Chuck Wagon

Up to 5?! That's a big jump.... Broncos going to scare the Browns into Trub at 1 or trying to get McCaffery

Probably 1st and 2nd this year and 1st next year. Pick 10 is 1,200 points, pick 31 is 600 points, pick 63 is 276, there's some deflation on future picks. Barnett / Riddick / Hooker / Lattimore

Maybe if we move down twice, but I can't imagine them having enough to go from 31 to 10 (unless we are talking next years 1st and 3rd / 4th).

Sure, but I would have to imagine every team in the top 8 is holding them over the barrel on any sort of trade up. Forcing them to take Trub at #2 pushes talent down the board for everyone, if you are a team like San Fran why wouldn't you hold every gun to their head knowing them taking Trub gives you Garrett. Chicago is said to love Adams but likely knows San Fran takes him if Garrett goes #1. I can't imagine the Browns paying the likely exorbitant price on moving up right now, they value picks way too much.

Teams traded up for a guard, a tackle and a linebacker in the top 36 picks last year. The Giants have said they want to trade up, they aren't going after a QB.

If he's there......

Teams are calling us because there's a chance Lattimore / Howard / Hooker are sitting there at 10 and know they are better prospects than the guys in the late teens / early 20s. Teams are also calling because everyone is calling each other right now, I'm sure we are making plenty of calls on potentially moving up or down. You don't just call someone cold if the guy you really want is sitting at 7, teams are talking to each other all the time right now.

Different scheme, different regime, different value on the player.

Move down and take Mahomes, have the ammo to move from 44 to the mid-late 20s and get one of Davis / Williams / Ross and still walk out with an extra 2nd, 3rd or high 4th would be my dream scenario.

MLB is too important in McD's D to leave it up to Ragland and Preston Brown. I'm calling Foster as our pick. I could see Ragland being dealt for a 3rd / 4th round pick this weekend, or his future as a guy who plays some SAM and some with his hand in the dirt at DE. I think Preston is going to be viewed as a backup.

1. Mike Williams : Ravens 2. Corey Davis : Cardinals 3. Malik Hooker : Chargers 4. OJ Howard : Saints 5 Mitch Trubisky : Browns Bills Pick (bonus) : Foster

Well if there's one franchise in the league that thinks it could create some benefit out of smokescreening the first pick in the draft, it's the Browns. I think there's legit division in the building between Garrett and Trub and the pro Garrett camp is running to the media in hopes creating backlash pre-draft will sway the other side. And I think it's the camp that actually makes the decisions that's pro Trub. Paying the picks to go from 12 to top 5 runs counter to everything the Browns have done to this point. You are talking about 12, 33 and later picks likely at a minimum, if not next years #1. I believe the pro Trub camp looks at it as they can take Trub #1 and still get impact defensive players at 12 and 33.

McGinn annually crushes guys like Kiper and McShay when it comes to the mock. I think the Browns are actually going to do it and take Trub #1. They value picks way too much to pay the price to move up from 12 to 5 (or higher) to make sure they get him and Garrett. I think they'll take Trub knowing they can likely get solid defensive talent at 12 and 33. If Trub goes #1, I believe there is going to be a rush on San Fran's #2 pick and they'll sell to the highest bidder. I'd have to believe Tennessee is in the best position to make an aggressive offer to go from 5 to 2 and San Fran still is likely looking at Adams or Thomas, after dropping to 5 (aka the guy they've been thinking they'll get for months). If he lasts to 3, it sounds like the Bears are going Adams and the Jags are going Fournette, outside of Trub going #1, the Jets are the major wildcard. There's speculation they need so much that they won't take a QB and will instead give Hack his shot behind McCown. I could see that being another trade spot if Carolina wants to get above the Chargers to get McCaffery. They also badly need a corner and could go Lattimore (they certainly have a history of taking OSU guys). I think Trub / Garrett / Adams / Thomas / Fournette / McCaffery are all certainly off the board before pick 10. It could leave us in a position where we take whoever is left between Hooker / Howard / Lattimore.

I'm not impressed with Perine. I think he feasted against some bad Ds, but OSU bottled him up pretty easily. Mixon, on the other hand, put the fear of god in whenever he touched the ball.

