Billsfan1972

I did a whole thread on that and then reviewed every kick in that game and Bass did the same thing, with the intent each and every time being a touchback (one was returned as Bass did miss it slightly).

Exactly. The pop up was successful throughout the season and no way is it being fair caught at the 8 yard line. The Athletic article pretty much says they were doing the directional pop up. Every time it was done, Bass did a 3 yard approach (like a FG). As soon as he was 7 yards deep on his approach it was obvious it was going through the endzone.

I think Shaw66 is great, just disagree with his blinders when it comes to McD. Look the Bills will never get those 13 seconds back. Every game one can second guess coaches calls and plays throughout the game, but one thing where there is no debate, is that coaches made bad call over bad call in those 13 seconds. Start with the kick. How the call to kick it short could have been missed (if it was) seems inconceivable. Shouldn't everyone huddle before the kickoff (like they do every play)? I watched the last two plays and the defense was just atrocious. Shaw says the DB was 30 yards down field on the Kelce pass (actually it was 40 yards!!!). They were protecting the sidelines and coverage was beyond soft. If I was a fan of KC vs. Bills and they lost, I've had been so upset about that 3rd & 1, from the 10, where they had the TE under center and resulted in a FG, instead of a TD. But that was just a call during the game, of which there are many. Forget complaining about the KC defense, which we all can do. Was it bad, or did the Bills make great plays and Allen put the team on his shoulders? Vs. Cincy they just botched everything from the end of the first half through OT. In the SB, McVay made the gutsiest & right call on 4th & 1 from their 34 yard line (we know McD would have kicked and trusted the defense). But then there were calls throughout the game, one can scratch their heads about. Same with Cincy. But this is all about a massive failure over the final 13 seconds, because KC was gifted 43 yards on those final 2 plays.

And I was too as I explained to everyone at my house that a squib kick or a short kick was what was needed. I couldn't understand when the kick went to the end zone and was screaming at the call. And trust me I know Tony Romo or coach, but near the right call at the moment.😜

And I too had a thread on that. Cincinnati did it versus Kansas City at the end of the first half and it did exactly what it was supposed to do and was fielded at the 5 and returned inside the 25 and 5 Seconds came off the clock. Final 13 seconds were handled terribly by the coaching staff. End of story.

Yes but they'd be at the 10 yard line, not the 25. However every analyst has claimed that you have to give yourself up and that takes 1-2 seconds off the clock on a squib. I doubt any returner is fair catching Bass' pooch kick at the 5-10 yard line.

He turned his back and walked away. The fact that she's a racist I'm sure he knew all about it and then makes it justifiable.😜

Pathetic..... A "HUMAN" would have went over to see what happened (and in most cases, jumped down to make sure they were okay). Stafford turned his back and took a swig of water. Jalen Hurts earlier this season..... And his response after..... "Through the initial shock, my first reaction was to assist those involve," Hurts wrote. "However, while I displayed a calm composure, I understand the severity of what happened and am extremely concerned for the well-being of the fans and media."

He's waved the white flag & loves him now (though pissed he's a Bill and in the same division as the Pats). Yes he tried to be critical and like many wanted to focus on the concerns, but has admitted he was wrong. Certainly he is no Nick Wright (who is there just to agitate). He loves to talk himself into his opinions. Seems like one of the guys, which is what makes him a great listen.

No idea the picture would be included.... Sorry, hit me too as a gut punch.......

I had a whole thread on that following the game and as soon as I saw Bass doing his full 7 yard approach on the kick I knew it was a touchback. Every kick to the 5 yard line was his FG approach of 3 yards. 60 Yard FG lands at the 5. No wind and perfect conditions and those kicks were always to the left side (narrowing the field too). They did this often during the year and they practiced it. I don't remember any squib kicks.

And Joe Rogan wakes $'millions do a podcast. Yes a lot easier then writing. His Book of Basketball (now 10 years old as said an incredible read and I posted the link as reviewers too for the vast majority agreed). I thought Grantland was too highbrow at times (just the name showed you had to understand the history of sports journalism to get it). I watch the MCU, was hooked on GOT and understanding the stories in such detail is great listening. Yes he shoots the breeze, includes his friends and for the most part they are knowledgeable and yes I like to skew younger and hear their (Ringer Staff) takes on shows like Yellowjackets, Ozark, Euphoria and others. To me a 2 hour podcast breaking down movies I love and do watch when on TV is great. So I'll shill and say I enjoyed articles on the Bills & Josh Allen during the year, as they are national in scope and not local homers. I have a subscription to the Athletic and yes there are plenty of Bills articles, but they are local in nature, so means less to me (though for most here they carry more weight).

