansas City Chiefs, including a $21,000,000 signing bonus, $30,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $16,000,000. Would you really be willing to eat that contract for a decoy? The Bills are rebuilding and there are 4-6 WRs in the 2019 draft class that could be first round picks. Perhaps the Chiefs will find a way to have him earn what he makes. I kinda doubt it though.

I watched it and he looked great. Now can we trade McD, Daboll for Andy Reid? BTW to the fans complaining that the Bills should have kept Watkins, he had one target all night. Still a very expensive decoy.

While Mahomes looks brilliant so far. The simple truth is the Buffalo Bills don't have Andy Reid coaching him. Nor do they have that KC offensive line or those KC receivers, RBs. The Bills would have put in Mahomes last year against the Chargers and probably ruined him in Dennison's offense. We can pine away about woulda, shoulda, coulda and it gets us nowhere. Let Allen develop and see where he goes.

Perhaps I left out what the Bills have been attempting to run this year. Ball control run game is about the furthest offense from what Daboll calls as he has been calling a pass first, quick strike offense that hasn't been working. The only reason the Bills had more rushing attempts then passing attempts last year was because the QB Taylor had 84 rush attempts with 427 yards rushing. I do believe that Dennison was attempting to pass more and Taylor just wouldn't throw it. Anyway, I really do want the Bills to run that ball control run first offense to take pressure off the rookie QB so he doesn't need to carry the offense all on his own. Marrone, Ryan, Lynn all had the right idea it's just they didn't have a decent QB. Before them Gailey ran a pass first spread offense and went 4-12, 6-10, 6-10 in doing so. He didn't have a QB either.

This is not true. Although it should be because you need a balanced attack that can move the chains with the run or pass. You have to admit that under Marrone and Ryan the Bills made it to 9-7, 8-8 with one of the best run games in the league. The problem was they had a QB that wouldn't throw unless the receiver was wide open so that passing game never attained more than a mediocre attack ranking near last in passing. Daboll has had problems getting the offense going because they have been behind in points in 3 out of 4 games and in this last game the Packers stuffed the run on 2nd, 3rd and short and it went downhill from there. If you can't run the ball it puts everything on a rookie QB to carry the offense and that is never a good option. From what I understand the game plan for the Packers game was to give Shady McCoy 20-25 touches and he saw only 5 rushing attempts, 3 receptions. So the game plan went out the window and onto Josh Allen's shoulders.

That worked for JP & Trent...

Can we trade away Daboll and Castillo instead?

I've seen that all year in each and every game in which a defender is left unblocked because a Bills linemen takes another's block. Dawkins did it once and he blocked the DT while the edge rusher came free. I've seen this happen way more often then it should. This shouldn't happen after the preseason is over. I think it's a cross between bad coaching (Juan Castillo) /play calling/game planning (Daboll). If McD fires Daboll he also needs to fire Castillo even more so. The line can't block properly, bad discipline in getting so many penalties, no run game to speak of.

I yearn for Anthony Lynn calling plays, running the offense. The 2016 Buffalo Bills had the #1 team in the NFL in rushing yards, #1 in the NFL in rushing TDs, #1 in the NFL yards per rushing attempt. 492 rushing attempts while being the #2 team in attempts. 474 passing attempts with Tyrod and EJ at QB. Now swap in Josh Allen and it gives the rookie QB a solid run game to enable him to develop properly. The Bills ran the WC offense with shorter throws to help move the chains and make first downs. The problem was they had Tyrod who wouldn't attempt to throw unless the receiver was wide open. This Brian Daboll offense reminds me of Turk Schonert calling plays under Dick Jauron in 2008 in that Mike Martz deep passing scheme that ruined both JP Losman & Trent Edwards by getting them hammered. Attempting 5-7 step drop backs behind a line that wouldn't give them the time to make those deep throws. On another note to allow the OPs wish to come true. McD does have a very seasoned OC on the team in Terry Robiskie the WR coach who coached 2nd year QB Marcus Mariota in Tenn. under Mike Mularkey to a 9-7 record 2x. Should he really want to make a change at OC to save Allen from being ruined. Stating that it looks like Mike Mularkey is out of work and might want to return to the NFL as an OC.

The OP contradicted himself on #7 with #8 because if you can't get 3 yards on two rushing attempts using a 7 man line on offense then there is clearly talent lacking. This team lacks quality talent in certain areas like most of the offensive line and WR corps. Both look to be some of the very worst in the league as most starters wouldn't even be backups on good teams. I do agree with you on Daboll as he stinks! Once the team gets behind in points the run game plan goes out the window and this OC calls plays like he has an experienced veteran QB back there…with time to throw to receivers who can get open and not drop balls. The run game and the TE are a rookie QBs best friend along with a short passing game to move the chains and let the QB gain some rhythm, confidence. Each and every week the Bills should be pounding that rock all game long regardless of the score and they aren't. The best player on offense is Shady McCoy and he should be getting between 20-25 touches a game and this game he had 8 touches. Shady even stated that the game plan this week was to get him more touches and it didn't happen

That old blitzburgh vaunted Steeler defense is a shell of what it used to be. They don't blitz anymore.

