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McCargo. This is getting freakin' ridiculous.

Davin Joseph. The run on the Guards begins.....

I don't, but at the same time I don't know that Whitner wouldn't have been available at the Bills 2nd pick. Two the the three QBs were on the board. The two best DTs were still on the board. The Bills were going to take a guy that was rated in the bottom third of the first round, at best. It's hard to believe that a savvy GM would have been able to engineer some kind of trade out of this situation. Especially since both QBs went in the next 3 picks.

It looks like this guy, on his own merits, is going to be a pretty good player, and we should be happy about that. But the Bills could have gotten him cheaper, and received extra picks to fill their remaining gaps. We would have been much better off if the Bills would have made the same deals that the Rams and Browns did to move down. When the 3rd rolls around, all of us here are going to wish the Bills an extra pick or two to pick up some wide bodies. Marv and co. missed a huge opportunity to pick up an extra player or two.

Exactly. I hope this guy turns out to be Ed Reed Jr., but the fact remains that Marv could have gotten him cheaper, and the Bills could have gotten more picks in a trade down. Both the Rams and Browns have just traded down. Those picks that they received would have looked pretty damn good for the Bills, especially if they got who they believe was the best safety left on the board.

And they're going to have to chase Guards, OTs, and DTs. Would have been nice to have an additional pick or two to do that, no? The Bills could have easily had an extra 3rd rounder to fill out the roster by making the same deal that Denver just made and still gotten Whitner.

You needed to underline "Overall, Whitner is probably going to slip lower in the draft than his production warrants, but it is due to his lack of size." Marv could have made the same deal Denver made with St. Louis, draft the undersized safety, saved money on the cap, and we would have been better off. This pick flat out SUUUUUCKS. It's freakin' amateur hour at OBD.

Denver just traded into the 11 spot. Mother F###en Marv!

Yeah, they both know Mularkey's "system."

This wouldn't provide the sponsor dollars you're looking for. The international companies like Ford or UPS would be OK with it, but the local sponsors like Wegmens and the ambulance chasers would only want to pay for sponsorship in Buffalo. That would mean more work for the Bills, trying to find local Toronto revenue to make up for the missing Buffalo revenue. And considering that the rates in Toronto would have to be higher to make up for the exchange rate, it's doubtful any gain could be made here. First of all, the Bills aren't going anywhere. Before long, every NFL owner will realize that the CBA and revenue sharing have to match. Even Snyder won't be willing to burn his local revenue every time a new stadium is opened. And second, there will never be an NFL team in Toronto or in Canada. Their stadium is too small for the NFL, the exchange rate is too great, and the Canadian TV market is too small to make a difference in the national TV package. The NFL will place a team in LA, Las Vegas, and maybe even San Antonio before even considering Toronto.

It's just about impossible for the Bills to draft Ngata and make a deal for Huff. And the Oline still needs two or three draft picks to continue its improvement. Price has to prove he's still a viable NFL player, because his last few seasons have been poor. It would be nice to have a fully-engaged, top-of-his-game Favre here, but he's peroformance and committment to the game has been spotty the last couple of seasons. It would be a big and unecessary risk for the team to take, much like the one they took on Bledsoe.

So I guess that the 13 losses in 2001 that the Bills needed to draft Mike Williams were worth it?

Cutting Favre doesn't really benefit the Packers at all. They're not taking a QB early, even if Favre does retire, so there's no impact on the draft. They don't need his salary to sign FAs, and they're not sure if Rogers is ready to play yet. They're going to be mediocre with Favre, and probably horrible with Rogers as the starter. At least with Favre starting, they can treat it as a farewell tour to keep the fans at bay while they continue to prepare Rogers for next season.

Yeah, and along with the extra 40 bucks per ticket, how about a couple of grand for PSLs. And practice, let's say we pay $15 for the right to watch this major league sports team practice. RWS is over 30 years old and hardly a suitable venue for a major league club. WNY taxpayers need to invest at least $400 million in a new stadium. Network TV is definitely bush league, time we step up and go total PPV. Boxing isn't half the sport football is, and they charge $50 for a matches that feature guys nobody has heard of. So how about $75 a game for the right to watch 12 minutes of action and 2 hours and 45 minutes of commercials. And this whole tradition thing is overrated too. Sure fathers and sons have spent hours together at Lambeau field, the Polo Grounds, and Texas Stadium, but they can easily create memories at Masengill Douche stadium, while the loud speakers blare Viagara commercials during each time out. After all, this is all for a good cause. Guys like Terrell Owens need to feed their families after all. Snyder and Jones really have this thing figured out; just turn each and every fan upside down, and shake them until all their money falls out of their pockets. Don't know why Ralph and Bills fans haven't jumped on board.

