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My stance has softened a bit too. Although... The thing is, this team looks like two different animals if they get behind in points vs getting a lead in a game. Against the Vikings, Titans, Jets and Jags the bills got the lead, held on and won those games. The other games Ravens, Chargers, Packers, Texans, Colts, Patriots, Bears the got behind in points from the start and never caught up while losing those games. Even against the Patriots in which they held a 3 point lead for 3 quarters and the Bills just couldn't get anything going offensively. I read here that the players on offense are historically bad, and yet when they get the lead those offensive players look pretty good at times. Bills fans saying its the QB until Barkley comes in and lights up a pretty good Jets defense. Bills fans saying its the offensive line and yet when they get the lead the sacks go down and the run game does better. Bills fans saying the receiver corps is bad and yet they looked pretty good with Barkley throwing to them. This last game Josh Allen made some big plays because of his talent, that throw to Foster just before he is engulfed by three Jag defenders. That 14 yard TD run by Allen and he would have had over 100 yards rushing if he didn't kneel it down at the end of the game for -2 yards. The play calling in that Jags game looked good for the first quarter and fell off after that until the Allen run in the 4th. That was against the #5 defense so I'm not gonna complain too much. I'd just like to see more of that 1st touchdown series all game long and not just two or three series a game. The Bills did punt 7 times in that game. I also want to see this team win a game when they get behind in points and then not go into a panic passing mode to catch up. Run the normal game plan, move the chains and run the ball...score some points.

I agree to a point as that first quarter was downright amazing with that 75 yard drive and a perfect run to the end zone to cap it off. The run blocking by the WRs on that TD run was phenomenal as both Zay Jones and Logan Thomas put their guys on the ground and McKenzie went in untouched. It started with a screen pass to McCoy for 7 yards and then a run by McCoy again for a 1st down. Then a 32 yard pass to KB along with a PF face mask by Ramsey on KB. Then a 1st down pass to Croom for 11 yards. That quick handoff to McKenzie in motion was brilliant and caught that Jags defense so unaware. The next series with that Allen first down run and then that 75 yard bomb to Foster... this against an elite Jags secondary and a top 5 defensive unit. We didn't see many big plays by the Bills offense after that first quarter save for Allen's 14 yard TD run in the 4th. Again, this was against a very, very good Jags defense and gotta love how Allen played in this game. Hopefully we see more of that type of first quarter offensive play in the next five games.

Sounds like a snip from the Goonies movie. Gotta love it when they win and Allen looks like the franchise guy is here.

Just think, good thing the Bills kept Sammy Watkins and paid him those big dollars....oh wait! Watkins, 1 catch for 4 yards in the highest scoring game of the season 54-51.

It really is crazytown that the Packers only have one more win then the Buffalo Bills...they have Aaron Rodgers at QB! 17 TDs, 1 INT They lost to Oakland...how? They lost to the Lions. They beat Chicago... Their defense is not that bad, their offense is top ten. Top 6 QB in passing. 27th in rushing attempts and yet #1 in yards per attempt. The thing I've noticed in attempting comebacks at the end of the game Rodgers seems to get sacked a lot. 7 players on IR and four are out. I would put it on his O line and lack of running the ball more often.

Talk about Nutty? Where do you get off in thinking that you know what these owners are thinking? If anyone is fantasizing here it's you! The only poster speaking in code is you...which is code for being such a defender of the coaches that you delude yourself into thinking that you know what others are thinking. Both McD and Beane have stated that this wasn't supposed to be a rebuild year! I have links for this and you keep stating the opposite and yet are presupposing at this because the season went south. You have no actual facts and just suppose that is what was supposed to happen because of the 3-7 season. When the Buffalo Bills got the lead over the Jets this last game you didn't see McD pull any players or sit anyone. Because that is what would have happened if they actually wanted to tank! They got the lead and worked it just like they would have done in each and every game if they could have! They have wanted to win each and every game all season and it went south due to their incompetence. I can tell you this. If Beane and McD knew then (2018 draft)what they know now, they would have altered their draft plans and drafted a center to replace Woods in the 2018 NFL draft. They might have found the money to bring in a quality replacement for Incognito and they sure as hell would have brought in a veteran QB from day one if they had the insight to know how bad Peterman would be. Like I said, coaching incompetence. Look at all the mistakes with the different WRs they keep brining in, signing and then letting go. I honestly like McD and think he is a good HC to a point. He simply doesn't know jack about the offensive side of the ball and it looks like Beane might have some issues too. I highly doubt any other NFL experienced quality GM/HC would have gone into this season the way this GM/HC went into the season with those scrubs on the offensive line, no veteran QB. Especially knowing that they are protecting a very inexperienced QB and a rookie QB. This is what happens when you have a rookie GM and 2nd year HC still learning their jobs. Lastly, when the team gets blownout in half their games like this team did this season...the defense doesn't look so excellent to my eyes. P.S. My take on the Pegula's is that they really want a winning NFL team in Buffalo and this 3-7 season with all these blowout losses could be having a very disparaging effect. The next six games could be very important in determining what happens at the end of the season for this regime. My opinion! I already know yours... deluded nutty code talker.

