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After thinking about it some more, McD did take over the play calling for Fraizer in the second half of that Ravens game and it did have an effect. Plus, he did pull Peterman and put n Allen. So, I think he does want to win this year. How many games do the Bills lose before McD takes some action to fix the offense, the run game, the protections? I for one don't put all the blame on the rookie QB when he is being asked to carry the entire offense.

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I'm not in the fire'em all camp just yet. Like I stated though, I've been around long enough to know when something is fixable or unfixable. This offense is fixable just by taking the offense off the rookie QB shoulders and put it squarely on LeSean McCoy's, Chris Ivory's shoulders. Be innovative! On third down and one instead of a run up the middle in the I formation with 7 Bills on the line, do a toss sweep, QB sneak and if it doesn't work don't give up on the run game. Only 5 carries for Shady against GB when he was averaging 4.8 YPC is ridiculous as is only 3 catches. 7 sacks on Allen was ridiculous too. How long does this HC wait to do something to fix the offense? When does it become too late to save the season? Does that rookie QB have to get ruined before things change? Like I also said, if McD is doing this on purpose to tank the year to get some of those pass rushers in the draft...then I hope he gets fired.

It can though John, meaning that if McD gets fed up with seeing no run game and the entire offense placed on that rookie's shoulders game after game. There is no question that LeSean Mccoy is the best player on offense and he isn't being used. Look what happened in 2016 when Rex Ryan fired Greg Roman after two weeks of no run game and replaced him with RB coach Anthony Lynn. After losing two straight with no run game the Bills went on a four-game win tear after firing Roman. That first game in 2016 against Baltimore the Bills rushed 24 times for 64 yards (and at least Roman attempted to run the ball). That second game against the NY Jets the Bills rushed 19 times for 86 yards. The real culprit was Bills DC Dennis Thurman who allowed the Jets to rush 36 times for 123 yards, 3 Tds while controlling the clock 39:12 to 20:48. The next game against Arizona the Bills rushed 32 times for 208 yards, 3 TDs. At the end of the 2016 season, the Bills were #2 in rushing attempts, #1 in rush yards, #1 in rush TDs. by switching to Lynn as OC. Now you may ask who should McD turn to if he wants to make a change at OC. Bills WR coach Terry Robiskie has been an NFL head coach and an NFL OC. I really don't know if he can fix the offensive line protections or get the run game going. But the man did coach Marcus Mariota at Tenn and left Tenn along with Mularkey. Brian Daboll is going to get this rookie QB killed, concussed or ruined like JP, Trent Edwards if he doesn't change things up. McD is a defensive minded HC and he must know what happens with little or no run game. While I like McD, If his plan is to tank this year then I hope he gets fired.

Sorry BB but I've seen enough Fu*kups in Buffalo Bills coaching over the years to know when a team is screwed. This year's offense is bad and will bring down the team. No amount of patience will help. The Buffalo Bills offensive line can't run block, can't pass block, they miss blocks, they block the wrong guy, they screw up protections so that a free Blitzer comes and they fail to even acknowledge it, much less pick it up. This is all on coaching! The Bills line coach/run game coordinator stinks! The Buffalo Bills receiver corps stinks in that they can't get separation, can't get open and are not being used properly to help the rookie QB. The Buffalo Bills offensive coordinator stinks! Once the team gets behind in points the offensive game plan goes out the window and the entire offense now rests on the rookie QB to make plays. This has happened in 3 of 4 games so far. The teams best player on offense is LeSean McCoy and he isn't even being used very often. He was getting 4.8 YPC average running against GB and he only had 5 carries. That is just criminally negligent. Shady is also the teams best receiver so he should always be an outlet for Allen if he is not running the ball, and yet...NOPE!

John Fox was also a defensive minded NFL head coach who first stated he wanted high FOOTBALL Character guys...where is he now? Meanwhile McD has signed, retained and drafted low character players! It was Marv Levy that stated back in the 80s that... "Football doesn't build character, it reveals character." "Ability without character will lose. The Bills are going to be a team of high character. That stamp I will push very hard. I hope we can convey that to our fans and project something very special to the rest of the nation." — What also made Marv so good was his confidence in his own job security that he hired an ex Colts head coach in Ted Marchibroda to coach his offense. Ole Ted instilled that hurry up/no huddle offense with the old Redskins "counter trey" run scheme so Thurman could make those great cutbacks. Then he taught Jimbo to call his own offensive plays like the old time QBs used to do. So it didn't matter that much to the Buffalo offense when Marchibroda was rehired by the Colts to be their HC.