The guys who have been there 15+ years then get shown the door with a 3 minute meeting is just brutal. The Ringer (clearly biased of course) and a little piece about when Howie Schwab (Stump the Schwab) was laid off a few years ago. He had been there for 23 years. He talked about how management had left him in limbo for months, refusing to answer any questions. Basically, the people being let go today aren't having a bad day, this is the end of bad months for them.

So basically there's supposed interest in Thomas / Howard / Lattimore / Davis / Ross / Mike Williams. Thomas is almost guaranteed to be gone. Howard and Lattimore might be on the board but leaning towards likely gone. Which leaves the 3 WRs, assuming they have them all pretty closely evaluated and all 3 are still there at 10 they should move back into the 15-18 range and take who ever is left.

Well they can't talk to themselves, so that leaves 2 teams, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess there's been conversations with them as well.

Because if we tell them we aren't taking him they have no incentive to trade up at all. I'd rather them move up to get him so it knocks another player down to us.

I'm ready for the Browns to take Watson #1, then get asked about Trubisky and reply "We didn't want to tip our hand on the guy we really wanted." That's the most Browns thing that could happen.

I'm so excited for the Browns taking Watson #1 overall. #successfulsmokescreen #analytics

Good riddance Danny Kannell.

No kidding. What a ridiculous take. "You can't possibly play 2 tight ends who are both receiving treats, one must just be an extra offensive lineman!" For those who have trouble thinking outside of the box, just think of Howard in a Gronk role (a more traditional inline TE) and Clay in a Hernandez role (playing some traditional TE, lining up a FB occasionally, slot some). I will never understand why people have such violent "This is the one way a NFL offense is supposed to look, it can only look this way" takes on personnel. We easily have a more talented Oline than the Pats do, but they have a QB who knows where to get the ball to quickly and can blow ours away when it comes to reading defenses.

Well, Alex Smith is at a point where we know what he is, he's not going to lose you games but he's certainly not going to risk winning them for you either. It wasn't that long ago Houston was picking #1 overall, so I hardly think they qualify as a team just spinning it's wheels "too good to find a QB", they gambled on Brock last year, it busted, they pulled the plug and are starting over. I think they are easily in a better position to groom a young QB than we are and we too are too good to get the top QB prospects. Good teams or teams that built good teams around young QBs quickly (Seattle / Oakland / Dallas) have been the ones to find the later drafted "franchise" QBs lately and we've not been in a position to draft a guy like Luck / Jameis / Cam for over 30 years. I'd have to believe that KC and Houston are in a much better position to find a franchise QB than we are, despite the difference of 10 draft picks or so. Even our last "franchise" QB came into a team that had a great RB, a great WR, a strong Oline and a good defense. If you fail at all the other areas of building a good team, you aren't going to succeed at finding a QB who changes everything.

I like Bucky Brooks' take on the QB position. Basically a guy starts out as a trailer, he needs to be pulled along by the rest of the team and put in a position to succeed, with talent around him and proper coaching. Eventually he flips to a truck, able to pull the rest of the team along with him. Big Ben, Wilson, Brady, Romo were all examples of guys who were put into positions to succeed, able to grow in a successful environment until he became a "franchise" guy. Occasionally you get the Mannings / Lucks / Cams who are just THAT good the rest of the stuff doesn't matter that much, but those guys go #1 overall whenever they pop up. I think the continual failings of franchises like us, Cleveland, Jacksonville etc to find a franchise QB have much less to do with failures in evaluation and much more to do with failures to put the proper coaching and talent into place. Our current coaching doesn't exactly come with a track record of QB development and I don't believe our receiver talent is up to the level to allow a QB to succeed, not to mention our defense last year wasn't good enough to win games for a young QB. That worries me in regards to taking one of these guys, especially at #10 overall. Tyrod has his warts, but he's largely viewed as a top 20 ish QB around the league, if we aren't able to build a team that allows him to succeed, we certainly aren't going to allow a young QB to succeed. Just last year, did everyone miss that badly on Dak vs Goff, or was one put in a much better position?

Just going to say it now, but I think 3 QBs go top 6. There's starting to be A LOT of smoke about the Browns actually going with Trub #1, the 49ers and Jacksonville have flirted around with QBs and the Jets are such a wildcard, not to mention Tennessee being very open on moving down. I wouldn't be shocked to see Trub - 1 / Watson 2-4 / Mahomes - 6, which could be great for us if it removes the temptation and pushes a guy down the board.