Billsfan1972

near the top and just showed a great shot on 8.

They acquired Hines who is a great back out of the back field and a pass catcher. Guess what this great coaching staff did with him and his large salary? They didn't throw him the ball or have him involved in the offense. How much confidence does that give you?

The Bills have a generational quarterback and they babied him from day one. They gave him no help the first two years and he went 28 games before his first 300-yard passing one. Show me any quarterback that went that long without a 300-yard game. This was Josh freaking Allen..... To me they could have worked on issues earlier. Sorry this was a shiny new toy that should have been played with and built around day one. But let's not forget who the choice was to start the 2018 season it was Nathan Peterman.

While I agree that 3rd and 2 was stupid, unless that were going for it regardless on fourth down. Add to that it was a perfect pass and surprise surprise Davis dropped it. If he had caught it that would have been the second contested catch all year (yes he had one vs Pitt). I however keep going on about first in 10 at the Cincinnati 39-yard line and three plays that went nowhere where the Bills needed at least a field goal at a crucial time. 5 yards and Bass is in range. As bad as the Bills were, momentum, the crowd, some adjustments and the second half kick and the game could have changed. We've seen this before usually from other teams (again twice from my memory in the McD era, vs. TB a loss, and vs. Baltimore this year).

Not sure McD is top 8. I however think with Allen, more protection from the line and one more receiving weapon they certainly can win. I too agree all the moping that Cincy & KC are "so much" better and that the Bills are now a notch below with a Jackson led Ravens, LA and Miami, NYJ and Peyton led Broncos..... is wrong. Better coaching & scheming is needed from McD and his staff.

I know I've gone on and have been on McD since year one particularly from the minute he named Peterman the starter vs. SD. I can list everything I've questioned and getting fed up with "The Process" and other catchphrases used here. I too have said he has grown on me, but I still see so many little things that bother me and have stated them over and over in numerous threads and posts. However, there really is no compelling reason to let him go and while we can question him retaining Frazier & Dorsey, I too understand it. Look as fans we all want a SB victory and for the foreseeable future with Josh Allen if it happens it will probably be with McD. I for one don't want a 9-8 2023 season and a firing. I want 14-3, the #1 seed and the SB. Sorry I don't want to see a step back so the Bills can move two steps forward, because that will mean 2023 more countless threads & posts pointing out every mistake the coaching staff has made. So let's hope he has learned and it is not just lip service, as have Frazier & Dorsey, that the draft and FA shows commitment to the O and that 365 days from now we're talking about the upcome SB and not how the Bills should have done this or that.

And a great FA signing.

They're a coming back so all we can do is hope they have learned from their mistakes.

But because McD is so defensive minded they too stunted Allen's growth the first Teo years with conservative offense and not letting him learn on the fly and make mistakes. McD didn't have a 300 yard passing game his first 3 years. Allen's first in 2020 like 25 games into his NFL career. Compare that to every great qb.

Obviously you do not know me and how much detail I went into breaking down the kick like a zapruder film, or at my house with my friends over screaming 13 seconds is plenty and kick it short, giving up most two plays one which would have had to be in a Hail Mary.

Why? Because those who were concerned from the bye week on actually may have had a point? This is what bothers me I wish we could go back to all those posts worried about what was happening with the Bills and how they were shouted down and it seems a lot of those people disappeared and no longer are part of the debate. I 100% wanted to be here this week talking about the Super Bowl and how the Bills were going to beat the Eagles. And I can promise you98% of those on the site want to be doing the same thing.

I call Bull. Experts all had Buffalo as the favourite. If these teams are better then the Bills, then guess what????? Coaches didn't do their jobs coaching players up or making the right calls on the field. Revisionist history. Find one publication that said the Bills weren't going to be as good (or better then Cincy or KC). And then too find one that questioned the coaching (that's our job🤣).

I think Bezo's should have concentrated and continued to sell only books!!!!🤣

Cheap excuses..... Falls on the coaches again regardless. If the Bills were not as good as the Bengals & Chiefs, then devise a game plan to beat them (or go down swinging). They did not.

