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BillsNYC

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  1. But if you had, let's say the 25th pick in the draft and LT is your priority and the top prospects are gone...would you rather use your pick and spend the money on a 50/50 prospect or on a player of Peter's caliber? Basically, do you give your millions to a potential bust or a young Pro Bowl LT that has top 5 potential when motivated?
  2. I wanted to separate the Parrish thread as there are two discussions going on in it, including one about Peters trade value and its a little confusing, and both are great topics that are unrelated. Tim Graham of ESPN stated in his chat yesterday that the Bills wouldn't get a first round pick in a trade for him, as there are likely 5 OTs that could be taken in the first round of the draft that teams could mold themselves. Also, Peters was undrafted and a converted TE which lowers his value. He's also disgruntled which hurts his value. I don't know if the Bills could get a first rounder or not, but want to discuss the opinion of what's more valuable, a first round talent or a proven talent as Mr. Graham brought up an interesting argument. Peters was an undrafted TE that was converted to RT then LT and we can probably say is a top 5 LT in the league when motivated. He is a two time Pro Bowler, probably only deserving it the first time. He also just turned 27 and is entering his prime and has only been playing the position for 3 years so there is more potential there. Question is, if you had a late first round pick would you take the 50/50 chance on a rookie and pay him big $, or would you rather use that pick on a proven player? When is a first round pick better to use on a proven player, and better to draft somebody? This isn't just about Peters, its a league wide question. Tom Brady was a late round pick, should that affect his trade value? Is he worth less than Peyton Manning taken first overall? Mr. Graham already viewed his opinion, so don't expect him to post in this thread as he has his own thread for questions, this is purely for discussion among us fans. This is his opinion stated in the Parrish thread: "What I tried to express in my chat was that I don't personally think Peters is worth a first-round pick when a team can use that pick to draft a franchise tackle because a few exist in this year's draft just like they did in last year's. I don't see why a team would take on a tackle who's coming off a shaky season when they can grab a younger player they can mold. Peters wants the type of money No. 1 overall pick Jake Long got, so why not just draft one yourself and pay him less? And, believe it or not, teams will look at where a player was drafted when considering trades. Even though Peters is a two-time Pro Bowler, he was an undrafted, converted tight end. Trade partners aren't going to bend over backwards to reward the Bills and take a headache off their hands at the same time. But it takes only one team to really, really want a player. Maybe the Bills will get a first-round pick for Peters, but he isn't worth it. And that's an opinion based on talking to people who happen to make trades and hammer out contracts for a living."
  3. Mularkey - "Hey Tom, I want to bring in a new S&C coach" Donahoe - "Isn't Rusty the best in the business?" Mularkey - "Yeah, but I'd rather bring in my drinking buddy" Donahoe - "Then let's do it, I feel like Rusty stabs me in the back and wants my GM job anyways"
  4. Graham also said Peters isn't worth a first rounder.
  5. Anna (Corning NY): If Jason Peters is not worth a 1st round pick, then what LT is?! SportsNation Tim Graham: (4:31 PM ET ) Jake Long, Ryan Clady, Jordan Gross, Joe Thomas.
  6. He sounds grumpy...must still be sick. Interesting: Jake ( Lancaster): What do the Bills get for Peters? How crazy is it to trade him when any team drafting #1 would gladly pay $11.5 million per year for a LT that turned out like him? SportsNation Tim Graham: (3:33 PM ET ) If the Dolphins had their choice between Jason Peters and Jake Long, I'm sure they still would have taken Long. Peters was an undrafted tight end the Bills happened to mold into a good tackle. I'm not sure what the Bills eventually will get, but I wouldn't expect a first-round pick.
  7. Sully chat on now http://buffalonews.typepad.com/sully_on_sports/
  8. Mark Gaughan: "So now it's time to consider the question: Will Maybin last until the Bills come up with the 11th pick in the NFL Draft?" http://blogs.buffalonews.com/billboard/
  9. Then Jauron said he was ready to go into the season with Anthony Thomas as the starter.
  10. Could be a 2nd rounder they're looking at.
  11. Was just remembering how when the Bills drafted Lynch, for months they claimed that they weren't going to draft a RB and didn't do much to bring in any free agent talent. They basically "ignored" the position prior to the draft, and I see a similar situation at Left Guard on how the Bills are addressing it. I'm wondering if saying Hangartner will be the center is a decoy and the Bills are going to go after a guy like Mack and slide Hangartner to guard to cover up their intentions.
  12. http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2009/3/19/...t-fit-nfl-draft I hate that we're likely going to use our #11 on a guy that fits a scheme that we may not have next year.
  13. Once the suspension comes down, I wonder if Jackson will be a no show in hopes of securing a better contract.
  14. If he can play all 3 interior spots he's somebody I bet the team is at least scouting.
  15. Two words..... Yasmine...Bleeth... http://www.mugshots.net/yasmine_bleeth/yasmine_bleeth.jpg
  16. Anybody know when his weekly chat is? Can't find it on Buffalonews.com
  17. It's like giving an alcoholic a case of Jack Daniels and the keys to a car, and after they get drunk and kill somebody saying "you weren't supposed to drink and drive!"
  18. Just ask Pinto Kenny.....goes every year.
  19. "The Bills always go after undersized linebackers....bet they draft this guy in 4 years! Let's throw it up there!"
  20. We've got the first part....for a year anyways.
  21. Here at the specials at McFadden's on Day 1 of the draft, just confirmed with the bar: Draft Party Drink Specials from 1-8pm on Saturday: $35 - All the draft beer you can drink and wings you can eat. $25 - All the Bud/Bud Lite draft you can drink and wings you can eat. $20 - All the pop you can drink and wings you can eat. $1 off all mixed drinks. Bar will be packed with Bills fans.
  22. I'm tired of all the Cutler and TO talk so was looking at some mock drafts and figured it'd be interesting to compare the top DEs in the draft (from what I've read) with the top 5 sack leaders in NFL history in regards to size. The old guys might be misleading as their weight fluctuated over the years, but looks to be bigger the better. Bruuuuce 6-4, 262lb Reggie White 6-5, 285lb Kevin Greene 6-3, 247lb (linebacker) Chris Doleman 6-5, 287lb Michael Strahan 6-5, 255lb Maybin 6-4, 248lb Brown 6-2, 256lb Orakpo 6-3, 263lb Jackson 6-4, 296lb English 6-3, 255lb I know nothing about the guys above, but thought it would spark conversation.
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