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Wide Receiver Train Full Speed Ahead- CHOO CHOO!
LEBills replied to Pete's topic in The Stadium Wall
My personal 2025 WR rankings: #11 Kyle Williams WR Washington State (RD 2-3) - 4.39 YPRR vs man coverage last year - Played over 80% of his snaps out wide - Fifth year senior What does he do on film? Speed and acceleration - 1:17 but pause at 1:21 and you will see just how fast KW is out of his cuts. KW is already bending around the defender can even get his punch out - 4:52 really nice job faking the slant before bending into the out route and leaving CB turned around - 5:27 settled into the right part of the zone and then showed off the slippery missed tackle ability - 7:19 speed really weaponized in reverses and end arounds - 14:23 dangerous when used like Tyreek Hill in motion prior to the snap. So fast. Weaknesses: - Bad habit of not getting proper depth on his curl routes and getting stopped short of the marker - A bit one dimensional as a player. When a CB was able to keep up with him, you felt the lack of size (vs Washington) Conclusion: A hidden gem that is now in the spotlight after Chris Simms featuring him as the #2 WR in the draft. He is totally a Simms WR as he produces a lot of big plays. His size will be a big question of if he can continue to play in the outside in the NFL. His route tree also was not very diverse and would need to expand. A role in a Mike McDaniel type offense where he can be used in motion to enhance his speed would be the best environment for KW to breakout. I expect him to go round 2. -
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LEBills replied to Warriorspikes51's topic in The Stadium Wall
If you look at the DTs that were all pro or pro bowl over the last decade, a vast majority of them either had 5 sacks in a season by their third year in college or ran a sub 5.0 40 at over 295 pounds. CJ West is the only DT in the draft to hit both. He is going to be a stud. -
Wide Receiver Train Full Speed Ahead- CHOO CHOO!
LEBills replied to Pete's topic in The Stadium Wall
If you have him rated higher than me I can respect that. 1 thru 12 on this list were very hard for me to rank. In the end I do think he is a bit more typecast than other players. For him to be rated higher by me, I wanted to see a bit more playmaking after the catch on shorter routes. I think he will be a good player and probably better than several I have ranked above him, but in the range of outcomes I think his ceiling is a bit less than other players ceilings. -
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Wide Receiver Train Full Speed Ahead- CHOO CHOO!
LEBills replied to Pete's topic in The Stadium Wall
He had a couple different head coaches and coordinators as an underclassmen at Oregon. His junior year at Tennessee he only played 6 games. This year the Vols ran for more yards than they passed, Thornton led the team. Watson was the more well rounded athlete coming out of college. But I was referring more to how he is handled at Green Bay. There are some weeks where he plays a lot, but most weeks he hovers in the 50 to 70% of offensive snaps. I don’t think Thornton is a full time player - Tennessee didn’t use him that way - so playing him during specific formations would be his best bet in the NFL. I don’t know if concern is the right word. He played over 70% of his snaps from the slot and the “out wide” snaps included a lot of late shifts where he wound up as the outside guy…so there projection…and his short arms are a disadvantage against longer defenders. But I think if you try to make him an outside receiver you are neutering what makes him a really good player. He is at his best stretching the field and I think having him inside against more nickels, safeties and linebackers where he can just kind of weave around them and outrun them is his best way to get vertical. It also gives him more space to get to the flat. I thought the dynamic they had at ISU with him and Higgins was a really nice 1-2 punch where their skills were very different but very complimentary. -
Wide Receiver Train Full Speed Ahead- CHOO CHOO!
