Mojo44

This is an interesting discussion. I just have one question regarding the topic. Who is that one player who will move the needle so far up that would be worth using up most of our draft capital for? Essentially the question becomes who is that one player who will put us in the Super Bowl? I don’t see it. Pitts is clearly special but I don’t think he is that guy. I believe we need a CB but we can wait until pick 30 and get a good one. I may be wrong but I don’t see a defensive player worth trading up for. Staying put or trading down I can see. Thoughts?

Talent actualized takes you to a Super Bowl. Clowney clearly hasn’t done that!

High risk signing for certain. Especially at that amount. Glad we passed. Don’t get the attraction.

Same here. Not to mention the many great times I had after midnight that I can’t remember!

Please read my subsequent post to the one you quoted. With respect, which you said here has no logic. Is measurable’s are quite good and his tape was also very good. If a scout gives him a second round grade they’re not going to knock that down because his brother didn’t pan out even if he had similar measurable‘s. There is simply no predictive value in that kind of illogic. Frankly, I have no clue why you mention Goodwin Or Nassib which is even more irrelevant to the topic. Let me just state again as basically as I can: an NFL scout will not put the kibosh on a player because of what some other player did or didn’t do. A player is a evaluated on his own merits and nothing more

OK, short and sweet here. It may be basic human nature but it’s not part of what an NFL scout does. It’s not a scout skill set. Any scout with a modicum of competence will not put the kibosh on a prospect because of what some other guy did or didn’t do. Don’t confuse the opinions and leanings of the man on the street with an NFL scout who has a job to do. So I actually do disagree quite strongly with the believe that an NFL team would not draft this person based on how they assess his overall skill level because of what his brother did.

OK, check this scenario out. Scouts go to his pro day and he checks high and every single box. Based on your evaluation he’s got a second round grade. This includes not only his athletic ability but his intelligence and his motivation to continue to improve. And then you think to yourself, wait a minute, his brother was a good athlete and didn’t pan out. So we better not draft him. On the face of it this scenario is ridiculous as far as any scouts coming to that conclusion. Fans, on the other hand, so what?

No, it is irrelevant because their individual players with different skill sets and different mentalities. Here’s one example of many in the history of sports. Tommy Aaron was a decent major league ball player. His brother was Hank. And remember, the bills second round pick is essentially a high third round pick. So I guess we agree to disagree on how good this guy can be. I like him a lot. And, full disclosure here, it’s been many years since I made an effort to be knowledgeable about college players coming out of the draft. But, as a Syracuse fan living in the area, I got to see him quite a bit. His growth has been remarkable since he has been playing.

He won’t last until the third round. And anything about his brother is completely irrelevant to this topic. I’d love it if he was there for the Bills in the second.

Sad to say, at least for the foreseeable future this won’t happen. By the way, not to be snarky or anything, but I am a doctor and I have treated patients in my community for 40 years. So like you I understand how the system works. But I’m in Central new York and for all I know hi Mark treats their folks pretty well. And, the name is growing on me.😁

I totally get that. I just disagree with it. This is money better spent on their customers to lower premiums and expand care. That’s my point.

It’s a fine name, I suppose. But I’m not comfortable with the idea of a health insurance company spending a lot of money on something like this.

Yes, yes it is. Very very nice!

I think this would be a good move for Cincinnati. There are a lot of good tackles in the draft but there is only one Pitts.

Will some of you kindly stop reminding me of our many past draft blunders. McCargo! Troup! Maybin! Whitner! Ko Simpson!, etc. I was having a nice morning and now I am a little nauseous.

I liked him when he first started out. He was fresh, entertaining and insightful. Now he is all annoying schtick.

This is a good question. Either way, I think he’s going to be a lot more of a situational player than some here think. It would be nice if he could play special teams, particularly the gunner on the punt team. But I doubt this is the case

I’m all in on this. Superior speed and shiftiness for a bargain. But if Harris fell to us at 30 and Beane took him, I’d be OK with that. I think he is a special runner compared to anyone else in the draft. I think he can change an offense. Etienne clones, on the other hand can be found in the lower rounds.

That could be the case. He missed a lot of last season because of the quintessential “lower body injury”. Before that he seem to be pretty durable. And as far as I know he is 100% right now.

Interesting rundown but I am surprised that Andre Cisco didn’t make the top 100.

Azeez Ojulari at 30. Could be a Von Miller clone. Discuss....

The importance of special-teams has nothing to do with the amount of snaps taken relative to the office and the defense whatsoever. It has to do with the impact special teams have on the game. There are more than a few games when the importance of special-teams is more than 1/3. Other games it’s much less. But you can’t underestimate the importance. Two or three special teams plays in a game can have more than 1/3 effect on the outcome. To me this is basic football and not particularly debatable which renders the premise of this thread null and void.

It was just one player. An important one at that!

It’s a truism

I will now cringe a little less when Josh gets hit. This is a great move for the team and MT. A serious upgrade!!