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Buffalo to St. Louis this morning. Now in rout to Nashville and scheduled to return to St. Louis after about a 40 minute stop.

The plane just left Buffalo. Heading for St Louis and on to Nashville after a brief stop.

So is the stat cause or effect? Is it the cause of why TT never throws the ball (oh, excuse me, takes longer to throw the ball than any other QB)? Or is it the effect that you get when the QB predetermines his receiver then stares at him until he either comes open or doesn't? Lots of quarterbacks create separation for their receivers by looking off safeties and pump faking. TT . . . not so much. Is there a stat for that? So again? Is the stat a cause or an effect?

It was originally scheduled that way as most AFC West games are.

Yes it matters. But it's actually extremely complex because different states have different rules. Yes, if you live in Florida you get 8 home games tax free. If you live in other states you get taxed on all your income if you reside there, except in some cases where a player plays a game in New York or Massachusetts and also pays taxes there. Then states give a tax credit, or a rebate on the home state because the money was earned and taxed in a different state, but only up to a certain amount. And many states have many different rules. Then there's money made for endorsements which aren't necessarily made in the state they live in, which is why a lot of players may play in Buffalo but actually list their official address in some other state. The whole time Thurman Thomas played in Buffalo his address was listed as Sugarland, Tx. So basically there's going to be a myriad of tax ramifications that will take a professional to handle no matter where they live. A concern? Sure. But probably not as much as was mentioned earlier about keeping the wife happy, etc. And yeah, what's the state tax on a million? $65,000 or something? So go to a good team and your first playoff game takes care of whatever extra taxes there may be. For NFLers, they should just be glad they aren't NBAs or MLBs where they have to play dozens of games in different states and countries. Just Google the Jock Tax and see just how ridiculously complex it gets.

Oh Hell I'll go.

Then Tennessee is the 5th seed and Buffalo is the 6th.

In fact it's Riveron every time it happens. http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2017/12/18/alberto-riveron-nfl-senior-vice-president-of-officiating-patriots-calls-jesse-james/stories/201712180138

Right or wrong, for better or worse, this is how it's supposed to happen now. Although it makes the last sentence into a bad joke. https://operations.nfl.com/updates/the-officials/replay-process-updated-for-2017-nfl-season/ REPLAY PROCESS UPDATED FOR 2017 NFL SEASON AUGUST 11, 2017 Senior officiating staff in Art McNally GameDay Central (AMGC) will continue to consult with the Referee on all instant replay decisions, but starting in the 2017 season, all final instant replay decisions will be made by designated senior officiating staff in AMGC instead of the Referee. Additionally, Referees will now review instant replay video on Instant Replay Tablets. All other aspects of the review process will remain the same. When a replay review is initiated, Senior Vice President of Officiating Alberto Riveron, or a designated senior member of the league’s officiating staff, will examine the play in AMGC in New York. Two replay field technicians — stationed at each 20-yard line on the sideline — will walk onto the field with hard-wired Instant Replay Tablets. The nearest technician will give the Referee a headset, so the Referee can communicate with designated senior officiating staff in AMGC. The technician will hold the Instant Replay Tablet, allowing the Referee to review replay videos. After the review, Alberto Riveron or another designated senior member the officiating staff, will make the final decision on the review and the Referee will announce the decision in the stadium. Each replay field technician will manage two Instant Replay Tablets. Two additional Instant Replay Tablets will be available as backups. The hood replay station will remain on NFL sidelines in 2017 and may be used during severe weather or other extenuating circumstances. The revised process is part of the NFL’s ongoing efforts to increase efficiency and consistency in the instant replay review process.

You're right, you're wrong. Tennessee gets in.

Titans.

Well it's not that simple. Actually, yes it is that simple. There are 2 wild card spots that are basically going to go to either the Bills, Titans, Ravens or the Chargers. We have to finish in front of all but one of them. It's probably mathematically possible the Raiders could get in but highly unlikely as long as we hold up our end and get to 9-7. It's also possible but very unlikely Tennessee could win 2 more while Jax loses 2 more. That would result in Tennessee taking that division and Jax getting the 5th seed. In that case we would have to finish ahead of everybody else. Do the Chargers jump ahead of us if they win and we lose? Yeah, sort of. They beat us in a 2 way tie. But in a 3 way tie they most likely, or maybe, won't beat us because the head to head won't factor in. If the 3 way tie is with us, the Chargers and Titans, we will win as long as the Titans loss is to the Jags (assuming we lose to the Pats* and beat Miami). If the 3 way is with us, the Chargers and Baltimore we will most likely come out on top (again assuming the same Pats*-Miami scenario) via strength of victory. If we have a 4 way tie at 9-7 with the Chargers, Titans and Ravens we will possibly take the 5th seed as long as the Titans loss is to the Jags.

No. Tenn is 5th we are 6th.

How does Tennessee at 9-7 push 10-6 Baltimore to the 6th seed?

The best thing to come out of the Talkin' Proud song was the T shirts. Remember the ones with the mating buffloes where all you could see was "kin' Proud?" And then there was the drunk T shirts that said, "We're Walkin' Plowed." You don't get that from the Shout song. Great times.

