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Did not hear good things about Cunningham from a Texans content creator

Sure thats fair. This place can be a bit crazy so it may have gotten under his skin during that particular interaction (don't want to speak for them, nor do I have any perspective on the situation youre talking about). But they seem to be able to have football discussion with many great content creators (dont know how they are on the twitter sphere) which is why the description of the situation seemed odd to me. I would also note that I have appreciated your thoughts over the years and you are one of the reason I actually come back to this board. So thank you for what you do.

Probably stopped posting cause they are so busy. They have done very well. If peeps wanna say its homerism, then they got into the biz with homerism at the right time. I thought they were critical of Josh in their film analysis while pointing out some of his good stuff. Overall, I think cover 1 has been great and I enjoy their content. Maybe they seem like homers cause this board is hilariously pessimistic (see threads/posts on Allen regression, allen cant play in wind, allen cant play in front of crowds, tremaine edmunds is bad at MLB). If youre gonna deal with that stuff might as well just do it on twitter where its more visible. They have been highly regarded by the other thoughtful content creators like Joe Marino and Bruce Nolan. I dont think either of those guys are homers, and they seem to be able to have discussions/disagreements. They are able to get guests from other teams every week, and I dont think they could do that if were the homers that didnt understand football.

I forget if it was posted in the chat but rivers was on cover 1 preview show for Texans insight. This how he thinks he got the job.

I’m meh on their grades and didn’t comment on the value of the OP versus pff. That’s a very fair point. The OP seems to want to do it While they are homers they are up front with it. They also have a very good perspective particularly in their roles. Erik breaks down tape at a level similar to Baldy (better than other content creators such as Jackson Krueger) and Gregg has gotten several contracts dead on. I don’t listen to hoof but like the opinions of Quinn and pohashka. What is the bad info they have given?

I don’t think teams subscribe for the grades. I think they subscribe for easy access to the advanced stats like formations, blitz %, and under pressure splits. These are not subjective like the grades. This is specifically why cover 1 subscribed to them

Joe Marino agrees that hes the best player for their defense iirc. was limited today so probably ok to play.

This year I think they are doing less Allen film and adding other players. They did offense and defense specific ones for Miami. Still covered Josh, but had me excited for WFT because the offense was 4/4 in the red zone against Fins. Allen struggled in the middle of the field but got the job done when its most important.

Why does it make 0 sense? It could be a logical fallacy but it seems logical that if the defense is playing well then Edmunds is. See cover 1 for video evidence to back up the claims of good in coverage. EDIT: below is video breakdown from Broncos last year. most of coverage this year has been to the twitter which i def dont know how to work https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNB2n8QTfWA&t=467s

Didnt they say red zone snaps? So thats just scoring on the first play every time? 50 redzone trips doesnt make sense to me, but the also those numbers you gave for seattle dont make a ton of sense either (got into FG range after coming up short on 3rd down?)

No anthony has been trying to make it happen all offseason. I'm on board as a way to make him part of our team and not just a journey man. (think its sands but it sorta fades at the end.) 12 pressures is a lot. Allen had elite pocket mobility this week which prevented sacks. Allen was hitting off platform throws like last year too.

Counter point, they are turning after a 1st round QB and a lot of UFA spending. Not unfair of them to expect better results than last year. But I think we agree this couldnt happen to a better fan base.

Been watching these for years (since Josh was a rook) and they have been very much worth it.

Yeah I heard Ford had 12 pressures allowed. He had Payne most game and he’s a handful for sure, but still gotta do better. I thought they were going iOL early anyway. I’m not sure one of mongo or Morse is here next year.

Do you mean cash, salary, or cap hit? For 2022 he’s currently listed as 10th highest cap hit for ILB on spotrac. Do we need to lower hit if he is 10th in terms of cap? https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/2022/cap-hit/inside-linebacker/

Yes by my limited understanding

I think its almost all the loss. I see 104 million lost on forbes and 7 mil per game at another site. Thats 56-104 mil. https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2020/05/18/the-stadium-revenue-each-nfl-team-will-lose-if-games-are-played-without-fans/?sh=1a6417a4691a (figure at bottom) https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/062515/how-nfl-makes-money.asp (half way down they discuss money per event). Edit: Math in the second one didnt add up. I got it closer to 80. So yeah most of it was ticket loss.

Spot trac has him as the 10th highest in 2022. So wow thats pretty reasonable if you think hes at number 10 like most of the board (and many posters). https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/2022/inside-linebacker/cap-hit/

there are three votes for pro bowl. coaches, players, fans. he did not get in by the fans (see: this board as evidence). So thats providing player and coaches (not fans) as evidence. I thought we didnt like PFF grades, but if thats how you lean then you must agree Tre White was the 19th best corner in 2019. Missed tackle percentage is a problem but also a problem for the whole defense outside Levi Wallace. Edit: his missed tackle percentage for 2020 was 9.4%. This is just on the wrong side of average (still within 1 SD I assume), so more average than bad. Again McD defenses here have been notoriously bad at tackling.

Youre not really debating the merits of your point though. He's been to pro bowls (clearly not by fan vote), 3x captain, voted in top 10 at position. these all counter you position of "bad." How do you respond to these points (@alphadawg7 is probably frustrated because you seem to ignore them)? Do you have evidence to support your position of why hes bad? Do you have replacements that you seemed sure the bills would select in the draft? Please add value to the convo.

Based on the schedule we will have played the same number of games. I get that we played a team we wouldnt have but whats more important is number of games which will be the same. Edit: you mention wear and tear above, thats dependent on number of games not if it was a team you wouldnt have played before

For Stephenson? Maybe. I think the injury made it easier to stash him on the PS. Who wants to put an injured 6th round pick on their roster.

I feel very confident beane has a path for keeping all these players (Dawkins and Poyer have been extended already) whether it includes edmunds or not.

Would like some data. However, I am arguing there are things about Edmunds we’re not seeing; though I am using facts to support. I wait for PFF up to come up with a metric 😅

I just don’t know that this can be proven. Is there anything to support. All the other data suggests it’s random.