Exactly! Lies, damned lies and statistics. Fans love to roll around in the stats like they mean everything. My eyes tell me a different story. Game one, blowout loss 3-47 and that Bills defense started so slowly that mediocre Ravens offense scored 3 rushing TDs, 3 passing TDs. Bills QBs sacked 6 times. Game two, 20-31 loss to the Chargers and it really wasn't that close as the Bolts went up 28-6 at the half. Bills QBs sacked 5 times. Game three, 27-6 reverse blowout win because the Bills got the lead and capitalized on it all game Bills up 27-0 at the half. Vikes QBs sacked 4 times. Game four, 22-0 blowout by the Pack. They get the lead and the Bills can't run(16 rushes for 58 yards)Can't throw and Bills QBs sacked 7 times. Game five, 13-12 win over Tenn as the Bills get the lead and hold it all game rushing 43 times for 144 yards, 1 TD. Game six, 13-20 loss. The Bills defense started slowly again. Still, If Allen doesn't get injured this might be a win. Peterman 2 picks. Bills sacked Houston QB 7 times! Game seven, 37-5 blowout loss to the 2-5 Colts. Bills D stunk against the run allowing 37 rushes for 220 yards, allowed Luck to have his way with 4 TD passes. 0 sacks on Luck Game eight, 25-6 loss as the Bills defense kept it close for 3 QTRs. Bills went pass happy, only rushing for 19 times, 46 yards. Game nine, 41-9 blowout loss to the Bears. Bills D didn't allow a score in the first QTR. Fumble, Then Peterman throwing 3 picks. Bills 4 turnovers/ Game ten, Bills win 41-10 Blowout the Jets. Bills pounding the rock 46 times for 212 yards, 2 TDs. Bills get the lead and capitalized on it. When the Bills lose they get behind in points and go pass happy while forgetting about the run game and more importantly the best player on offense in Shady McCoy. The defense is on the field all game and have been blown out in 5 of 10 games. Sorry, my eyes tell me that good defenses don't allow such disparaging blowouts so many times in a season When the Bills win they sorta look like the 2001-2010 Peyton Manning Colts when they would get an early lead and then let loose their pass rush. This also allows the Bills run game to work because the Bills OC actually starts running the ball more. When it rains it pours and when the Bills get the lead in games so much is different. The defense in the wins look really great and conversely in losses they look really bad at times. This years Bills defense might actually be a top 5 defense if they focused on running the ball even when they get behind in points. It would also help those young inexperienced QBs and the older, still learning the playbook QBs. The Bills OC simplified the offense, ran the ball and dominated a pretty good Jets defense.

It's not overblown. EJ stated he learned more from watching Kyle Orton then he did from the Bills OC, QB coach. Watching him prepare for a game, film study and what to watch for in pre snap reads, reading that defense and then talking to him after each series. Understanding what's happening on each play. Not having a veteran QB on the roster with a rookie QB and a second year QB who had only two game starts is basically unheard of in the NFL. These young, inexperienced QB s needed help in so many areas and that Veteran QB like Derek Anderson helps more then most understand. He was brought into Buffalo knowing he wasn't going to start and he didn't want to. His sole job was to help mentor the young QBs and he was okay with that. Anderson was in a similar role at Carolina and help mentor Cam Newton greatly, so this FO trusted him.