This year (Bills included 31 vs. Miami). Losing team 30, 23, 31, 17, 24, 14, 20, 7, 10, 20, 7 2021 Losing Team 17, 19, 21, 17, 15, 11, 16, 10, 36 (Bills), 27, 24, 17, 20 2020 Losing Team 24 (Indy vs. Bills), 20, 23, 37, 9, 13, 18, 3 (Ravens vs. Bills), 17, 20, 24, 26, 9

We know the answer and it has been discussed ad-nauseum. Good QB's will do well against the Bills. The problem is the other side of the ball too has been exposed to being essentially Allen & Diggs. Big plays from others seldom happen. For some reason too, Allen didn't run as the season wound down and Dorsey's scheme's were way too easy to defend. As i stated over & over as bad as the defense was vs. Cincy, the Bills had first down at their 39 yard line with 1:00 left the first half and the second half kick. Dorsey had nothing dialed up and the game was lost there. Simply if they were 17-17 or 21-17 (they were remember first & goal to start the third) maybe then we'd have had the shootout expected, but sadly it was the offense that let them down there. And Allen hides all the flaws on the defense because he's gone essentially 11-5, 13-3, 11-6 & 13-3.

Okay I'm a Bills fan and yes I watch a lot of football I only get wrapped up here. We all saw what happened vs. Cincy and it was not pretty. The playoffs are a different beast and all year we saw the warts on the defense and yes injuries played a significant factor, but to be swiss cheese regardless of who is put out there is unacceptable. Let's not forget Cincy was missing 3 OL and did whatever they wanted. They could have put up 40 if they needed to. Bills fans know that they got lucky with Allen and he has become a QB beyond probably their expectations and they haven't done enough for him on that side of the ball, because this is essentially McD's team. McD is a Defence first coach and spent the money there and constructed a defense that he and Frazier have run for years. They have been terrible the last 4 playoff losses and really played what amounts to 3 decent games in the playoffs (Jax, Baltimore & NE). They have been terrible the last 3 and this is their philosophy on D. Bend, don't break and hope for a mistake (fumble, tipped pass....). They have allowed 29,29 & 30 First downs to opponents a ridiculously high #. And no I will not forget 13 seconds, where two masterminds completely blew it.

Actually I went back about 12-15 years to see worse home losses In the playoffs. Guess what? There weren't many, if any. Even the lopsided ones were closer going into the 4th.

So winning Wildcard weekend and at home is acceptable? The Bills won two playoff games once coming off a 13-3 year with tons of momentum and were tooth & nail the first game (vs. Indy) and another tough one vs. Baltimore. KC & Cincy blew them out of the water, they destroyed NE, did nothing offensively vs. Jax, coaching may ahve lost them vs. Houston and we all know 13 seconds. If you're happy, so be it.

Look I was concerned the second half of the season, but figured come the playoffs, they'd figure it out & maybe were playing a little possum during the season (i.e. tricks up there sleeves). Then Hamlin happened and we collectively held our breathes. Week one things were better but not out of the woods. Miami playoff game, still a little concern and just a weird game that just as easily could have been 45-10 as opposed to a nail-biter. The issue though was exacerbated, when vs. Cincy they came out and didn't change a single thing from three weeks earlier at home and the coaching staff looked completely unprepared, seemingly made no adjustments and when still in the game, seemed to rollover and wave the white flag come 5 minutes into the third quarter.

I think we all agree Urban Meyer did a bad job with the Culture, but sorry the cliche about "The Process" is old. All coaches should bring a strong culture, not so sure how unique McD's was.

So Rex was 7-7 his final year (with Tyrod at QB) going into week 16 and a chance for the playoffs. They blew it big time in OT. And Rex is a disaster. The next year the Bills go 9-7 and get a miracle play from Andy Dalton to make the playoffs and now McD is a genius and a saviour. They then drafted Allen (and yes traded for Diggs) and that has been the difference maker. Nothing else imo. A team that was the SB favourite struggled much of the second half of the season and many games were downright sloppy. It was good they played vs. Brissett, Wilson, Jones, Fields and others down the stretch. The offense too looked disjointed. Glad you enjoyed the season.

And how does McD rate on those?

No we were told a win is a win. I remember too how impressed people were with the first NE game and calling that a decisive game and signature win. It was a tough watch from the second half of the GB game.

Not a single thread after the Cincy game. I'm not knee jerk, just commenting on what I see during games. I do understand what coaches do, not so sure McD is that good at it. Is he good at in game calls? Challenge flags? In game adjustments? Drafting? Spending money of the Offensive side of the ball? Playoff success? Results vs. top tier qb's?