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Beat the Jets and Colts, beat the Pats twice and go 2-3 in the other 5 games that that would very likely mean a division crown as New England would have to run the table in their other games to beat us out.

Denver Given their QB situation and our H2H advantage over them I can't see them being a factor on us if we get to 10 or 11 wins. Would rather knock down KC's pick as much as possible, I'm not sure I see anyone in their division edging them out, but when we win the East and a bye it would be nice to see the Pats knock them out in the wild card round before we curb stomp Brady and Co in the Ralph in the playoffs.

Enjoy and talk about it all you want. Just don't thump your chest about a sure playoff performance or preseason predictions. We've been Charlie Browned before as fans.

2008 we started 5-1. 2011 we started 5-2. Let's finish this off before we talk too much.

Boldin can claim he quit for activism, but it's pretty obvious he quit on us because he didn't think the team would be good. It was days after the Watkins trade. No one else wanted him offseason, if some team is willing to give us a pick then by all means I wish him the best, but absent that I really hope we play hardball and don't let him join a team like the Pats or Steelers.

Agree with both posts. I really think the playoffs come down to the Raiders / Chargers / Dolphins games. Win all of those and it puts us at 8 wins with huge tiebreaker wins over a few other teams who could be looking at a wildcard with us. Or we just beat the Pats twice, get to 11 wins and win the whole dang thing.

Next 4 games are huge. All "winnable", a 3-1 run puts us at 7-3 coming down the stretch, feels like 10-6 gets us in the playoffs, especially if we have the H2H advantage over Denver & Miami. This game against Oakland is HUGE, could all but knock them out when it comes down to them vs us.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/usc/la-sp-usc-ucla-juju-smith-20141117-story.html#page=1 So honoring his step father who introduced him to football and treated him like his own son makes a guy untrustworthy?

Please. The snowflakes that aren't watching because of the anthem are a drop in the bucket. It has much more to do with terrible matchups, the slog that is watching only 1 game due to commercials and stoppages and over saturation of the product. Redzone is readily available now and is a way better product than what they've done to the flow of singular games, I know I can't be the only one that can't stomach a primetime game after the 7 hour barrage of no commercials and constant action.

Passing on Wentz and Watson is strike 1, but strike 2 and 3 was taking Kessler and Kizer in round 3 & 2 in the same drafts. That shows a fundamental failure to assess the prospects available.

Wentz and Watson are going to make sure the Browns current braintrust never comes near running a team again. I expect Haslam to hit the total reset again after this year.

The one major positive I see in our matchup with them. In the past it's seemed every time we feel like it's rolling and they might be vulnerable, they cram it right down our throats with a power back we can't tackle and it's a demoralizing loss. With Gillislee as their "power" back, I don't think their offense is capable of that anymore. They are still capable of the annoying "get them in 3rd and 6 yet they find a way to move the chains" type of drives, but it looks like the backbreaking physical element of their offense is not there. Gronk as a late scratch on a short week certainly didn't help matters. Tampa's safeties were both hurt. Last night was the type of game where a healthy Gronk and the vertical element in the middle of the field would have likely meant touchdowns instead of field goals and Jameis was off his game enough there would have been balls up for grabs, potentially turning it into a 38-13 type of game.

He did? During the 2nd and 3rd Quarters he looked like the best QB in football... Watch redzone one afternoon, kickers and head coaches managing the game are the difference between a 11-5 team and a 5-11 team.

I'll gladly eat crow. I thought we had a chance to make the Denver game interesting, I didn't think there would be any way the Falcons game was close. These next 4 games are huge, all look winnable, especially if we get EJ instead of Carr in a couple of weeks. 7-1 or 6-2 is not out of the question.

Huge distinction between 3rd and 5th... The implication in your post seems to be teams drafting in the top 3 who take a QB stay bad, those two guys were drafted onto "bad" teams. Really I don't know what you are trying to say, but RG3's career was ruined by injury, Bortles was a reach and everyone knew it, Goff the jury is still out on but he's turning it around, but Cam / Luck / Winston / Mariota / Wentz all very much look the part and are better than anything we've had on the field since #12 walked off it for the last time, regardless of what their win % or playoff appearances currently state.

The Cowboys and Raiders were picking in the top 5 when they got Dak & Carr...

Yep. I have no idea if the salary cap would allow it, and there's still time in the season, but they should have traded Shady / Tyrod / Matthews / Richie / Wood / Dareus / Kyle Williams / Hughes if they could get any sort of decent draft pick. They had no business signing guys like Holmes, Duccasse, Hauska (yeah, all you "blah blah comp picks" idiots, picks in the 3rd and 4th round matter and aren't worth the difference going down a tier from those players). Everything about the organization should be about finding cheap young players who can play, giving guys an opportunity, and accumulating as many draft picks as possible. Instead they have one foot into rebuilding and one foot making sure they won't be tied to 2-14 type seasons, and ultimately it comes down to Pegula giving the green light, if not encouraging being that bad, but he won't do it. Few if any owners have the stomach to willingly sign up for 1-15 / 2-14 type seasons, the Browns are the closest to it and people are crazy if they don't think Hue and Sashi aren't going to be on VERY thin ice if they turn in another 1-15 season and come out of it without a true answer at QB. We don't have the stomach for it as an organization, instead we are going to be back to the Jauron 6-10 / 7-9 boring old Bills.

They'll be around a 7-9 team, because they are the Rams. Washington dominated them before the Rams got back in it a bit. The 49ers made several huge errors (the Hoyer opening pick and the muffed Fumble were free points) and the Colts are the worst team in the league.

Not to mention letting Hogan walk the year before. At this point it's pretty clear just how much talent Whaley was able to acquire that went to complete waste because Pegula got caught up in Rex's flash instead of hiring an offensive head coach and making Schwartz the highest paid DC in football. The Kool-aid drinkers can shovel all the BS they want about "players who want to win" but since Mc. D / Beane took over the team has bled a ton of talent, we won 17 games the past two years despite a coach who knew very little about game management and who ran a special defensive scheme that didn't fit our talent and the league had figured out a long time ago.

I'd trade White and the Chiefs 1st round pick this year for Patrick Mahomes....

Not to throw cold water or be a debbie downer, but I really think people are vastly overrating the defense. This Panthers team is not anything special and Cam is a shell of the player he was two years ago. If Luck comes back healthy anytime soon, I think the only games left we'll be close to being a remote favorite in is @ Bengals and @ Jets, both road games obviously. I really don't see what others have the first two weeks to be throwing out 9-10 win seasons.

If Tyrod hit him in stride he walks into the endzone, he burnt the corner and the safety would have been late in getting over.

I don't think there's anything I hate more than one fan telling another how to be a fan. Complaining about people whining is like complaining about what's on ESPN. Turn the channel or don't read it.

We lost 2-3 plays AT LEAST on the final drive. It didn't really matter because we couldn't convert a 4th and 10, but the clock management was bad.

Tyrod hits him in stride and he's walking in for the game winner. Major breakdown by the Panthers and Tyrod couldn't take advantage.