Gailey used a lot of 5 WR sets that spread the offense from sideline to sideline. Now you would think would make it easier for pass rushers to get to the QB but Gailey had Fitz at QB and Stevie Johnson as WR. So Fitz would take the snap and throw a quick slant to SJ. Defenders didn't have time to respond and Johnson although not a precise route runner almost always managed to find a way to get open. This spread formation also made it great to run out of the shotgun and defenders would be so spread out all the RB had to do was beat one guy usually. To run this offensive scheme the OC would have to do some innovative things and so far Daboll can't even give his best weapon on offense the ball. So far Allen has more rushing yards then both Shady and Ivory. Ivory, 31 attempts, 81 yards in 4 games. McCoy, 21 attempts, 85 yards, 3 games. Allen has 116 yards rushing. To put it mildly so far Brian Daboll is by far the very worst offensive coordinator the Buffalo Bills has had as far back as I can remember. Even Alex Van Pelt and Turk Schonert were better. Buffalo is 31st in yards, 31st in points on offense. 32nd in passing yards, 32nd in passing TDs. If you takeaway the Minnesota game with Buffalo 38 rushes for 122 yards, 2 TDs (and Allen scored both those rushing TDs) this offense is outright abysmal.

Trading for a WR isn't going to help with the protections or get Shady McCoy move involved in the offense. Instead, can we trade McD for McVay? Or trade for an OC that will use the run game more? Or trade for an O line coach/run game coordinator who knows how to teach the entire offense to block the free blitzer or better yet the man they are supposed to block? Julio Jones wouldn't help this offense if the QB has no time to throw, and even then he would be triple covered.

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Couldn't hurt as shady is the best player on offense and he should be seeing at least 25 touches a game. Last week he averaged 4.8 yards per carry, and they gave him only 5 carries

Sure, if they give him more than 5 carries

4.8 YPC...which begs the question. WHY didn't they run it more? 5 rushes for McCoy is criminally stupid .

While all four are contributing factors I agree with you that the line is the worst followed by the receivers, then Daboll. What does it say that the Bills opening drive at GB they had a 2nd and 3, and got 2 yards by running? Then on 3rd and one they couldn't get that one yard running it. This set the tone for the rest of the game as Daboll stopped running the ball and put the entire offense on the rookie QBs shoulders by passing every play. McCoy who is the offenses best* player saw only 5 rushing attempts, 3 passes. McCoy stated that after the game he was supposed to be the focal point and because the team got behind in points they start passing every down. McCoy is also the teams best receiver by far and he saw 3 only passes. In my view, the run game coordinator/line coach stinks in Juan Castillo as does Daboll. We have seen all this before with so many bad Buffalo Bills teams in that they get behind in points so the offensive game plan goes out the window.

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I really feel badly that this talented kid needed to sit and learn and instead was thrown to the wolves on this years craptastic team. The OC refuses to run the ball or utilize the Bills best receiver in McCoy. The line coach is a joke and will help ruin this young man with lousy protections.

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The Bills made the playoffs last year, so what's wrong with the culture? I think I'll take Sean McVay's strategy over building a culture. The Bills need to fix the offensive run game before they ruin this rookie QB.

Baloney! LeSean McCoy is one of the very best RBs, receivers in the league and this moron of an OC won't use him. Instead he keeps calling pass players to guys who can't get open, can't catch. Stop making excuses for the OC & the run game coordinator/line coach as both suck big time. There is no cohesive protections schemes to allow Allen to do his job and so he gets sacked 7x. That's on the QB and the coaches too. Just last year under Dennison the Bills run game was #4 in rush attempts, #6 in rushing yards. This year the Bills are 19th in rush attempts, 24th in rush yards. Yes the line stinks but they are not even attempting to run the ball very often with being 19th in attempts.

It really is mind numbing that Daboll is this lame. He keeps trying to run a deep, quick strike passing offense with a rookie QB that can't yet read coverages. Allen needs help in reading that defensive front from the experienced linemen, center. The entire offense should be coached up to take on a rusher if they see someone unblocked. Line, receivers, RB's. Then, there really is no reason as to why this offense isn't utilizing their best player on offense in McCoy. He is one of the very best RBs in the league and one of the very best receivers and without question he is the Bills best receiver too. Shady McCoy should be seeing 25-30 touches a game regardless of the score. If this Imbecile Daboll can't get this offense working by week 8 the Bears game he should be fired and replaced by senior OC and current receivers coach Terry Robiskie. If I were McD I wouldn't wait that long because Allen might be brain dead by then, two more games against the Titans, Texans and if this offense isn't giving LeSean McCoy 25 touches per then FIRE the Daboob!

