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Taping and then stealing signs in football would get you the play in advance. Knowing a play in football is a much bigger advantage than knowing a pitch in baseball. I can appreciate needing to tie it back to the front office, but they are repeat offenders and I believe one of the folks involved in this issue was involved with the previous jets issue (along with another taping issue with another team). If there is that much experience with it then theres not an excuse to me.

The problem is its very clearly understood you can not film the sidelines of other teams. There are still a lot of hand signals on the sidelines and elsewhere so being able to key in on any coach (not just HC, OC, or DC) to understand a play would be very valuable. The Pats know the rule and thats why the Cincinnati incident ended up being confrontational between the film crew and Bengals personnel when it went down. Maybe not more severe than before but def same punishment.

I member. I dont see any weapons that scare me on offense; Ben does not scare me. Last year that game was a comedy of errors on offense (check out the cover 1 break down below). Beasley not only doesnt catch a 3rd and long; it turns into a turnover. Brown alligator armed a pretty important 2nd and long. Singletary fumbles twice (that was more Steeler D, but fumbles do have a slightly random nature). Also that was when Frank Gore running no where was really frustrating (15 yards on 10 attempts). Never said theyll be worse but I do think Cleveland will be better, and really I dont think the 3rd place spot the Jets (Browns and Colts) have will be much worse than our 2nd place spot (Steelers and Titans).

I am not so sure about Steelers. What does Ben have left in the tank....? I think the Browns are gonna be better than them this year. Colts look good although I'll admit that the Titans are better. So I agree with the assertion that there is not much difference between the 2nd and 3rd slots. Hell Pats might have it easier than both with the Texans.

My Stab @RealKayAdams, kept the rookies and had to make some hard cuts QB (2): Allen, Fromm RB (4): Singletary, Moss, Yeldon, Jones FB (1): Dimarco WR (7): Diggs, Brown, Beasley, Davis, Hodgins, Mckenzie, Roberts TE (3): Kroft, Knox, Sweeney OT (4): Dawkins, Ford, Nsheke, Williams IOL (5): Morse, Spain, Feliciano, Long, Bates DT (5): Oliver, Lotulelei, Jefferson, Butler, Phillips DE (4): Hughes, Addison, Epenesa, Johnson OLB (3): Milano, Klein, Joseph ILB (2): Edmunds, Matakevich S (4): Hyde, Poyer, Johnson, Marlowe CB (6): White, Wallace, Norman, Neal, Johnson, Jackson K (1): Bass P (1): Vedvik LS (1): Ferguson Notable cuts/trades: Barkley, Lee Smith, Murphy, Gaines, Duke Williams, Robert Foster, Corey Thompson, Boehm, Boettger

leads the league in contested catches and is top 5 in yards per target and yards per catch.

Just to note he can be both 1) Really good against a small sample set of 8 man boxes (thus not holding back his YPC). 2) Still faced a few number of 8 man boxes and have his YPC drop if he faced more. His vision and contact balance is still so amazing. Cover 1 did the Pittsburgh game and while the fumbles were rough some of his vision is insane (he jump cuts away from a guy coming from behind him; how?).

But its not a turnover or even really close. Average field position after a safety (as described in the article) is much worse than average field position after a turnover. Its actually probably worth less points than a turnover from the same position on the field. Its overall undervalued. maybe 2 points and the ball at opponents 35 you could convince me but 2 points and return is not so valuable. Teams have taken safeties at the end of close games to seal wins cause its worth so little value. That should tell you all you need to know about how much its worth.

yeah thats not too surprising (nor would I disagree) but I think the counter is those specific circumstances are also pretty rare.

but doesnt that just belie the point. Since safeties can only occur on a certain part of the field they are more rare. I feel as if they should be game changing plays are they hardly ever are. Would love to see what would happen if they were worth more. certainly punting it inside the 5 would be a huge stat.

Resign him? I think he would be a slightly cheaper contract than Spain (tells you how good Spain’s contract is).

