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Allen didn't get any college offers after high school and went to the well-know powerhouse Reedley College. After 2 years at that junior college, (playing against other programs like Monterey Peninsula College) he tried to get a scholarship to a 4 year school and had only two colleges interested. He went to Wyoming (in the 7th best football conference) and his senior year the highest ranked team they beat was Colorado State, #83 nationally. He had a 30 QB rating against Iowa and a 6 (six) rating against <<Colorado>>> EDIT: Should have written Oregon.. His completion percent was 53, & 56%. in the pros it goes down about 10%. How in the heck is this guy a top 6 QB? https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2018/4/24/17271686/josh-allen-nfl-draft-2018-stats-analysis-comparisons

Soooooo. Charlie Casserly gets to peek at 24 of the team's big board. Yep. Of course. The guy who picked Schuler 3rd knows a lot about QB's. Do you really believe this?

I still think that if the top 4-5 QB's , that we might like, are gone before we even get a chance to trade up, the we should consider trading down to get another pick in the first two rounds. That would give us a shot (30%? ) at a good QB, and 6 picks to use for o-line / o-line / linebacker / DB / BPA / and (if we can swing it) trading a 2nd rounder for a 1st next year so we would have the ammo to use two first round picks to trade up for a franchise guy next year. (only God knows if there might be 2-3 guys with that profile next year. NEWS FLASH: They haven't played the 2018 college season yet). That would give us a couple of routes to a superior QB and start surrounding him with pieces to make him successful. "Daddy, Daddy..... I want a pony for my birthday that I can keep at home!" Uh, I got trouble playing the bills and we live in an apartment. "Daddy, Daddy..... I want a pony for my birthday that I can keep at home! We can sell the car, move to the country, you and mom could both work 3 jobs each and it would work out well. I could keep my same bedroom and all my friends"

.....and Brass Balls is also trading up to get somebody who has a 50% chance of being a bust. Regardless, you got a rookie QB, likely to be holding a clip board for a year or two, while you have street FA's playing offensive line, linebacker and 5th/6th defensive backs. Yep. two years of 3-13 and you traded away the next year's first round pick #2. .............. Unless you really LIKE coaching junior college division III or selling real estate,,, you don't do that. Hey. Different people do different things. The Bills logo does not mean they are looking for Dennis Shaw.

I've seen that cream advertised. It was Cramer's Atomic Balm. Poor guy couldn't take a pee for a week.

Both are necessary. Kelly walking in when the line was already pretty well built. If we spend a lot to trade up, we will be down 3 players from last year's line, with backups playing. He is not going to have the same chance.

R.Wilson is a running threat, Mayfield isn't. That was the reason for talking about the 40 time.

Well all that proves that we will get the QB we want because we have used up all the bad picks that God allowed us.

How expert are the draft experts?

I am 60% sure that they will have a QB next season. The rumor that McBean was checking out single-wing playbooks from the library has been discredited. Uh, why don't you look up the number of 1st and 2nd round picks and the number of pro-bowlers on the offensive line and defense for the Bills in that era. Kelly would be just another Irish name without them.

Are you worried that Mayfield is six foot tall? Other QB at 6' or under Drew Brees (extremely accurate and has 5 of the 9 5K yard season in the NFL ) (can he match this unique guy for accuracy?) R Wilson (4.55 in the forty versus 4.8 for Mayfield. For reference: Josh Sweat of Florida State 4.53 seconds. Marcus Davenport 4.58 seconds, dee Aruna came 4.60....4.8 is a typical time for a 295 pound DE) Can he run away from a DE? He is starting out with two things he has to prove, in my book.

OMG. Somebody wanted to draft Falk in the bottom of the first round.

I think there are 6 guys out there but I'm not going to consider 3 of them. Darnold.................he will not be available except at #1 or #2 and we can not afford to trade up and take a franchise QB away from somebody who also wants him. Allen..................played 2 years at Reedely Junior College, 2 years at a team in the 7th best conference. QB rating of 6 against Colorado, and 30 against Iowa. Smoked Gardner Webb 27-0. Best victory last year was against #83 ranked Colorado State. Did NOT play against top competition and had a low % completion rate. Too much of a risk for the Bills. Also, lets be real.. The coaching staff is NOT going to risk their careers on his "potential". Mayfield..............He is six foot tall. The only 6' QB's in the last ? 20 years that were franchise type were Russel (runs about 4.5, where Mayfield runs a DE type 4.8) and Breese (very accurate, holds 5 of the 9 alltime 5000yard passing records). Not accurate or fast enough to measure up to other 6' QB. I'll pass. That leaves Rudoph, Jackson and Rosen to go for in the #6? to #18 range. It is a deep draft. Use those first 3 round picks wisely.

I do not think that anyone disagrees that we DO need a "franchise" QB. That is defined as a QB who seriously contributes to the Bills winning enough games to get deep into the playoffs every year. The question is whether we HAVE to trade 6 high draft picks this year and a couple next year to get "the guy" in the top 3-4 picks this year. One thing the Bills have NOT done is to draft a QB in the lower 1st round or the 2nd or 3rd round most years in order to get one without giving up 2 years of draft picks. If this year is the greatest QB year in history, then we should do just fine in getting a "franchise guy" at #12 or with a modest trade up to 6-11. If there are a lot of hyped busts coming out of this draft, then why not try to limit the damage?