Hopefully this rookie GM now understands the importance of building a top offensive line and using his own judgement on player talent. Perhaps he did realize that the line wasn't good enough and he couldn't find anyone better then what he already had on the roster. Although, I find that argument lacking when you see that Eric Wood retired in Jan, and Incognito was gone by April. Replacing that center and left guard should have been a higher priority and all we fans can do is hope he upgrades those positions and others on that line properly this offseason. Protecting that young, inexperienced QB should be the number one goal of this regime going forward.

How did this thread digress into a thread about Beane? The man did wonders getting rid of a bunch of over priced players that were killing the cap. Sammy Watkins is still making me laugh about how teams look at his potential. Buffalo did that with no elite QB to even throw to him and the guy was almost always injured in one way or another. Two firsts and a fourth for a decoy. Guess what, big surprise he is currently injured. Beane did a masterful job in obtaining that #7 overall pick for Josh Allen when the majority of the board wanted the Bills to give up the farm, their two firsts in 2018 and a 2019 first to move up to the #2 spot to draft Josh Rosen. Beane isn't going anywhere! OTOH, with McD a lot will depend on how the offense performs over the next six games regardless of the starting QB. Starting Josh Allen will give them an excuse for losing and it shouldn't! In the 7 loses the Bills haven't had a run game mostly because when this team gets behind in points the game plan goes pass happy no matter who the QB is behind center. In the 3 wins this year the Bills have had a dominate run game and got the ball to McCoy/the RBs. In the 7 losses they didn't run the ball well and went pass happy instead. This was most alarming with Allen and Peterman starting because they are so inexperienced they need a run game to support them. In those 7 losses some Bills fans stated that the offensive players were "historically bad" and yet against the Jets these same players looked brilliant. The line blocked well and gave Barkley time to throw, McCoy lanes to run. The receivers besides KB caught and fought for the ball and looked brilliant. Both Zay Jones and Robert Foster had almost 200 yards receiving. So, it isn't the players after all. It was the OC asking the inexperienced QBs to do things they couldn't do in forcing them to carry the entire offense. We will see if things change for the next six games.

Yep, #1 in yards allowed, #19 in points allowed. Just think, imagine how good this years defense would look if they had a run game/offense in those 7 loses...and they didn't at all. Five of those Bills loses were blowouts is the big reason why the points allowed is so crazy bad. With 6 games to go will the Bills finally find an offense in each of those games?

The bigger problem with the Patriots team right now is their 28th ranked defense. Yes, Mike Vrable's Titans made Brady look ordinary but he knows that Patriots playbook inside out. The same thing happened against the 3-6 Lions with ex Patriots DC Matt Patricia as the Lions HC. The Lions beat NE 26 to 10. Still, The Patriots are 7-3 and two of those losses came from an ex Patriot player, coach. The remaining NE Patriots schedule is Jets, Vikings, Dolphins, Steelers, Bills, Jets and should finish the season 12-4 That is "IF" they lose to the Steelers. Let's also not forget that Peyton Manning won a SB with a bad arm. The Patriots have the second easiest remaining schedule. What a lot of fans just don't get is that Patriots offense is a different animal without Gronk and when he is fully healthy he/that NE offense is basically unstoppable.

While quality linemen are important it's also important to have a top quality line coach who is HoF O linemen Mike Munchak since 2014. A 9 time probowl LG for the Oilers/Titans. To answer someone's question. RT Marcus Gilbert 2nd round pick. RG David DeCastro 1st round pick C Maurkice Pouncey 1st round pick LG Ramon Foster undrafted free agent Rated as the 23rd best OT in 2009 and the Steelers moved him to OG. 6'5'' 328 also known as "The Big Ragu" LT Alejandro Villanueva undrafted free agent to the Bengals as a TE in 2010. He did three tours of duty in Afghanistan as an Army captain / Ranger. After he didn't make the Bengals as a TE he went back into the military for 2 years and was later signed by the Eagles to play DE, he was waived by the Eagles and signed to the Steelers practice squad. While at DE for Philly he weighed 250lbs and gained weight up to 328 to play OT for Pittsburgh. He made the pro bowl in 2017

Daboll called a masterful game against the Jets and the Bills came out throwing a deep bomb which set the stage for the day. Now, If they can do that in every game then the OP might stand a chance of being right and the Bills win each game. However, this OC must find a way to run the ball even when the team gets behind in points which is something he hasn't done in 7 games.

