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DE is gonna be a need. I think we cut Murphy and hopefully Shaq will take his money (maybe 1.5 mil more). Then I think we sign Ngakoue or Judon. Sorta dont think they extend J. Phillips. If you do FA right you should get a ~3rd round comp pick for him. I would give Liuget J Phillips old deal and then we have a healthy rotation of Star (hes not going anywhere next year), Ed, H Phillips, Liuget. Theres a bunch of UFA that I would resign including Spain, K Johnson, Spencer long, and maybe waddle (might be better for comp picks if you let him walk and while is a quality backup swing tackle he seems replaceable). After that extend as many of Milano, White, Poyer, (maybe) Dawkins as you can.

Go for the 2 point early. Unless you think its easier to convert the two point at the end of the game there is no reason to do it at the end. If you kick the xp then you need to leave enough time for 2 possessions in case your 2 point conversion fails. This leaves ample time for the opponent to score if you do convert your 2 point conversion. If you assume conversion of the 2 pointer is an unrealized risk (to the FMEA SME above) then you would like to have detection of that event (failed 2 point conversion) as early as possible so you can mitigate if needed. If you take preemptive action you allow the opponent an window. The only answer and again its only marginally better is to go for 2 early. The only logical answer for the 2 pointer at the end of the game is that you think itll be easier at that time.

I guess the next step in this discussion is where do you line him up to blow up romans game plan. Are they on their back up center?

I’ve been trying to mention this a lot this week. Shaq, milano, and Edmunds (maybe) have experience against him from his ACC days. His year after the heisman wasn’t too great so maybe they remember how to play him (I think that team didn’t have much talent though).

I am also worried about run defense and thought the cowboys got away from the run for no reason (against the pats too). However I don’t agree Ingram is the most powerful back we’ve seen yet. We played Derrick Henry and that game was close with him toting the rock 20 times but only averaging 3.9 ypc. Also agree that they were searching for their run stuffing DT but disagree if you don’t think it’s Liuget. Him and Harrison Phillips on IR make Jordan Phillips expendable pretty much (give Liuget Jordan’s contract this year and get a sweet comp pick for Jordan).

Oliver had success against him in college (albeit one game) but I think he can do whats needed.

I get what youre saying but I'm not thinking of the Ravens as a typical run offense. Yes weve given up big chunk plays using our standard gap assignments but with the Ravens game its much more assignment in the run game. In this way, sticking your assignment, we may actually be better than against a typical zone rushing attack. I'm sorta just making this all up so anyone with some knowledge please step in here. I would be interested to know how weve done versus power type runs versus zone runs. I know weve been killed on the duo concept all year.

Could argue the opposite. Were treating them like a option college offense and if any team is disciplined enough to beat that I think its our defense. For me its really the offense. I think theyll get 20-25. Can we get 25-30? I'm not sure I see us getting their, but if we do then I'm pretty sure the stars have aligned resulting in a Pats loss to the chiefs.

I think they are nervous in general. I think they know theyve needed blocked punts to win a couple of games and that they are not dominating like they have historically. If I were them I would root for the Ravens cause losing the division is a very real possibility with how theyve been playing lately. Im gonna check the chat out but its probably a very interesting debate for them.

Forgot about Oliver’s draft profile until last week but he definitely plays up to spotlight. In college some of his best games were in the biggest spotlight. In particular I remembered one of the games was the last time he played Lamar Jackson in his heisman year. Country Ed had 2 sacks and three TFL. Hoping he manages to take his games to another level this week.

@daymanPatriots have to lose two more games than we do because the tie breakers in the most likely situation go to them. that said just beat the ravens. If we do that then I think the rest of the stars will align cause the pats look very beatable. Their locker room hasn’t been fun after wins this year and I can only imagine what it’s like this week. Let’s hope the patriot way causes an implosion.