Allen had two good years at Reedly College before going to a school in the 7th best conference in the country. Last year his QB rating against Iowa was 30 and against Colorado was 6. (as in six). He did smoke Garner-Webb 27-0. ...... Why is there such blind faith that he will do great against NFL teams?? The Bills have been very good about not leaking their QB board. "The Bills are after XXX" rumors begin, continue and stop with sportswriters running out click-bait on the basis of pure BS.

Naw, he will play in one game, where it is 15 degrees, with wind and snow. Then he will start having headaches from his concussion and he will be surfing for 3 years before the Bills get another 1st round pick and a chance at an early first round QB.

I do have words for you type of stupid. It is a childish attitude.

Last year Allen had a 6 QB rating against Colorado and a 30 QB rating against Iowa. He did smoke Garner-Webb 27-0 He has two years of college football in the 7th best conference in the country, but was pretty good at Reedly Junior College for two years. His best victory was at #84 Colorado State. Sorry, one of the sensible criteria I always hear is that a high draft pick should have a number of years of success against good competition. Yep, here is who Reedly (Allen's team for 2 of his 4 years) played: (I found the 2017 schedule- it was likely very similar) Sequoias, Los Medanos, Redwoods Hartnell, Fresno, SanJose, Galviana, Merced, West Hills Coalinga, and Monterey Peninsula. Do you feel better about the top notch competition that Allen has under his belt, when he gets behind center for the Bills? Have you ever heard of these places? I'm sure that they are brave and good people playing there, but is it a good prep for the NFL? Sat. 11 at *

Imagine that the Bills trade their two first round, two second round and a third, PLUS next year's first to move up to #2 or #1. (One sports network has suggested this as being done in a two stage trade). And then, several things could happen: [1] the guy is a bust and the Bills gutted the team and next year's top 4 pick for NOTHING and/or [2] most of the top-con't-miss QB's drop into the lower half of the 1st round or the second round. The Bills are then absolute FOOLS because the sold all those good picks for nothing in a year when a lot of positions have solid prospects in the first 3 rounds. They bought the hype generated by the teams looking for SUCKERS to trade up. Now, please unleash all the testosterone-fueld "whatever it takes" posters, who are so scared of missing on a QB, that they will stock the rest of the team with borderline practice squad players and take 3-13 seasons for the next 5 years because they are such scaredy cats.

I think the QB's this year have been hyped. Some teams are going to sell off 5 other players that they could have drafted in a good draft to move up and get an average or bust QB. All this very brave, MOVE UP type people are going to be nowhere to be found after some teams take taken for SUCKERS.

Also I expect this. Some teams are really going to go for the hype and be taken for suckers. Yep. That 6 QB rating against Colorado last year really looked good. And the 30 rating against Iowa. DATE OPP RESULT 9/2 @Iowa L 24-3 9/9 Gardner-Webb W 27-0 9/16 Oregon L 49-13 9/23 Hawai'i W 28-21 (OT) 9/30 Texas State W 45-10 10/14 @Utah State W 28-23 10/21 @Boise State L 24-14 10/28 New Mexico W 42-3 11/4 Colorado State W 16-13 11/11 @Air Force W 28-14 11/18 Fresno State L 13-7 11/25 @San Jose State L 20-17

Utter reaching for something to say.

I agree that it seems a bit strange that there are people saying that there are 5 or so QB's who should be in the top 10 and maybe 8-9 in the first round. What has happened this century in the actual draft? year ..............top 5................ 6-10....................... 11-20...................... 21-32 ..................total =============================================================================== 2016 .................2......................... .0............................. 0............................... 1................................ 3 2015................. 2........................... 0............................ 0................................ 0................................ 2 2014 .................1........................... 0.............................0................................ 2................................ 3 2012 ..................2.......................... 1............................. 0................................ 1............................... 4 2011.................. 1.......................... 2............................. 1................................ 0............................... 4 2010 .................1.......................... 0............................... 0................................1............................... 2 2009................. 2.......................... 0.............................. 1................................ 0............................... 3 2008................. 1........................... 0............................. 1................................ 0............................... 2 2007................. 1.......................... 0.............................. 0................................. 1.............................. 2 2006.................. 1.......................... 1.............................. 1............................... 0............................... 3 2005 ..................1.......................... 0............................. 2................................ 0.............................. 3 2004................... 2......................... 0.............................. 1............................... 1............................... 4 2003.................. 1.......................... 1.............................. 1................................ 1............................. 4 2002 ..................2.......................... 0.............................. 0................................ 1............................. 4 2001................... 1......................... 0............................. 0..................................0 ..............................1 2000 ...................0......................... 0.............................. 1................................ 0.............................. 1 So all lot of one or two QB's in the top 5, a lot of ZERO QB's in the 6-10 (and indication of reaching I think) and 2,3,4 overall in the first round. This year's prediction, is all over the map, lets use http://www.businessinsider.com/2018-nfl-mock-draft-consensus-first-round-2018-1#32-kolton-miller-ot-ucla-32 year ..............top 5...................... 6-10....................... 11-20........................ 21-32 ......................total ================================================================================= 2018..................3..............................1....................................1..................................0...............................5 others.(avg)....1.2 ...........................0.3................................ 0.5............................... 0.5.......................... 2.6 So 5 of 17 years had as many as 4 taken in the first round and this year it is 5 taken. If we look at QB in the top 10 and the rest of the round and compare we get: 2018.......................top 10................22 to 32 =================================== 2018.............................1.5................1 2000->20174................4...................1 Just seems to be running a bit high.

Would you take that guy who had 2 years at Reedly Junior College and two years in college, (with a QB rating of 30 against Iowa and 6 against Colorado) if he fell to us at #12?