SoMAn
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WR Chris Olave or Trent McDuffie, CB
Although I believe either of those players are real possibilities to be picked by Buffalo, I predict the Bills trade out of the first round.
With all the money they've already allocated to FAs, I wouldn't be surprised for the Bills to find a trade partner who will take # 25 in exchange for their 2nd round and additional picks - maybe a 3rd or 4th, and/or picks in 2023.
Wouldn't mind seeing them have 2 picks in both second and third rounds. Apart from the QB position, there's a lot of depth at other need positions. Depending on the slot of the trade partner, and without hesitation, I'd trade # 25 for an additional 2nd and 3rd .
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Dependable. Rarely dropped passes thrown to him. He was the go-to guy over the middle for first downs.
I'll take that skill over that of the speedster with poor concentration who frequently drops passes in clutch situations.
Still good, but not quite the same after the haircut. 😏
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10 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:
For some of the head scratching missteps Beane has taken on draft days thank God he got this one right when he traded up for Josh.
...which was facilitated by Browns owner Jimmy Haslam who opted for Baker when he went against the wishes of all his personnel people who wanted Josh as the #1 pick. Thank you Jimmy!
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Wish him well. Turnover is just part of every NFL team history.
Someone posted highlights from the Viking game in Josh's rookie year, and it's amazing to see what looked like a completely different team. It kind of is!
It hardly seems like it was not long ago when Allen was drafted, yet the team roster barely resembles what it was then.
By my count, there are only about 14 players from that team on the current roster. Taiwan and left and come back. Wallace may well be gone before the 2022 kickoff.
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19 hours ago, BillnutinHouston said:
On a nice pulled pork or chicken sandwich. Yum!
My creamy cole slaw has mayo, celery seeds, dry mustard, sugar, and apple cider vinegar. Mom made it when I was a kid. It's also great on hamburgers. Jordan Hicks? Never heard of him.
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I was finally able to re-watch the final couple of minutes of the KC/Buff divisional game.
I admit I don't know what the defensive schemes were during those final plays against KC, but one thing was obvious - the TD pass to Hill was right down the middle. Isn't that the general area that the talented long-armed pass-defending named Edmunds should be covering?
Then, in overtime, the killer. Another KC pass over the middle for enough yards to get into field goal range and win the game.
Again, without direct knowledge of who should be doing what, one thing is clear - the Bills were exploited on both critical plays in the middle of the field. Why wasn't the pro-bowl middle linebacker somewhere in the area, either to defend the pass or make the tackle? On both plays he was nowhere to be seen.
I don't know if it actually was Edmunds, but it's clear somebody blew an assignment.
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I’d like to see the combined stats of all playoff and prime time games he’s played in. He’s at his best under the spotlight on a big stage.
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On 3/3/2022 at 2:41 AM, Thurman#1 said:
The 1/11th thing is your opinion. Not the Bills. If he was only 1/11th, they wouldn't have made him captain. They wouldn't be paying him what they are paying him this year, which is considerably more than his 1/11th of what the defense costs.
Beane and McDermott have made it clear that MLB is a key position in this scheme. They've been very willing to pay two LBs big money, right back to Carolina. It's not a 1/11th position in their defense. That's why they've used a 9th and a 16th pick on it in McDermott's two stops. You simply don't do that on a position which in your defense is only supposed to supply only 1/11th of defensive value.
Your argument that it's not an impact position in this defense simply doesn't make sense. You say Kuechly is a unicorn. Well, yeah, but they spent a 1st round pick, a #9 to bring in that unicorn. Then they spent a #16 again on the same position again in Buffalo. You do ... not ... do ... that for an off-ball linebacker if the position is not an impact position in your defense. You just don't.
They had a 1/11th guy at MLB in McDermott's 1st year here, in Preston Brown. A classic 1/11th guy. And they immediately spent a 16th on Tremaine.
Um, captain? Three years running?
You asked, and that is the answer. He is a leader, whether he's one you react to or not.
I already gave the thumbs up to another responder who pointed out his role as captain. That's all I asked for was evidence. That may be it. On the other hand, he may have been thrust into that role by the hierarchy.
One thing for sure is that he's a polarizing figure for fans of the team. These debates are proof.
I've watched a lot of NFL football and seen a lot of defenders through past decades, and compared to ones I've viewed in that period, watching Edmund's play, I see a guy who appears tentative and is easily pushed around. Just my opinion.