Yes thank you I already admitted in an earlier post that I had my head up my butt. For some reason when I was responding I was thinking if KC won we would be facing them in the tiebreaker. I know better just had a brain fart.

It's also exactly what the Jets did when we flopped against them. Tony Romo pointed it out several times. They made sure the ends kept him in, brought the pressure up the middle, and always had him accounted for whenever he tried play action and rolling out of the pocket.

Yes. What was I thinking? Brain fart.

NOTE: All of the following assumes we beat the Phish twice and go 9-7. If we're going to get in a two team tie then we want KC to win. But if we're getting in a 3 team tie we want San Diego. Head to head doesn't count in 3 way ties unless one team beat the other 2 or lost to them both. So then SD would get eliminated because of their worse conference record. But KC would probably take it with SOV. Yes it is possible to beat the Ravens at 9-7 contrary to popular belief. If the Ravens loss comes to the Colts or the Bengals. That would tie us in conference record and in common opponents. SOV would probably be ours. Tennessee we would beat in common opponents as long as one of their losses comes to the Jags (to make their conference record 7-5). The fact is, at this point we really don't know if we want KC or SD to win. But when it's over we'll have a better idea of what we need.

Sorry but we don't get in under that scenario. If all that happened the 3 teams would be 9-7. Our head to head over KC would be meaningless since head to head only applies if one team beat the other two or lost to the other two. All 3 would be 9-7 in conference games. Common opponents also wouldn't apply since there won't be the minimum of 4 common opponents between all 3 teams. That goes to strength of victory which KC owns. If we're going to get into a 3 way with Tennessee (or Baltimore) it needs to be with San Diego. H2H still doesn't apply but then SD would drop out because of their worse conference record. We would then take Tennessee out with the common opponents (all assuming we beat the Phish X2 and Tenn loses to Jags to get to 9-7) or possibly Baltimore with SOV.

I don't know what it means. What does this mean? - _____________Pt Dif_________Strength Of Victory_________ Buffalo -50------------------------------.407 Baltimore +72-----------------------------.385 Kansas City +40-----------------------------.516 LA Chargers +73-----------------------------.341 Dallas +22-----------------------------.330 Detroit + 9------------------------------.363 Green Bay -17------------------------------.352

I don't have it recorded but I would love to see it again. I thought I remember the contact being made at the goal line. That's 2 yards. Is it possible it only looked like 1 yard because the receivers were lined up off sides (people were off sides all day)? That could have made it look like only 1 yard. And maybe that's why they had to have a discussion before calling it. Just wish I could see it again. Somebody post it, LOL. Also worth mentioning, if the player continued to block beyond 1 yard before the pass it's also illegal even if the contact was made inside the 1 yard.

It's possible because the only way for head to head to count in a 3 way tie is if one team beat the other two or if one team lost to the other two. If those three teams all get to 9-7 it will probably come down to strength of victory, which changes constantly. Three or more teams(Note: If two teams remain tied after the third step or other teams are eliminated, tiebreaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-team format.)1. Apply division tiebreaker to eliminate all but the highest-ranked team in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tiebreaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two wild-card participants.2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one team has defeated each of the others or if one team has lost to each of the others.)3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.5. Strength of victory.6. Strength of schedule.

But that goes without saying. As CA OC said, if we tie at 9-7 Baltimore must lose 2 AFC games. If Baltimore loses 2 AFC games and finishes 9-7, they will have had to beat Detroit. If they lose to Detroit and go 9-7 then they won't have lost 2 AFC games. To go 9-7 they have to lose 2 games. Saying they must lose 2 AFC games or saying one of their wins must be against Detroit is the same thing.

Well okay but it's really not. Article 5 defines a fumble as any act other than passing (etc.) . . . . which results in a loss of player possession. It doesn't have to say a backward pass that hits the ground is not a fumble. It already clearly defines a fumble, and clearly stipulates that a loss of possession due to "passing" is not a fumble. Of course we're probably wrong and every referee, competition committee member and coach (like Belllycheat) have never thought to bring this up. And yes, it mentions an intentional fumble that causes the ball to go forward being a forward pass (which it is, by definition) which could be illegal. There's lots of reasons a forward pass could be illegal. But it's just as important to note it doesn't say an intentional fumble that causes the ball to go backwards may be illegal. By definition an intentional fumble causing the ball to go backwards is a backwards pass, but there's nothing that makes a backwards pass illegal. It can be done at any time just as the rule states. And it's not a fumble, it's a live ball. There's a difference. As a similar example, stat sheets will show a muffed punt that is recovered by the kicking team as a fumble. But there are defiitely rules distinguishing a muff from a fumble. As in, the recovering team can recover a muff but can't advance it. That's a perfect example of something being called a fumble when it really isn't. Furthermore, it's not fair to say a backwards pass that hits the ground is treated the same as a fumble. It is in many ways, but if that were true, then you wouldn't be allowed to do it inside of 2 minutes. Ha ha ha ha ha. I'll be here all week.