BuffaloHokie13

Bucky must be a member of this board. Check out #5 on his list of QB's

I'll take a stab here. My experience is obviously a bit different as I watched his entire college career as well, but I find this argument to be very lame. No QB who is drafted and doesn't start right away has done anything in the NFL. There are plenty of people here who think 14 games is too few to judge EJ, but condemn Tyrod for not starting any. Anyway, here's my points for why I have hope for Tyrod: - He has proven to be at least a reliable backup in a winning organization's eyes. Yes Flacco is an ironman, but the Ravens were comfortable enough with Tyrod that they only carried 2 QB's on the roster through his career. - He has an unending desire to prove himself. He left a cozy spot on the bench and a better offer for another backup job for a chance to start, and he's been fighting preconceived notions about his skillset since the draft. - He apparently did enough behind the scenes in Baltimore last year that his old OC tried to bring Tyrod along to Denver with him. - I know from college, there is a distinct level of excitement that he brings just from being under center. - He is the most comfortable QB using his athletic ability on the roster, and I believe he would fit very well in a scheme similar to what Roman used with Kaepernick. In the end, it seems that the FO is giving him his shot to show what he can do and it's up to him to do what he can with it. I have a lot of faith in his ability, but at the end of the day I will not be upset with any QB that plays well for the Bills.

Take a page out of the NBA's book. Make it flag football and mix in fans & celebrities

A friend bought me an insider subscription, but they didn't do an analysis on EJ in the article I pulled that from. It does say that he ranked 37th in 2013 (-19.9%) and 38th in 14 (-17.1%) FWIW. Based on the Geno Table that lines up best with Joey Harrington and Charlie Frye

I don't know if I trust anyone more to teach our young guys how to prepare and run routes in the NFL

I don't know what goes into DVOA for a QB, but I don't think ESPN likes Geno's outlook QBs Most Similar to Geno Smith by DVOA in First Two Years, 1989-2014 Player Years Y1 DVOA Y1 Rank Y2 DVOA Y2 Rank Geno Smith 2013-2014 -23.6% 40 -12.5% 31 Kyle Boller 2003-2004 -26.0% 41 -14.6% 28 Jake Locker 2012-2013* -23.6% 32 -5.7% 22 Tim Couch 1999-2000 -28.4% 44 -15.1% 34 Rick Mirer 1993-1994 -15.7% 33 -12.5% 34 Joey Harrington 2002-2003 -20.9% 42 -18.2% 39 Trent Dilfer 1994-1995 -31.0% 38 -11.3% 34 Charlie Frye 2005-2006 -21.4% 36 -18.9% 37 Billy Joe Tolliver 1989-1990 -21.4% 36 -5.9% 21 Steve Walsh 1989-1990 -20.6% 35 -5.9% 22 Jake Plummer 1997-1998 -17.7% 38 -8.4% 29 *Locker was a rookie in 2011; these are his first two seasons with 100 attempts.

It would explain why his first press conference basically boiled down to "I don't know, why don't you ask Tom?"

I'll take the under

TJ Yates actually did win his playoff game by the way If I remember correctly he beat Cincinnati to clinch the playoff berth and then beat them again in the playoffs.

Agreed, and widen the hashes a bit as well

then we trade up and draft Cardale Jones, because you should never not draft a qb

I don't know, but I already have my jersey

I would argue that anyone giving up on being a Pats* fan, regardless of reason, is smart, not dumb

That presser really took the air out of this story

Golson to FSU is official now BTW. I never meant to insinuate he was a good pro prospect, just that he'd have heisman consideration

I think that's the reasoning that he hadn't been listening to all along. Had to say something different to shake him up!

"Bob, man, you're entering Al Davis territory..." is probably all it took

Yeah, my question was more about when to take stats from, rather than the metrics themselves. Though there really aren't many metrics I like overall for comparing QB's because of the whole team factor.

if you were comparing apples to apples, wouldn't you use Geno and EJ's rookie win totals and team standing?

I wouldn't rule out San Fran, and call me crazy but I think Detroit may be looking soon as well

I think he got picked around the right place, and I don't think you're entirely out of line depending on how he progresses in the shadows this year, but I figured I'd ask. I figure if our division has been owned by a 6th round QB for the last 15 or so years you just never know

First I'd thoroughly enjoy a Tyrod vs. Flacco, Rex vs. Ravens playoff game.

Giving up on Bryce Petty already Yolo?

He didn't prepare the offseason that he got drafted? And surely he got some 1st team reps in practice. I know Tyrod said in an interview there were weeks where he took 40% of the 1st team reps.

I'm going to give my opinion about your opinion, and then have you on the radio for an interview so we can bounce our opinions off each other, okay?