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3 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:
agree. Edmunds is, as Nolan points out in the podcast "Fine" in his role, but he is not essential. so don't pick up his 5th year option (saves $10m+ cap space at least), offer him Milano $$, play it out and be ready to plug Dodson or a FA in there if Edmunds walks. His position is not designed to be the centerpiece of this particular defensive scheme anyway. Edmunds agent will stump for Leonard $$, but LBs in the Bills defensive scheme just play their part of the field; not asked to dominate so they get 1/11th type $$; which means guys like Edmunds and Wallace probably get overpaid by some other team to play a dominator role they probably cannot handle.
His role has been explained as not being the seek and destroy middle linebacker as much as it is as a pass defender who can mess up passing lanes with his long wingspan. I want to believe that Edmunds is as valuable as some seem to think.
I've re-watched entire games focusing on his play when the Bills' defense is on the field. I don't see any great pass defender, but I do see a liability against the run. I see a guy running around aimlessly, misjudging where the ball is going, getting pushed around, and frequently standing around the ball carrier when someone else made the tackle. Tell me all day about his pro bowls and what a great defender he is. For me, he doesn't pass the eye test.
His real NFL worth can be measured by what his trade value is. He was pick # 17 in the first round in 2018. At 23 years old and with 4 years experience, has his value gone up or down? There's your answer.
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7 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:
Ill listen, I always do. However, I know what to expect from Nolan. He is a big Edmunds guy. Marino is more level headed. The truth about Edmunds is he is a average middle linebacker that really knows the system.
So the Bills have a hard choice, pay a guy a lot of money who knows your system very well, is a team leader, who has average to above average play at times but is also a complete liability at others. The Chiefs targeted him big time in yhis years playoffs. Personally Id try and trade him for a piece on offense.
On Star, the team is better when he plays. Problem is hes missed the better part of the last two seasons and 18 games of that were either his choice or personal reasons. Its time to move on.
What evidence is there that he's a team leader?
He's been tasked with relaying the defensive signals, which is more a product of his position in the middle of the defense than it is about his actual leadership. I don't personally know Edmunds, but I've never gotten the sense that he's a leader. When you watch Josh and see the interaction with his teammates, his body language and the reaction he gets screams 'leader'. When Kyle Williams was on the team, you had no doubt he was a leader on defense.
Some people are born leaders. Edmunds ain't one of them IMO.
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33 minutes ago, cwater10 said:
You've stated the risk. What was the reward for sounding overly negative?
Humor. Nothing more.
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16 hours ago, eball said:
Well aren't you a breath of fresh air.
BTW - great avatar Eball!
At the risk of sounding overly negative, my comment about red helmets and the never-ending fawning by over 90s Bills and 70s Sabres by AARP-member Buffalonians
wasn't meant to disparage. It was an observation. Clinging to the past is just such a Buffalo thing. It's quaint, though a little weird.
It's nice to reflect occasionally, but I prefer to leave the past in the past.
In a scene from The Sopranos, the old gang was in Florida reminiscing about past exploits. Bored with it all, Tony Soprano said, " 'remember when' is the lowest form of conversation". Agree.
Whenever I'd go back for a visit Buffalo, years after I moved south, I could walk into the same gin mill or pizzeria and see the same people with the same winter jackets sitting on the same bar stool having the same conversations. It was like groundhog day. A WNY time warp. Half of the girls I'd see in public would still have their 70's-style wing-front bangs, 80's mullets, or combination of the two. Their mothers kept local 'beauty parlors' busy maintaining their Alice-from-the-Brady Bunch hairstyle they'd sported since 1959. Dad still wore his 3 piece suit from Riverside Men's Shop for his sales associate position. Their never married brother still has his Buffalo Evening News cartoon poster of Bob McAdoo hanging in the basement, stapled to a faux-wood paneled wall, just behind the washer and dryer.
Change isn't easily embraced. Just say the word 'dome' if you need proof.
ps - don't take this seriously
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1 hour ago, msw2112 said:
I'm going to talk out of both sides of my mouth here and be a total hypocrite, but here goes:
1. Generally speaking, I don't think there should be public funding for professional sports stadia. They are used by private entites to generate private revenue. If the state/county/city own the facility and rent it back to the team, and it can be shown that the rent and/or stadium taxes results in the state/county/city breaking even or making a profit, then I'm OK with it. That said, and I am not an economist, but from what I have read, these situations are always money-losers for the public entities.