So what are they, 4.31 while Parrish is 4.37? When they get out on the field, it'll be difficult to tell the difference speed-wise. While both Smith and Moss are bigger than Parrish, they're still considered undersized by NFL standards. Good thing their front offices didn't cross them off the list because of their size.

Yeah and the Bills had Mouse McNally, hardly a lightweight as their O-line coach, and it didn't help Mularkey all that much. What facts do you have? Have you followed Mularkey's inept playcalling over the last couple of years? Do you know where the Bill ranked in red zone offense? Are you ready to watch Lemon or Berlin, or some other has-been throw passes on the 3 yard line with a 20 point lead? As for Culpepper, he's a 29 year-old QB with a blown-out knee. Players who have had the same injury say that it took two years for them to get back to 100%. By then he'll be 31. He's not exactly that young. And if his mobility is suspect when he comes back late this year, he could take a severe beating, which could limit his longevity. One of the original statments that I responded to, which you jumped in on, was that Saban doesn't make moves to "outsmart" the rest of the league. To me, trading for a QB with a blown-out knee and hiring a coach of the worst offense in NFL history does kind of seem that he's attempting to "outsmart" the league. I'd say that these moves could be considered "Donahoe-esque."

Yeah, why don't we add Santana Moss and Steve Smith to your undersize team. Those two guys REALLY suck!

Yes. One could say that thanks to McNabb, Owens was able to play in the SB (I doubt that's his take on it though).

Yeah, I get it, but it seems like there are too many factors that affect performance in college that any pure statistical analysis would be suspect. Danny Wurffel, Heath Shuler, and David Klingler are examples of great college QBs who flopped in the NFL, mostly because they were system QBs. You would need more than just PAR to get a good read on them. Vince Young this season is also a good example of where straight stats won't work. The bottom line with him is that if the team that drafts him tries to turn him into a pure pocket passer, he'll flop, regardless of the great numbers he put up at Texas. There's a leveling of talent in the NFL and a continuity of play calling schemes that makes PAR a more reliable stat. Needless to say, I'm not ready to buy the idea that the Bills should give up on Losman because a college kid's application of these stats.

No, but they definitely use the PAR system to rate every player. Sounds like this guy is applying their system to college players.

So this guy's rookie QB projection system is going to be included in this year's Pro Football Prospectus. I bought last year's Pro Football Prospectus, and here are the numbers that they predicted for JP in 2005: 60.1% completion pctg; 3086 yards; 20 TDs; 14 Ints. Not bad. Hardly a guy destined to become Trent Dilfer or Kerry Collins. Now they're predicting his career to be a bust. I guess all predictions are subject to hindsight. One season he's going to be a rising star, the next he's Trent Dilfer Jr. Anyway, I'd take this with a grain of salt. Drew Brees' PAR couldn't have been that high prior to the 2004 season.

Green Bay could be a national treasure, that doesn't mean that they'll be able to command the same revenue that DC and NYC can in PSLs, luxury suites, and naming rights. The Milwaukee metro market era is much closer to the Buffalo market than it is to a big market area.

If I'm chosing a franchise QB, I don't think I'd choose an aging vet with a blown-out knee. If Culpepper loses any mobility, he's Drew Bledsoe with a worse fumbling problem. If Mularkey had no QB and a crappy Oline with Buffalo, what's he going to do with Cleo Lemon and Brock Berlin, and a crappy OL in Miami? Did Saban hire him because he believes he'll be able to learn from his mistakes? He doesn't seem to bring much else to the job.

LA Late Arrivers (the LA LAs).

Who says that Green Bay is going to be able to survive the new CBA? Ticket prices are a small part of the issue. The Bills have had no trouble competing with their ticket pricing, with the revenue sharing that was put in place. Corporate money is the issue. Now that skybox, PSL, and naming right revenue is included in the salary cap, small markets are going to have to match that revenue in the larger markets to remain competitive. Ultimately, this deal doesn't mean that the Bills will have to move, but as the salary cap increases with each new deal Jones or Snyder makes, the Bills' payroll will fall farther below the cap. Signings like Spikes, Fletcher, Milloy, and Bledsoe will be a thing of the past, and they'll lose young guys like McGahee, Losman, and Evans when they play out their rookie contracts. In short, they'll be run a lot like the Sabres, Marlins, and A's are currently being run, which might not be a bad thing.