Mojo44

The tantrum like nature of your initial posts and subsequent posts are empirical data. Also, there is plenty of empirical data on Rosen available. I’ll be happy if the bills get him. By the way, I have a PhD in a scientific field and have published research studies in scientifically refereed journals. I know what empirical data is!

I’m not debating this at all. All I am saying is that the general consensus is Barkley is the best player in the draft and, while old, the Giants have a franchise quarterback. I don’t know if they will take Barkley or not. I hope they do. My only point is that Barkley is considered quite unique as far as running backs are concerned.

The only problem with this line of thinking, which is usually the case, is that Barkley is considered “generational“, literally a “franchise running back”. He is seen as markedly better than any other RB in this draft.

And for that, we thank you.

In that scenario I can’t believe they would take Allen over Rosen.

Well, that’s that. Don’t even have to watch the actual draft tomorrow. Not only that, I don’t even have to wait for the pick at number 22. I can get back to the Yankee game!

This is pretty much Mayock’s take on Allen which is why he has him so highly rated despite his college stats.

I’m actually not sure if you’re calling me lazy or not. If not OK. If so, insult not necessary. You know all of this. Allen is intelligent, dedicated, hard-working, apparently willing to put all the work to improve all of his areas that need improvement. That’s why there is more to him than that. Not just all the amazing physical stuff. Let it be quite clear. He is not my top pick. I’ve already stated that. That was all I was saying. And I stick with my opinion, if he is there at 12 and the other three are gone I think we should take him.

There is more to him than that. That’s why, in my opinion legitimately, he seems to have a high ceiling but clearly a high bust potential. Only at 12 if he is there then I’m OK with it. If they move up I hope it’s Rosen or Darnold. No move up for Mayfield for me.

Non existent.

I agree. They definitely bought some time getting us into the playoffs.

Well, whatever else you can say about him he has certainly fashioned himself a nice career. If I had known this years ago I could have saved a lot of time and money by not going to graduate school for five years and becoming a well paid draft guru. So what if I wasn’t very good at it?

Why stop at four?

This would seem to be the correct answer to me.

Darnold or Rosen are worth the trade up. Not Mayfield or Allen. BTW I am seeing many mock drafts where three of the top for quarterbacks in the draft go to the AFC East. If the Pats* choose one in the first then it will be four AFC East quarterbacks in the first round. I wonder if that has ever happened before.

Speaking of trading up, has anyone else seen Chad Reuter’s most recent mock on NFL. com? I would love it because the bills trade up to number five and get Darnold with the Browns taking Allen, the Jets Mayfield and the phins move up to 6 and Rosen. Three new quarterback’s in the AFC East! To me the only two quarterbacks worth trading up for are Darnold or Rosen. If the bills can’t get that done then just stay with 12 and 22 and let the chips fall where they may. The other two are way too high risk for me.

The 2018 season and “the future” are not mutually exclusive concepts. It’s quite possible to plan for both.

The Colts drafting a quarterback would be earth shattering news. That would mean that they think Luck is a dead duck. Changes everything. However, I haven’t heard one little peep of information along these lines. At this point, I find this to be very unlikely. But, who knows?

His mobility in the pocket is considered the best among the top for quarterbacks. There’s mobility and then there is “mobility”

I’ll see this for Beane. He is as good as Mueller at playing it close to the vest. I honestly believe nobody, including us posters and all the “experts” have a clue as to what the bills are going to do and who they might be targeting as a quarterback in the first round. For me, the only two quarterbacks worth trading up for are Darnold and Rosen. Allen is number 3.I know I’m in the minority but I just don’t get all the love for Mayfield. To me of the top four he’s the biggest bust risk.

IMO The OP is overthinking things here. It’s just a “feeling“ like everyone else’s feelings and opinions about this draft. Everybody is talking to everybody! Let’s just see what happens. Because whatever happens, some of us will feel good about it and some of us are going to hate it.

Yet another drop in the ocean as far as opinions about these quarterbacks are concerned. They just keep coming. And it’s always somebody different! To me that says a lot about all of this.

I don’t mind the post itself. He’s entitled to his own opinion regardless of how poorly stated. What I don’t like is that it’s a thread starter. You have to do better than that when you start a thread.

The team will be better simply because whoever starts at quarterback will be much better than the crap we had for the last two years!

10 or more wins is a good possibility. I expect the team to be better overall. But, more importantly, whoever starts at quarterback will be better than the trash we had for the past two years! Therein lies the difference.