2. Specifically as a BILLS FAN, I support public funding. If we are talking a true capitalist/free-market concept, the Pegulas could move the Bills to bunch of other markets (Austin, San Antonio, Portland (OR), Toronto, maybe even St. Louis) and make more money than they would in Buffalo. In order for a small market to compete with larger markets and get or retain a team, the community may need to step up and help out. Given the positive psychological impact of having major league sports in a market such as Buffalo, I believe it's worth it to have the taxpayers contribute. I realize that the Pegulas will make money either way, as the NFL TV contract is the primary source of revenue, but there's no question they could make more money (A LOT MORE) in a larger market. In larger markets, teams can have more skyboxes and fancy bars & restaurants in the stadium, charge more for tickets, charge more for concessions and parking, get more corporate sponsorships at higher rates, etc. I have been to NFL games in Dallas and LA, where it costs $100 or more more to park your car. Would that fly in Buffalo?
I'm with you on both.
I don't know how the economic impact of the Bills in an area like WNY can be calculated. Few NFL cities have a culture that is as symbiotic as the Bills and Buffalo.
So much of Buffalo's identity is tied to the Buffalo Bills. The impact is certainly greater than the immediate jobs connected directly to the team and local OP businesses.
I'm guessing the domino effect could be a perception in the business world that Buffalo is a second-rate city and isn't a desirable locale for some Fortune 500-level company considering WNY as a home base. Just as the Buffalo area is experiencing renewed growth, it could come to a screeching halt if the Bills left. Could that be a precursor to the Sabres exodus and the end of big league sports in the area?
How do you measure the unique nature of the Bills' and WNY and the impact economically?
I'm in Atlanta. If the Falcons were moved, there would be many disappointed loyalists, but compared to the heartache hundreds of thousands of Buffalo residents would experience, a Falcon team relocation would be a collective shoulder shrug in Georgia. They'd get over it just as quickly as they did when the NHL's Flames and Thrashers left town.
Whatever happens, a new stadium has to happen for the Bills to remain in Buffalo. How about selling shares for ownership of a facility?
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It would be interesting to break it down graphically to show the differences from the start of the season through the last quarter and into the playoffs. In those final games they seemed to find the right combinations that featured Bates, Brown, and occasionally Tommy Doyle as an extra blocker on running plays.
Mitch Morse can get blown up sometimes on pass plays, but he showed a lot of talent pulling with the guards on run plays.
I think Spencer Brown is going to be a monster as his O-line skills develop. He's raw but already a force.
Cody Ford professed to come into the season with a whole new attitude. Unfortunately, it yielded the same results. He's as good as gone.
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On 2/21/2022 at 11:39 AM, Greg S said:
I personally like the white helmet best but it looks like in 2022 teams can wear a 2nd helmet.
(18) uSTADIUM on Twitter: "Throw-BACK in 2022. The second-helmet rule will start this season and teams can now rock an extra helmet, which means we will see the return of the #Buccaneers Creamsicles, Pat the #Patriots and many more. Comment a throwback uniform you hope to see in 2022. https://t.co/CjVTZO9LMg" / Twitter
During 90s throwback home game have Scott Norwood be Legend of the Game leading the charge. 🙄
I’m not a big fan of the never-ending nostalgic fawning over the 90s Bills and the 70s Sabres. It was great at the time, but I’m more than ready to embrace success of the current team without reference or comparisons to Kelly, Thurman, Bruce, etc. It’s ancient history.
Don’t care much about reunions either.
live for today-
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22 minutes ago, DD4Bills said:
1. You've been a fan since - 1970 when I moved to the Buffalo area as a young 6 year old
2. Your first Bills memory - First Bills game in person. 1972 vs the 49ers at the Rockpile. I recall having endzone seats, that it was raining, and that the Bills won
3. One of your favorite Bills memories - Two, actually. The Comeback Game - I actually missed the first half for some BS family lunch nonsense, was driving home listening on the radio when the Oilers scored on the pick 6 early in the 3rd quarter, then got home and turned on the TV to watch to comeback. Second was this season - first game seeing them live in Orchard Park since 1974 (the year before we moved away), and enjoyed it with my daughter.
4. Your favorite player of all time and your favorite player currently - All time - Andre Reed, Current - Josh Allen (ask me again in a few years and he may be my all time favorite too)
5. Some of you guys have some awesome forum names. What does your forum name say about you? - My forum name is an unimaginative bore, chosen in a hurry when creating my login. So I guess it says that I too am an unimaginative bore.
I was at that 49ers game- the final season at War Memorial. Our seats were 4 rows from the visiting team bench. I believe that was the first win ever for the Bills against a pre-merger NFL team.
John Brodie was their regular QB. Can’t recall if he hurt, but backup QB Steve Spurrier played most of the game for the 49ers.