From my perspective it was Doug Whaley and his scouts doing the scouting for that years draft as Beane was hired later on. Think about that for a min and would you trust Whaley and his scouts opinion on any QB after he thought EJ was the man. In all probability nobody in Buffalo was looking at a QB in that draft class. Not to mention that this team doesn't have Andy Reid calling plays, the Chiefs WRs, RBs or offensive line. Had McD drafted Mahomes last year he probably would have started him against the Chargers and he would have been ruined by now.

Yes, it's clear that Allen missed that read with the free Blitzer on the LoS. He also missed his outlet receiver that didn't block that Blitzer but had turned around as an outlet and alas he never did look left for some reason. Also, if the receiver decides to pick up that free Blitzer and it's not a fast sack. Although, isn't the center supposed to help with those calls too. If not just the center when a linemen sees a potential threat coming unblocked they used to yell "fire" "fire" or something to get the QBs attention to that free Blitzer on the line. To me this is just bad coaching all around QB, Line, WRs. It's just a hot mess of an offense.

It's true he had a bad O line and bad WRs at Wyoming and mostly had to carry the team all on his own. To an 8-5 record and a bowl game win. He simply can't carry an NFL offense all on his own and he shouldn't have to. The current Buffalo Bills offensive line players are a bunch of clowns in blocking the wrong man, whiffing on blocks. It really is a clusterfluck of comedy that these supposed pros don't have a clue who to block half the time. What does it tell you that the Bills needed 3 yards on 2nd and 3 with 7 offensive players on the line in the game and got two yards! Then on 3rd and one with the same 7 players couldn't get one yard. Shady got 7 yards on first down and the offense was so bad they couldn't get 3 yards in 2x attempts. This wasn't a goal line stand as it was at the Bills own 29 yard line. So now that the run game doesn't work it all goes on the rookie QBs shoulders. Of course he is going to struggle attempting to carry the entire offense. Allen isn't the issue as it's the bad play calling, the lousy offensive line, the terrible WR corps. This OC, run game coordinator need to find a way to make the run game work to take pressure off that rookie QB. FYI, against the Vikings the Bills had 38 carries for 128 yards rushing. ToP 35:45 to 24:15 all due to a run game that worked. It also helped that the Bills got the lead at the start of the game and didn't need to play from behind.

I wasn't attempting to prove the point of this thread. Losing Dareus for that game wasn't the cause for the loss as no Raider RB had 100 yard rushing and Carr went 17 of 34 for 214, 2 TDs. The defense didn't lose that game as in my view the Bills offense lost it. What I was attempting to convey was that the Bills offensive line and run game was so bad that they only got 13 rush yards on 13 carries. This was against a 3-12 Raiders team that was 32nd on defense in points allowed. This was with Fred Jackson, CJ Spiller, Robert Woods, Sammy Watkins. I can recall both Spiller and Jackson getting tackled in the backfield as soon as they received the hand off. Hence the 13 rushes for 13 yards. Which is ridiculously bad. The Bills drives that day went TD, INT, PUNT, PUNT, PUNT, PUNT, PUNT, FG, PUNT, PUNT, TD, PUNT, INT, TD. It was all Kyle Orton on offense for Buffalo. Had the Bills any semblance of a run game that day the defense wouldn't have been on the field as much and should have easily beaten that 2-12 Raiders team. The bigger point here is that the Bills had a #4 overall defense and no playoffs. So McD wants to build a top defense while overlooking the supporting cast for his rookie QB, and because of that fact the rookie QB might not even survive this season.

Right now the KC Chiefs have one of the best young QBs in the league and they built an offense around him. Solid offensive line, many offensive weapons WR, TE, RB. The Chiefs are #1 in scoring on offense and #28 in yards allowed on defense. They are also 4-0 with 14 passing TDs. They spent 16 mill per on a WR they don't even use. Looking at that Green Bay game with 7 sacks on Allen, 18 for the season this kid might not survive this year to become a Mahomes.

This is where the current trend is going in the NFL in terms of head coaches and they are kicking some arse. McVay is a genius! Also forgot to mention that new offensive minded HC in SF. And the NY Giants went that way too. So did Indy with Frank Reich. In 2014 We all saw that the #4 overall defense won't win much if you don't have an offense that moves the ball and can score. The game that killed Buffalo that year was at Oakland where they lost by 2 points and the offensive line really let the Bills down with 13 rushing attempts for 13 yards. This was against the 30th ranked Raiders defense too. Bottom line is a great defense doesn't always get you into the playoffs. While I really like McD I think he screwed himself by not drafting some quality O linemen and WRs. It wouldn't shock me to see these new owners look for a better mentor for their rookie QB.