LEBills replied to Pete's topic in The Stadium Wall
My personal 2025 WR rankings: #12B Elijah Badger WR Florida (RD 5-6) - Transfer from ASU - returned kicks for ASU and averaged 28.9 yards per return - Second is SEC for YPC this year What does he do on film? - 5:22 jet sweep, multiple missed tackles forced - 6:18 awareness against the zone defense to keep moving to the open zone - 7:20 finished with the easy touchdown vs cover 0 - 12:10 keeps working to QB throwing lane as pocket collapses, rewarded with big catch and run - 29:30 quick break behind the zone defender, crosses to the other side of the field for crucial first down catch - :26 looks familiar right? Jet sweep forcing several missed tackles - 1:10 beats the CB good position with awesome hands catch for the first down - 1:21 finds the hole in coverage down field for 4th down conversion. Notice his awareness of the defenders around him to pick up extra yardage when surrounded by USC defenders - 3:29 first off Skattebo is so fun. Badger is so elusive for his size. Weaknesses: - Production throughout his career was mid - Will be 24 this summer Conclusion: A former 4-star recruit, he caught passes from Jaden Daniels in 2022 which may have been his best year. What I like about Badger is he can play anyway you need him. Last year he had a 7.3 aDOT, this year his aDOT was 17.3. If you need him to make a play on a jet sweep he can do that, if you need him to make a short catch and make a couple defenders miss he can do that, and if you need him to just win downfield he can do that too. This year when he was used on many more deep routes he had 0 drops, a near 70% contested catch success rate, and the fifth best YPRR in the class. If there is to be a Khalil Shakir day 3 surprise breakout WR, I would put my chips on Badger pre-draft -
Wide Receiver Train Full Speed Ahead- CHOO CHOO!
LEBills replied to Pete's topic in The Stadium Wall
My personal 2025 WR rankings #12A Jaylin Noel WR ISU (RD 2) - Best WR combine performance - Improved each year in college - Offers punt return value What does he do on film? Speed: - :20 just runs around the linebacker and then the safety - 1:00 Easily beats the press and stacks the DB - 1:29 angle route, just spins momentum in other direction for big yac - 2:02 just too fast up the seam for coverage to rotate quick enough. TD. - 3:17 man coverage without safety help is a bad proposition - 4:36 sheds the jam by the linebacker, hits the out and up Weaknesses: - Can masquerade outside every so often, but is a speed slot player - More fast than elusive with only a handful of forced missed tackles Conclusion: Noel was asked to take the top off the defense and he did that consistently, his speed is truly dangerous. Most of his routes are deep down the field but has shown good out routes and other shallow routes but value is in stretching the defense vertically. Noel’s physicality against presses and jams should guarantee immediate success in the NFL. His slot alignment and being pigeonholed into this role is what ranks him this low compared to other receivers who have shown a bit more alignment versatility. -
TSW 1.0 Poll - Who should the Bills select at #30 (Poll Closed)
LEBills replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall
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TSW 1.0 Poll - Who should the Bills select at #30 (Poll Closed)
LEBills replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall
Amos is a good player but Nolen is the better player princely? -
Wide Receiver Train Full Speed Ahead- CHOO CHOO!
LEBills replied to Pete's topic in The Stadium Wall
My Personal 2025 WR Rankings: #13 Dont’e Thornton WR Tennessee (RD 2-3) - Oregon transfer - Helped take care of 4 younger siblings while his father was in prison - 2 time SEC academic honor roll What does he do on film? You have to have Safety help over the top - 1:43 RPO draws safety toward the LOS and Thornton fills the vacated space for another easy touchdown - 6:34 copy and paste - 6:48 ditto Deep ball tracking - 1:33 Thornton is excellent at tracking the ball in the air - 3:46 late hands and cradles the ball as he runs full speed while being dragged down from behind Weaknesses: - Is not going to shake a tackler but will politely fall forward - College offense schemed open looks rather than Thornton creating separation via route running Conclusion: Being 6’5’’ and running a 4.3 is a superpower. One that forces teams to account for you each snap you are on the field. He also is a pretty good run blocker which will be important for him to stay on the field in 2 WR sets. But Thornton comes with many questions that can’t be answered by his measurements. Despite his size, he was never used much as an end zone target and his contested catch rate varied wildly from year to year. He also was only used on a few routes, and not having a more varied route tree will make covering him easier than it should be in the pros. Thornton is a package player with a very important role in an Offense (Tennessee used him as such as he wound up with the 4th most WR snaps on the team). I think a Christian Watson role may be where he carves out his niche. -
TSW Mock 1.0 - The Cowboys (Doc Brown) are on the clock
LEBills replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall
With the 22nd pick in the 2025 TSW Mock Draft, the Los Angeles Chargers select Tyler Booker, OL, Alabama. Though fans may clamor for a flashier pick at WR, TE, or Edge, the Chargers fix their biggest weakness. Zion Johnson has been very bad and interior pass protection was a key factor in the most recent playoff loss. Zion Johnson has been rumored to be moved to Center, Mechi Becton was signed to shore up RG and now we add the best OL in the draft to fill LG. Things are finally turning up Chargers! The Green Bay Packers and @EmotionallyUnstable are now on the clock. -
Wide Receiver Train Full Speed Ahead- CHOO CHOO!
