Mojo44

Darnold or Rosen are worth the trade up. Not Mayfield or Allen. BTW I am seeing many mock drafts where three of the top for quarterbacks in the draft go to the AFC East. If the Pats* choose one in the first then it will be four AFC East quarterbacks in the first round. I wonder if that has ever happened before.

Speaking of trading up, has anyone else seen Chad Reuter’s most recent mock on NFL. com? I would love it because the bills trade up to number five and get Darnold with the Browns taking Allen, the Jets Mayfield and the phins move up to 6 and Rosen. Three new quarterback’s in the AFC East! To me the only two quarterbacks worth trading up for are Darnold or Rosen. If the bills can’t get that done then just stay with 12 and 22 and let the chips fall where they may. The other two are way too high risk for me.

The 2018 season and “the future” are not mutually exclusive concepts. It’s quite possible to plan for both.

The Colts drafting a quarterback would be earth shattering news. That would mean that they think Luck is a dead duck. Changes everything. However, I haven’t heard one little peep of information along these lines. At this point, I find this to be very unlikely. But, who knows?

His mobility in the pocket is considered the best among the top for quarterbacks. There’s mobility and then there is “mobility”

I’ll see this for Beane. He is as good as Mueller at playing it close to the vest. I honestly believe nobody, including us posters and all the “experts” have a clue as to what the bills are going to do and who they might be targeting as a quarterback in the first round. For me, the only two quarterbacks worth trading up for are Darnold and Rosen. Allen is number 3.I know I’m in the minority but I just don’t get all the love for Mayfield. To me of the top four he’s the biggest bust risk.

IMO The OP is overthinking things here. It’s just a “feeling“ like everyone else’s feelings and opinions about this draft. Everybody is talking to everybody! Let’s just see what happens. Because whatever happens, some of us will feel good about it and some of us are going to hate it.

Yet another drop in the ocean as far as opinions about these quarterbacks are concerned. They just keep coming. And it’s always somebody different! To me that says a lot about all of this.

I don’t mind the post itself. He’s entitled to his own opinion regardless of how poorly stated. What I don’t like is that it’s a thread starter. You have to do better than that when you start a thread.

The team will be better simply because whoever starts at quarterback will be much better than the crap we had for the last two years!

10 or more wins is a good possibility. I expect the team to be better overall. But, more importantly, whoever starts at quarterback will be better than the trash we had for the past two years! Therein lies the difference.

Only at number 12 and that’s if Rosen is not there.Too many question marks about him, not the least of which is his height To me he is, by far, the most overrated of the top four. Would rather the bills not get him but I’ll support it if they do.

Taylor could not win games. That’s all there is. This is the third time I’ve made this point in various threads. Remember the last five games of the season when the bills made that awesome push to the playoffs. Taylor could not lead this team to even one touchdown in the fourth quarter. In a nutshell that says it all! We know for an absolute fact that Taylor, as an NFL quarterback, was crap. AJ is an unknown who has flashed some good stuff. Ipso facto, you cannot say with any certainty that AJ is a downgrade. And given just how crappy Taylor was, it’s more likely than not that he is an upgrade. Get it?

I agree to a point. Wins is not the only “metric” that is significant in quarterback. However, in my opinion, it’s way ahead of whatever is in second place. To me, Taylor is the perfect example of this. He had nice metrics but he could not win games in situations when it was on his back to do so. You don’t get to the Super Bowl by leading the league in completion percentage, Touchdown passes or arm strength. You get there by winning games. If the bills had even a decent quarterback last season, particularly during those last five games, they end up with ten or more wins. I really think it bears repeating here, for the last five games of the 2017 season Taylor was in capable of leading the team to even one touchdown! Despite his “metrics” he was crap. By far, in team sports, the quarterback position is the most important in terms of winning games. In the past are used to think a distant second was a starting pitcher in baseball never finishes games and a distant third was a point guard in basketball. However, I’ve come to the conclusion that the closest second, which is still distant, is the goalie in hockey.

Lost all credibility for me once they said AJ is a downgrade from Taylor. Give me a break!

There is most definitely a correlation. People always with. Two Tyrod taylor’s “great stats“ but the truth is, he was a crappy quarterback because he could not win games when it was up to him to do so. What was it, during the last five games of that awesome push for the playoffs he couldn’t leave the team to one single touchdown in the fourth quarter. We made the playoffs because of our defense in those games.

If this scenario plays out, which I think is extremely unlikely, then the bills must think that AJ is their franchise guy. There could be no other Explanation. I would love a shot at Anthony Miller. I did watch Memphis play several times and got to see them both. Memphis happens to be my graduate school alma mater.

It took long enough but I am finally at peace with this draft season and, in particular, the whole quarterback thing. Whether they trade up or not, whether they get one of the “top four” I will sit back and enjoy the ride. My personal favorite is Darnold. There is something about him, when all is said and done, that makes me see a “franchise quarterback”. However, even if they get Mayfield, who I like a lot less than many other posters here, I will be happy. On the other hand, I’m not so sure how I would feel if they end up with either Jackson or Rudolf. But I suppose I would just get used to it and go with that flow, too.

A lot of “hand off” passes in a system geared towards a high completion percentage.Not saying Mayfield isn’t a good prospect, but that statistic,in my opinion, is quite misleading.I would absolutely take Rosen over Mayfield.

60.1% completion percentage in college. Make what you will of it.

For a long time Cosell has been, by far, my favorite player evaluator. This is particularly the case with evaluating quarterbacks. What he did say about Rosen Does not write anything down in stone for me.But it makes me like Rosen even more and I would be very happy if the bills got him.

The OP put out a real good post and I thank him for that. It makes it even easier for me to not even care which of the, Hopefully, top for quarterbacks we get. At least we got a shot at a good one.

Yeah, I have no idea where Siri came up with “drop pigs”

I disagree. The flaws of all of these quarterbacks have clearly been noted for a long time. Also, Andrew luck is the ideal benchmark to compare the current crop too. None of them are as a sure thing as he was. This is not 1983. Actually, probably far from it. The odds are that none of these quarterbacks will pan out. But, the bills need one and it’s a calculated risk. I’ll support whatever they do as a fan. However my preference is that they don’t waste drop pigs in trade up on one of these risky prospects.

I agree, he really isn’t that bad overall and does seem to play poorly against the Bills. I guess I was just surprised to see such a high rating for him because even at his best he’s kind of just “OK”.