Side note -all the games I went to at the rockpile were the same 4th row seats. Dad’s company season ticket seats. The visitors bench was almost at the wall where row 1 started. I remember being maybe 15 feet away from Namath, Lamonica, Unitas and many other HOFers. I thought those company tickets were given up when they moved to Orchard Park. It was a family business, long since gone. About 2 years ago, Got a call from cousin asking if me or my brother wanted to keep the seasons. What!? They’ve been in the family for about 60 years of seniority for pick of seats and nobody ever offered game tickets. I don’t live there anymore or I might have kept them.-
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17 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said:
Public service announcement which maybe a little over the top but i would hate to see anyone (well except for a few
) get taken advantage of. I hope in your answers you are not using those things as passwords on other accounts. As an IT guy I can say that people will use things like there favorite player and number or the like as passwords. People can search through chats like this and then try to hack accounts .. sounds silly probably to some of you .. but this stuff happens. If you do .. might be time for a change.
Good advice. I wouldn't be stupid enough to use screen name. All my passwords are Password123
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You've been a fan since
1. 1972 with OJ is when I was old enough to have an attention span that allowed me to understand the strategy and sit thought entire games. I'd been to games as early as 67 or 68, but the 'fan' part really kicked in when OJ was a superstar.
2. First memory: Babysitter trying to pull in Rochester station broadcast (when only away games were shown locally) on old B&W with rabbit ears. Around 64 or 65?
3. Too many.....First Monday Night Bills game 1973 when OJ went over 1000 yds in game 7, Monday night opener against Raiders, 1974 (much like Chiefs loss in recent playoffs with several lead changes in final couple of minutes, though Bills won that one). Beating Dolphins in 1980 opener. (Revised) Also need to include Dec7 1980 win against Rams, when fans would not leave and Smerlas, Haslett, Ritcher et al coming back out of tunnel for an encore, complete with chorus line kicks. Was at all those games. The elation from the Rams game carried into the next evening as I watched the beginning of the Monday night game between Dolphins and Pats before heading out to a local rock bar in Clarence where a new band called U2 was playing. The joy lingering from that fun weekend ended abruptly when Bono gave us the shocking news that John Lennon was just assassinated.
4. Favorite player of all time. Hard to say. Maybe Tasker or Talley. Favorite now? (revised) Probably 3-way tie between Tre White, Gabe, and Diggs.
5. Southern Man abbreviation.
Man, it's going to be a long off season
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32 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:
I am in Marietta right where it borders Roswell. Northeast Cobb.
Then you've probably been to Lucia's Italian restaurant at 92 and Sandy Plains and seen the Bills stuff on display. Not too far from there myself.
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9 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said:
That is because you and I are no longer the target market. Once you are outside the coveted 18-30 range, or whatever it is these days, your opinion no longer matters.
Exactly. The same thing that drives the halftime entertainment.
BTW - what part of ATL are you?
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3 hours ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:
“Is handing the ball to Perine on 3rd and 1 the worst Super Bowl play call in recent history?”
NOT handing it to Marshawn Lynch is!
And ONLY because it was the SB, does it not pale in comparison to 13 seconds of infamy- the WORST PLAYOFF HC effort in the history of the NFL!
***** YOU, McClapper!Josh should have been carrying the SB trophy through the airport to a greeting of 100k wild, drunk/ stoned Bills Fans!
If I were in Zac Taylor's shoes and it wasn't under 2 minutes, I would have challenged that spot.
The ball was clearly as far as the 'L' in the NFL shield at midfield. The officials spotted it about a yard further back. Even from the reverse angle, using the numbers painted on the field for reference, it easy to see how far the ball was before the runner was pushed back a yard.
It may still have been short, but only by inches if it were spotted where I believe it should have been.
Between that spot and some of the dubious calls that more or less gave the Rams a gimme touchdown, I'd be pissed if I was a Bengals fan.
Maybe it's a blessing that the Bills didn't play in the superbowl and have the same fate or we could've added that to the list of cursed moments in Buffalo sports history.
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Just great. Guess I’ll have to retire my Justin Bannon jersey and put the bobble head on EBay.
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Was Allen the top prospect on the Bills board?
in The Stadium Wall
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Is it general knowledge whether or not Josh was the 2018 QB prospect Beane and McD wanted from the get-go?
I can't remember if it's actually been revealed by anyone from inside the Bills organization.
It would be interesting to know how they had each of the 5 QBs rated. Obviously, they had Josh ahead of Rosen and Jackson.
Now Darnold and Rosen are both busts, and the overall # 1 Mayfield is about to get traded for nothing or get cut.
It's clear now that even throwing Jackson into the mix, Allen was the best choice.