LEBills replied to Pete's topic in The Stadium Wall
Keon had a 1.89 yprr vs zone and his career yprr was 1.87 -
Wide Receiver Train Full Speed Ahead- CHOO CHOO!
LEBills replied to Pete's topic in The Stadium Wall
Bond may wind up great because he has talent but the precedent isn’t there. It’s used mostly in Fantasy Football but having above a 2.0 career YPRR and above a 2.20 YPRR vs zone is critical to hit at least one threshold if you want to be in the bucket of all the best receivers. Their have been some outliers - DK Metcalf, BTJ but both were significantly bigger players than Bond is. BUT, if you just count the games this year where he was healthy, he outperformed Matthew Golden and easily cleared both of those thresholds. So that is why you get the variance. Some teams will see him for what he is. Some will see him for what he could be. For me, a smaller WR (I like above 190 pounds and 9 inch hands), with questionable production, injury concerns and character concerns is a bad mix. But if the Bills draft him, I think the character concerns were probably overblown and would have more confidence in him reaching that ceiling. -
Wide Receiver Train Full Speed Ahead- CHOO CHOO!
LEBills replied to Pete's topic in The Stadium Wall
My personal 2025 WR Rankings: #14 Isaiah Bond WR Texas (RD 2-3) - Youngest receiver in the draft - Poor advanced metrics - Played with two very poor QBs What does he do on film? Can he play bigger than his size? - 8:39 lower the shoulder and set the tone - 11:31 shallow crossing route in the end zone, goes up for the poorly thrown ball and hangs on after being flipped by the defender - 19:15 the catch or route are not impressive, but how the defender came out of the play worse after hitting Bond is. We are all here for the long ball: - 2:46 Free release out of the stack and the CB just can’t keep up - 9:17 moving at a different speed than his defender - 10:20 nice tempo to start his route before attacking the shoulder and torching Jahdae Barron - 20:07 But literally no one within 5 yards of him. - 2:44 just toasted his DB 1 vs 1 Weaknesses: - Measured in smaller than expected with only 8.5 inch hands - Not a natural hands catcher - Rumors of big time character concerns - Limited catch radius on poorly thrown balls - Basically non-existent contested catch ability or broken tackle ability Conclusion: If you draft Bond, you are drafting a shadow of Jaylen Waddle. Waddle was a top 10 pick and Bond you can get on day 2. Right now, Bond is a very limited receiver. His best uses are to send him deep or use him on crossers to try and get him an easy catch and some open space. But the speed is natural and effortless, I know other people had faster 40s than Bond, but I will take Bond in any foot race on the football field. Texas used him like they used Worthy last year and using him like the Chiefs did Worthy this year would be the best way to acclimate Bond to the NFL. -
TSW Mock 1.0 - The Cowboys (Doc Brown) are on the clock
LEBills replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall
Charger packers rams thanks Virgil!