The thing is the Bills defense started so slowly in those three losses that once the team is behind in points the offense can't seem to get going at all. Then later on in the game they seem to play much better. The other thing is it looked like Hughes was being held on almost every play against GB and it wasn't being called. That Minnesota game the offense had 38 rushes and in this weeks game only had 16 rushes all game. McCoy getting only 5 carries and he even stated that the game plan going into this game was getting him more touches and it didn't happen.

It's not us! This is a bad, bad team. Bad offensive line, bad WR corps, bad play calling, game plan. This is an OC who was never that good to begin with and he is not setting up the offense for a rookie to succeed. He is setting up an offense for a pass first offense with a crappy line that can't hold their pass blocks and with receivers that can't get open, get separation. Plus they seem to drop more balls than other teams. This OC thinks he has the Falcons offense with Matt Ryan at QB that he is calling plays for... All this falls on bad coaching from the OC, the run game coordinator/line coach, receivers coach. This offense might get fixed somewhat with better talent all around but I kinda doubt with these coaches.

Allen is a rookie and his best friends are the TE and a strong run game. The passing game should consist of short outs for easy completions to move the chains and let the QB get into a rhythm. This isn't happening from what I see. The best player on offense is Shady McCoy and he saw only 5 touches in the run game while having a 4.8 YPC average. He did see 6 targets as a receiver, 3 receptions and he is the best pass catcher, catch percentage wise. How this player isn't seeing between 20-25 touches a game is criminal. No run game to speak of and constant passing with a bad line, bad WRs, It's simply bad, bad coaching.

There are 3-4 WRs projected to be first round picks in next years draft and it could be as many as 6 all told. At this rate the Bills might get a top 5 draft pick and they could trade back and get a WR and an OT/OG/C or perhaps all of them if they end up with the first overall and trade back for many picks. It's a long painful road to a top 5 draft pick...

Not to mention that he was getting mugged, held, hooked on most every play this week. The defense wasn't the problem. That pick six would have helped though.

A new RG, RT wouldn't hurt either

I don't agree as near the end of the game when Pettine stopped blitzing Allen had time in the pocket he looked very stable, confidant and threw with zip on a few throws. Besides, pulling a rookie QB for any reason other than he is injured could destroy that QBs confidence. Will he then be looking over his shoulder with every mistake? We fans knew this preseason was going to be a very rough year with players on the O line that needed replacing, lousy WR corps. So many predicted 4-12 and yet are bitching anyway.

Well, he actually had only 5 rush attempts, 3 receptions with 6 targets. So he did only get 8 touches.

You only mentioned the QB, so you are in my view. That facts are it was a team loss and the entire offense needs to shoulder some blame. Not just the QB. Yes, the QB had a bad game but when the offense finally did make a first down the drive was killed by some moron getting a penalty. The line not being able to make a 3 yard first down in two rush attempts early. This sets the stage for the OC losing confidence in the run game and starts calling more pass plays. The best player on offense in Shady McCoy had only 5 rushing attempts all game and his rush average was 4.8 yards per carry. Shady should be seeing 25 touches a game. He is also the Bills best receiver catch percentage wise. Just lame!

We also saw at the end when he had time he was able to make throws and the receivers actually caught it. The play calling was suspect for most of the game. The team needed to make 3 yards on two attempts rushing it and couldn't get it done. Allen didn't get much help from the rest of the offense as this was a rookie QB playing on a very bad offensive team. I have no doubt that most rational posters would agree with that. Perhaps even the irrational would agree too.

Better sacks then picks. Yes, he caused some of his own sacks. Meanwhile his O line whiffed on blocks, blocked the wrong guy and even when the team made a first down they caused a penalty to help kill the drive. His receivers stink and it seems they all have a strange virus of "alligator arms". It's highly contagious so even a Bills DB dropped a pick six. The OC kept calling for deep routes with no outlets for the rookie QB and then when the game is out of hand he changes up and calls shorter passing plays. The entire Bills offensive assembly caused that smell from Green Bay

LOTS-0-FILM watching this week...

That Bills O line sucks so bad. Blocking the wrong guy... whiffing on blocks...the team makes a first down so it's penalty time. The line coach sucks. The play calling stinks until the game is out of hand and then the OC decides to call shorter passes.