Billsfan1972

Simply put a properly executed squib or kick to the 5-10 yard line and only maybe and a big maybe a hail Mary beats the Bills.

No it wouldn't have been in that cold. Doesn't matter, it's over....

They went 44.... Is the FG good from 57????

Farwell looks after all aspects of ST. The one there can be no issues with is kick coverage, with the longest return all year being 31 yards and an average under 18. Squib or Pop-up (the two I wanted and all numbers pointed too with the clock running) or through the endzone. I find it unfathomable that they were not on the same page. The call was to kick it deep. Some say Bass kicked it too long, which as I pointed out in the first post was wrong, reviewing every kick. I then made the argument that the better options had a much higher probability of success. To say it was miscommunication is next to impossible to believe, because that is the kickers one and only job (kick it as told to by the coach (left, right, down the middle, through the endzone).

Yes but the game would have been over for 5 seconds as that took 18 seconds to go 49 yards vs. 45 yards Sunday!!!!!! You buried the lead......

It's the "Coaching Cone of Silence"..... Going back to MCM, I will never for a second think it was Wade Phillips decision to start Rob Johnson that game (and worse yet, not yank him when he was so putrid". That was all Ralph Wilson (and will be taken to the grave).

That happened twice Sunday and I was screaming at the TV (and people at my place) as to how stupid those calls were. Both times the Bills had gotten 6-8 yards on 1st down & and each time stubbornly ran the ball and did not convert). But these are the little things I thought I'd be complaining about if there was a loss. KC could argue that Reid got cute on their 3rd & 1 at the 11, lining up a TE at QB. 13 F'ing second brain fart......

And I heard from a source, that Frazier said "Don't worry about big chunks down the middle of the field or defending Hill or Kelsey, protect the sideline out pattern"😜

It's simple the coaches job was not to allow KC past the 50 yard with 13 seconds left in the game. Analytics says you make them return it (as I shouting at the TV and am no coach). When that didn't happen, the defence's job from the KC 25 yard line again is not allow them to advance the ball more then 25 yards in 2 plays. They failed there too. That is on MCD (the self appointed most prepared coach in the NFL). Epic Fail!!!!!

No I was not wrong. There was a 44 yard return, which would have been an on-side kick. I posted it off Footballdatabase and counted every kick. All TDs were 98-102. Bass was kicking them all year when the Bills called for it to the 5-10 yard line (probably not the wind game). The Bills ranked 3rd in average yards allowed on kickoffs too. Longest return was 31 yards this year. I've done the math in other threads. As for Christie, that was a lousy kick that was fielded at the 30 yard line. A squib should be going to at least the 10-15 yard line and pop up to the 5-10.

So many..... I have commented on the kickoff, because I am not a defensive guru, but seems obvious there were many things botched up there. As for burning 13 seconds and not allowing KC to get to the 32 yard line, I was screaming at the TV (like Romo too said on the telecast) to make KC return the kick and take seconds off the clock. To me that was a major mistake. A kick to the 5 yard line would have burned a minimum of 4-5 seconds (with a 20 yard return). With 9 seconds and I don't see them getting beyond the Buffalo 45 yard line and that still I think is a stretch.

13 seconds. No way they were getting further. Colossal fail on so many counts, but started with the kickoff.

Mistake after mistake after mistake. However they went 43 yards in 10 seconds. 43 yards from the 10 yard line if a fair catch (I'd have it closer to the 5), means a 60 yard FG.

A fair catch at the 5-10 yard line means an extra 5-20 yards. That happens and only a hail mary wins them the game. Think about it, there is no fair catch if kicked shallow.... Bass was proficient at kicks like that all season with his 3-4 step approach.

My view is that it was.... There were a # of options to get through 13 seconds, which should have been simple. Statistical odds already have proven/shown a squib/short kick was the best option. This thread was pointing out that Bass planned to kick it out of the endzone for a touchback (whether someone forgot to tell him to do different is another debate, but he definitely wanted to get a touchback), and that every stat points to it being the better call and that the Bill defence on those short kicks was # 3 in the league. Every second counted. This isn't a random play during the game (& yes there were many questionable ones, and great plays too during the game) It was 13 freaking seconds & the Bills Coaches royally screwed it up.😡

I showed the math and stats that to me support that a kick to the 5-10 yard line was the best bet. I know that was what I was shouting for them to do. Bass was money all year doing it and the ST coverages were great. Would have run a minimum 4-5 seconds not 3 imo & that would have given KC no time to run two plays to get to the 32 (which is where they ended up). At best would have been a 60 yard attempt.

Sick looking at that defense.

Trust me I explained that away plenty of times this year. The Bills played garbage QBs much of the year. However I'm certainly no expert on special teams, but Pringle is a good, not great returner. I'm however exhausted and pretty much done. The # errors the Bills made in the last 13 seconds is ridiculous. The moment was too big for the coaches....

So the most important player was not told???? Gross incompetence.

How? It was the exact same as every kick he did on Sunday. The pop up is 3-4 yard approach. Geez.

Pringle How many times do I have to say the same. Bass kicks 60 yard fgs with a 3 yd approach. He did it 5 times already in the game. He knows his leg. Thanks!!!!!

Just needed to review in detail. It's my way. I'm not over it, but yup, this obsessing is therapeutic for me.😜

If they returned it to the 40 yep an epic fail, but I showed empirical evidence that the Bills didn't allow it all year.

Here's the Kickoff Defence. https://www.footballdb.com/stats/teamstat.html?group=D&cat=KR&yr=2021&lg=NFL

All season long when Bass wanted it returned he did a shorter approach. He was easily sailing it in the endzone all game. 7-8 yard full steam run and a booming kick. He has a 60 yard+ leg for FGs we know, so again why if he is only trying to kick it 60 yards is he doing a full wind-up. Sorry need to get this out of my system......😜