BuffaloSol

Really? You read that and you still act like nothing happened here.??? Just process it man, they have ruined football for 20 years. I'm not sure why you think it's okay to defend them?

Don't say this I'm going to the game which is now a night game & I have to work 3 hours away the next morning.

If you haven't read this https://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/13533995/split-nfl-new-england-patriots-apart you really should.

Accidents happen, and the tip of the iceberg, what we know is that they were paying cleaning ladies to go into rooms they didn't own or rent out to sort through trash or allow them to enter the rooms, probably illegally. The cleaning ladies don't have authority to allow random people into big chain hotel rooms for money under the table. And I am pretty sure that the Bengals are the ones that took the tape.

The players accidentally leaving something behind or throwing something in the trash makes it there fault? Sounds like victim blaming "it was the wives fault she stayed with her abusive husband!" When a team goes out of there way to get information that they should not be privy to, and is clearly against the rules, it is cheating, they didn't just stumble upon it. Seriously??? People think purposely trying to get the other other teams playbook every game, then using that to your advantage is not cheating?

Really WEO? Tre White joking about picking up ravens trash is the same as going into players rooms after they leave and paying cleaning ladies to collect stuff in rooms? Also Bengals have original NFL has copy.

Exactly, it's like they don't understand how good our D is. Hodges just played the worst D in the league(giving up most fantasy point by far to qbs) as a warm up for this game, while we are third best against QB's. Only way we lose is some clear terrible referee calls, even then we have overcome that accept against pats and Ravens.

How is stealing playbook information and game notes not cheating though?

Wrong, It's 100% cheating. I'm not sure if you were joking?

Sorry "buddy" when this conversation originally started I had lol'd at the Bills opening as an underdog, which they didn't, did I miss something? Also the Bills are 8-4-1 ATS 3rd best this year & 70% of bettors are taking Buffalo with the points, if you know what that means then you would not think bettors hate the bills (for good reason). I laughed at the Cowboys spread to "buddy." I guess you are one of the few who thought the 6.5 over under win total was a tough bet.

I'll be there with a clan, can't wait to hear them crying about "'if we only had big ben."

Because you waited to try to say ""got you" when the Initial line was (-1)Bills and you forgot to mention I said Mason Rudolph led Steelers. There is hype for this ducky by the public but he played a team that gives up the most fantasy points to QB's, the cardinals are a really bad team. Oh, he started vs the bengals chargers and browns terrible d's. This will be a blow out if we show up, which they have for every game other than Philly this year. It's a terrible line just like most of lines early in the year and the 6.5 over/under wins. Go out and make yourself some money.

When you have amazing video quality and equipment there is absolutely no need to zoom in on original footage, in fact you would want to see the whole sideline to see what subs are coming on and off and what all players are doing, you can zoom in on the play back. The thing my gut is telling me is they have a guy recording headset conversations. I know that has to be what Ernie Adams is for, it is bull#### there is no way they are not piecing together this ***** prior to the game, It's why his assistants are not nearly as successful when they leave. I would not be surprised if Belichek, Adams, Kraft, Brady, & Maybe McDaniels after reneging on the Colts Head coach job are the only ones that fully understand what Ernie Adams does.

I completely disagree that the Bills will be an underdog to the Mason Rudolph led Steelers. That's why I am "lol"ing, not sure why you didn't catch that. How did this age? Love the snark of "not sure why you didnt catch that" too... You do realize they opened as favorites right? The line shift is hilarious with this D against Ducky Hodges. But hey we might let you back on the bandwagon this week after we stomp the Steelers.

I was livid at this! Seriously how do you not get fired at the highest level of your profession when you do something like this?

It's pretty simple how it helps with accuracy, it opens up players down field when they have to cover an elite RB at the QB position. I'm not sure how throwing dump offs to rb's and tes is being very accurate in tight windows. I watched the whole san fran game, he is really good but can it last?

Watson is not like Lamar though & you only named a few because there is only a few that were successful in fact most of the ones names are not like Lamar. Vick is really the only one similar, I'm not saying he can't do it but I am saying it doesn't happen often & Lamar as just a passer relies a lot on how good of a runner he is. Watson, McNabb, Wilson, Allen are similar qb's.

Although it is crazy we haven't sold out & prices are cheap, Ravens are the 2nd worst traveling fan base in the league per this report. https://scholarblogs.emory.edu/esma/2019/06/24/nfl-fandom-report-2019/ I think that is a Major factor, and this will be a game that is nearly full of Bills fans, unlike the eagles who per this report are the best travelling fans.

Sorry, I disagree on that Lamar is a better passer, better running back yes, elite in fact. People are scared to say it because of "racial things," but when QB's have relied that much on running the ball they have not lasted. I think the Russel Wilson, DeShawn Watson, Josh Allen approach is a much better, sustainable route 400-700 yds a year. You can disagree but it doesn't make me wrong.

Bring in Eric Wood this week, to talk to Frazier.

I still think this is a worse pick than Mike Williams. Williams at least had the talent to live up to his selection, just super lazy.

Unless we had Roman as OC Lamar would not look like he does with Baltimore.

Them wearing white definitely helps us according to that San Francisco radio announcer...

I hate all those games this year we gave up 200 yds rushing to a player!

no that might be tough to turn down, but it would still derail this team.