Yeah but the rule clearly says. Agree with @Doc. You can’t say well that’s what the rule book says even though it’s ticky tack on the ford play and then say common sense on the touchback. It’s ticky tack but that’s the rule. It’s a TD. note I think neither should have been called. And would consider it consistent and evening out if they had been treated the same way. It’s an annoying when two similar situations don’t get treated the same and they both hurt us.

Would you concede that if we’re going just by text book (again I’m not sold this block is as textbook as you say) then they should have absolutely have applied the textbook consistently and given us the TD in the kickoff? Then we’re not talking about this block or a Spain hold. I think yeah the bills could’ve played better but the refs did affect the outcome of the game with their inconsistent officiating. As for on to the next game we’re 1) fans so focusing on the last game doesn’t hurt anything 2) this isn’t the regular season so there isn’t a next game.

Drops are by definition throws that should have been caught. None of the throws in the tweet were drops. Does he need to get more consistent? Yes. Does the supporting cast need to not let him down so much? Yes (drops and separation from WR also time and penalties from the OL).

The inconsistency is the problem to me. If we’re playing by the letter then we get the TD and sure ford made a bad block (I still think his vector is more towards the sideline than it is towards his own goal). If you are being reasonable then no TD (I was ok it in real time) but don’t call that silly blindside block.

Fair number of those throws though were quick reads from a clean pocket. I think those are wrong reads which I would agree is a processing problem (an accurate read vs a quick read). Honestly as a pure thrower Allen is super impressive if he has time. Heard he was the only one in the class to hit the cross bar of a FG from 30 yards out. Then he did it in 2 (maybe 1) throws with Simms. When he throws the fastball it can get away from him but his load to target is insane too. Again as part of the processing I think he needs to know when to use each of those tools. Accuracy for the man plays. Load to target against that collapsing zone. Again he hasn’t played as many snaps (Hs + camps + college + NFL) as the other guys in his class so I am very hopeful he can grow. Now with the tools the expectation is gonna be pretty high (division and a playoff win seems reasonable).

The part I don’t get is the overall %. It’s lower than just the three averaged. Deep balls would be the least so I would expect him to be closer to those two numbers. Something doesn’t check out. Agree with other posters the problem is his mechanics on a lot of those throws. I’m still reminded that some scouts thought he might be 10k fewer throws than the other QBS in that draft

He lost a throwing competition to isaiah mckenzie last year ?! Seriously that video of barkley trying to throw a plyo ball was ugly.

Gotcha. I agree with him being a bust. But wouldn’t say he sucks. Thanks.

So Sammy sucks? Then Milano should be HoF because he was drafted in the 5th round? I agree with your thoughts about the GM and the draft. But when I evaluate players in the league I don’t care where they were drafted. Your logic would have had us not make the Hughes trade (a 1st rounder not playing well) for Sheppard (a meh middle round pick). You have to evaluate the player without mind of where he was drafted. and yes you evaluate the GM based on where they picked the player.

You mean he sucks relative to his draft position? Clearly he doesn’t suck if he’s getting 9 mil as @thebandit27 said.

Over the cap has a savings of 2.77 mil if he is traded post June 1st. I could see the Beane wizard getting a late round for him in training camp. Based on positional flexibility i would say he is the mostly likely to get moved. https://overthecap.com/player/spencer-long/3017/

It usually looked like he took his eye off the ball and started looking up field. Josh has a cannon so that probably didn’t help when he took his eye off the ball. For now I’m hopeful he can improve.

If they go WR and not OT I will be very happy. Hell WR over CB would be great too.

This place was melting down like every week with how few points we scored when we won (I agree we should score more). So.... no I don’t recall those situations. I do recall a lot of leads in the second half with a great defense which caused us to sit on leads and not throw. To me this leads to less TDs per game but more TDs per attempt. Based on this (anecdotal as it is) I think TD per attempt would be better correlated with winning and long term QB success than TDs per game.