It really is very simple to figure out the 2018 Buffalo Bills as they are two animals. One animal, if given the lead and they hold it becomes a completely dominate team on offense and defense. In their three wins they rushed for way more yards then they threw the ball. WIN Vikings, 38 rushes for 128 yards, 2 TDs VS 15 of 22 yards passing for 156 yards, 1 TD. WIN Tenn, 43 rushes for 144 yards, 1 TD. VS 10 of 20 yards passing for 82 yards, 0 TDs, 1 INT. WIN NY Jets, 46 rushes for 212 yards, 2 TDs VS 16 of 26 for 247 yards passing, 2 TDs. Against the Jets, their defense had no tape on Barkley because he hasn't played in an NFL since 2016. The Bills came out blasting with a 47 yard bomb to Foster and followed it up with a 28 yard TD run by Shady McCoy. This set the stage for the game because now the Jets defense was forced to respect the Bills deep passing game and they couldn't stack against the run for fear of getting beat deep again. Which they did later in the game on a third and long for 43 yards to Foster again. OTOH, The other animal happens when the Bills don't have the lead and are down by as little as 3 points in which they were to the NE Patriots in the 1st quarter, down by 3 pts in the 2nd quarter, down by 3 points in the 3rd quarter and the game plan looked completely different as the Bills forget about running the ball and go pass happy with 19 rushes VS 41 passes. I picked the Patriots game just to show that when the team doesn't have the lead by any amount of points the game plan is different. In each loss with no run game the Bills QB is under greater duress as is the O line. The sacks go up. The Penalties go up. This scenario has happened in each and every loss and the Bills are currently 3-7 so in 7 losing games the offensive game plan is throw, throw, throw and this is particularly damning considering the team went into the start of the season with Peterman, Allen which are two very inexperienced QBs who can't read a pre snap defense or set protections. The only game that the Bills played somewhat smart was against was the Texans and even then they didn't run McCoy enough and Allen got hurt...Peterman came in and threw 2 INTs and a pick six.

This is a second year in the NFL HC and a rookie GM. They are going to make a lot of mistakes during their learning curve to build a playoff team. Still, this team is 3-7 and not going anywhere this year. That said, everything will depend on what they do next offseason after they learned what they learned this year about the offensive line, the offensive coaching staff, the receiver corps. Building a top quality line to protect that #7 overall pick at QB and build a power run game to help support him. I'm hoping the offensive coaching staff changes as this staff only knows how to call the right players when the team has the lead. 3 out of 7 so far! Provided of course that the owners keep the status quo.

He played against a 3-6 Jets team that has basically given up on the season. Only the Raiders are worse at this point. Also, the Jets had no tape on Barkley as he hasn't played in the NFL since 2016 so their defense didn't know what to expect. On another note it seems that for Buffalo, when it rains it pours! Meaning that when the Bills get the lead they get the run game/pass game working well and it's a win. So far that has only happened 3 times this year vs the 7 losses which were mostly blowouts. Against the Patriots who held a 3 point lead in each of the first three quarters it was a completely different story as the offense couldn't do much except in garbage time.

I now have a much lower opinion of him as he is something that exited a dogs posterior and now sits in a steaming pile on the ground. To think that this player is in a contract year...

Even knowing that this was probably as good as it gets for Barkley I'd still rather him start the rest of the season over Allen. The Jags still have a top defense it's just this year they are 30th in the takeaway category -11. Whereas Cleveland is #1 in that stat with +11. What is sorta crazy is that when the Bills win they have an effective run game. Against the Jets 46 rushing attempts, a 4.6 YPC average. Only 4 penalties for 43 yards. The thing is this team is 3-7 and gets blown out in most losses with no run game and the QB under constant duress, the line can't block and nobody can catch in those losses. I just don't trust this O line to protect Allen and he still needs time to develop.

Peterman will make the practice squad as McD can't seem to let him go...

it was inevitable...

Watching Barkley run this offense he should get the start against the Jags and let Allen sit.

Zay Jones!!!!

Wow, ball underthrown and Foster playing like he wants the job!

Ruh Ro... Still feeling bad for the Jets?