Really hope this injury bug bites NE and they drop two before playing us cause Texans and chiefs aren’t pushovers. If we can magically pull out a W next weekend we would be set up to take the mantle. Probably won’t happen but OMFG it’s not an implausible thought this December!

You’re not letting Murphy or Kroft go this year as that would cost you money (Kroft) or give you minimum savings. I know Shaq is gonna wanna be paid but so many lolz if he thinks he’s getting top 5 money. Even Jordan Phillips probably shouldn’t be top 5 in money. If that’s their line I’m ok with letting them go based on the whole body of their work. Agree mcbeane created this “mess” but your hindsight game is silly to me. A couple of those moves I agree could be seen as letting a good player (Gilmore) but at the end of the day they have gotten us into a really good position for the future. I never felt that way with Whaley. So yeah they tore it down but damn if the rebuild doesn’t look good.

I thought we had adequate tackle depth going into TC. Losing Waddle and Ty is rough, but hardly the worst that could happen (thats losing Dawkins). I think they can find someone that can learn the system and be better than Bates for 6 weeks. We need a back up not a starter so he hopefully shouldnt have to play.

Not sure we need to invest much in run stuffing DT. It seems more a need this year than in the long term. We may already have one with Harrison. And they should be able to find another big body later in the draft. Also resign Phillips.

Agree on the negativity. Almost had my soon to be brother in law taking swings at me because I threw some facts at his narrative that Josh Allen is the worst QB and shouldn't be in the NFL. Allen is average right now, which based on last year, pre draft expectations, and what he needed to work on, is great.

Meh. It was 3rd down and he didn’t make the sticks. I’ll take it. Fail is the TD scramble.

Here was a stat I was interested in. % drives that end in a 3 and out. We’re first with 37.3% and second is the 49ers with 28.3%. I think this a huge number.In the last 5 years I didn’t see a team above 34%. This 3 and out rate could be why we don’t have so many gaudy numbers in sacks and turnovers. We force a lot of incompletions and then 3 and outs. https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/drivestatsdef/2019

Yes definitely got the opportunity because Eifert was injured. My point was more about him actually getting open when he got the opportunity. I can definitely appreciate your opinion that he was a good signing that doesnt look as necessary now because of Knox and Sweeney. I suspect he will be an upgrade when he comes back and don't think he should be IR'ed (I'm not sure it was even you who said it).

I would give Kroft Sweeney's snaps and some of Knox's. You're sure Sweeney is a better blocker than Kroft? Also maybe Kroft was earning targets more than Sweeney (also could just be the Cincy offense)? Either way definitely don't IR him thats silly cause it doesnt save you any money and I'm not sure theres an upgrade out there. I think hell be an incremental upgrade over Sweeney and Knox. A two TE set with Kroft and Knox has me super excited. They can both run routes and will put a ton of stress on the defense. I don't think Sweeney is putting that stress on the defense yet (very excited to see him develop though).

I’m actually not convinced the pats offense is that great and they definitely are not balanced re: offense versus defense. That offense has the benefit of playing Miami Jets Skins and Steelers. That’s far from a murders row. I will be very interested to see how that offense performs as the season goes on.

Interesting that they waived Quessenberry. He has been active for them and even caught a TD. Feels like it’s odd that an OL would catch a TD and be released in the same year.

Yeah I forgot the exact language the but the comment about losing it immediately didnt quite jive with me. It felt in the first quarter like it was gonna be a blow out, but at the end of the day we were right there (and thats with the disastrous first quarter).

Yeah I don't get the comments about not being able to hang with either team when we did just hang with the Pats. I get it was at home but we more than demonstrated we should be in the talk. Whatevs well see them come around as the season progresses.

Not to the question of why weren’t getting points (I agree with TOs, sacks, drops, and penalties), but I think with this defense that offensive yards matter more than other teams. More yards mean more first downs which mean more rest for the defense. Feels as if we are way better in the 3 and out stat than last year and it’s helping our defense. Once this offense gels I think the points will come.