This is classic Buffalo little brother syndrome. Simmons is very good and has a vast knowledge base when it comes to sports & pop culture. His Basketball book is one of the best there is. https://www.amazon.ca/Book-Basketball-NBA-According-Sports/dp/0345520106/ref=sr_1_1?gclid=CjwKCAiAgbiQBhAHEiwAuQ6Bks5VCcQ-Xstp6YkUTM4WvAV_G6JkyG2fTTymD3zLv4voGDDUJs2XDBoCxdYQAvD_BwE&hvadid=229974942435&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9000918&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=12508176298884055782&hvtargid=kwd-309558707701&hydadcr=1997_10289626&keywords=big+book+of+basketball&qid=1645117542&sr=8-1#customerReviews Many of his podcasts are irreverent and fun listens. The Rewatchables, Prestige TV, Discussion about MCU, Game of Thrones, David Chang, Wrestling..... The Ringer has great writers and articles on more than just sports. So JoPoy88, what do you have against him? Just curious as I did start this thread to get some insight on as said, some peoples dislike of him.

That's what I said way back and started a thread on the subject and agree with you. Never saw Bass do a squib, but saw plenty of kicks to the 5 and he was money. I actually did a Zapruder breakdown of the kick😜 to confirm he was kicking it for a touchback.

Well there is now 7 pages on Peter Schrager (who's actually on a podcast with Bill). Schrager, like Wright are paid by Networks, Simmons runs a significant platform..... And yes all should check the site (lot's of Bills & Allen articles if you do a search). Sorry to post a thread on an opinion.

And Simmons didn't use KC too. Explanation? Or just because he's Boston native.

So he's a Boston fan, and will talk himself into backing the Patriots, Bruins, Celtics and Red Sox, but he is a great listen, knows his stuff and The Ringer has great podcasts and articles, but when mentioned here, always a few have to announce they dislike him. Loves pop culture too. Not sure why people here feel that way or need to announce it, without ever an explanation. Is it because he's such a Boston homer & thus a result of how the Pats made the Bills their whipping boys for 12-15 yards? Is it because they are upset at his success and friends? Anyways he was talking about the SB and in two separate podcasts said about the game just 'how bad Josh Allen and Bills fans must have felt watching the game in disgust, knowing how much better they were'. He also lamented seeing, Allen, Burrow, Mahomes, Herbert, Jackson(not on the same level) in the conference, and the Pats have Jones. He talks like someone here on TBD who's a fan. Great cast of characters and contributors too.

You are a great contributor, know your stuff and write many great posts, but your continual defense of McD is way too much. Has McD ever screwed up in your opinion? He did here, in some way, shape or form. I was screaming (friends were over) with 13 seconds to squib or to force a return (and I know nothing). That was the key play.... Take another 3-5 seconds off the clock. Then it is simple, do whatever you can to ensure Hill or Kelce don't catch 20+ yard passes. On the Kelce pass the DB was playing 40 yards off the LOS!!!!!! He used two timeouts and still accomplished nothing. McD regardless is the person responsible for communication. If they can't communicate a squib kick, that is on him. His protocols & communication was terrible if that was the call (squib).

Lot's of time, but a first down was all that mattered at that point.

They needed 1 yard. Why is your best receiver going long? Those one yard completions should be simple. BTW Burrow had no way of seeing that as the already headed to the ground.

I saw Higgins facemask on Ramsey immediately. It was obvious. As for the defenses, both played well, but I wasn't impressed by either QB's play overall, though stats show they both played okay.

There are going to be mistakes throughout the game by coaches. However you can not rationalize the last 13 seconds vs. KC.... Trust me the Bills & KC had coaching blunders throughout that game too.

They were stopped, sometimes it happens & yes was not a great playcall in any way shape or form, but how about giving Donald credit? As for the Kupp play, give McVay credit as they too failed on third & 1 and had a play ready (Bengals didn't), and more importantly knew the importance and went for it on their own 30..... I expect if that was McD, he would have punted and relied on the defense to get the ball back....

At worst 50/50.... If it was Josh then he threw it too hard or led the receiver too much.😜🤣 Nothing questionable about it..... It was OPI!!!!

It was good, not great......