Billsfan1972

I don't disagree. My concern is they should have let the reigns off. I want to see what he is capable of in 60 minutes (not a half or the 4th quarter, which happens too often). Thanks for putting even more detail in the analysis.

Thanks and as I read it the W/L is 64 Wins 38 Losses (where the losing QB was the only one throwing for 300) & 2 Ties & 19 Losses (where both threw for 300)..... Again I think when both throw for 300, the losing did everything he could to keep them in the game. And I guess a tie doesn't count.

How many times do we hear the 9 new starters argument? It's getting old week 17. Oh and we have played good defenses down the stretch...... Always another excuse. Remember I am an Allen supporter & think he can be really good, but believe the Bills have held him back and just maybe if the Bills had opened up the offense & given Allen more opportunities earlier in the season that the NE & Baltimore games could have had different outcomes (throw in Cleveland too).....

You are all so smart? Allen is 29th in yards/game and was 32nd last year. I want better and that does not mean 26 next year then 23. ...

Again you are wrong. What I want to see is what the Bills have in Josh Allen. I have no idea based on the play calling & how they run the offense. Next year a tougher schedule & pretend the defense is not top 3, but 8th-12th & Allen throws more & is Jameis Winston & a turnover machine, then what? There were plenty of games the Bills could have been more aggressive & chose not to (7 games under 200 yards passing.

And again this should have been a game to showcase Allen, take the reigns off & judge him on his potential. Of course the Bills decided tough it and again were in a one score game into the 4th at home vs. a punchless offensive team playing Haskins in his first start.

The Bills were at home & let Baltimore's defense dictate the game. Yes I expected more then 250 yards (209 net).....

And I too hope it is.... I just wanted top see them open it up more this year & the 17 points that the coach seems happy with drives me nuts. Pedal to the metal......

And if you are right, then the issue is Allen is not the QB for the team or the future (as we see Tennessee has decided with Mariotta). I have banged the same drum continually that the Bills do need to open up the offense primarily because the future is Allen (the reason he was drafted #7) & while I'm convinced he is a great QB, maybe I am wrong & Daboll & the coaching is covering up for him & that will lead to failure in the future. That is not a good thing for the Bills & why I want them to work hard to see if he is or is not the future. BTW we all too know PFF's anti-Allen stance so I expect every incompletion not OB was considered interceptable....... This is what happened with Mariotta (of just a lousy/wrong OC, though Tannehill may have proven that wrong) & certainly saw that with Blake Bortles & Jax. And applaud Arizona for making the decision on Rosen. Plenty of other examples. I have said this over & over. I proved you wrong & then you use the NET argument..... The Bills don't need to worry about the net figure, because they havcen't crossed the 300 yard line.... Keep trying....

Wrong 2017 Browns did it (took 2 qB's, but they did) ..... 2017 Colts they did vs. SF. You got me on Baltimore (my bad).... Yes & Pitt lost Big Ben game 1 this year, so pretty excusable imo..... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201710080clt.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201709170rav.htm You are wrong..... And the Bills have gone 2017, 2018 & 1 game to go in 2019..... Unacceptable & pretty sad....

Interesting because I did not see that vs. Baltimore & a great video/thread here showing how wrong they were about Josh that game. I also thought they did a lousy job reacting to blitz after blitz. As for open receivers I was going to post & ask how All-22's look for 31 other teams. I bet you'll see open receivers on every All-22, but the question is whether Josh is worse at recognizing them or not good at reading defenses, as I don't know. If the read is Beasley & Brown is wide open (as seen vs. NE) was that a bad read by Allen or was the pass meant for Cole & Brown being open meant nothing. As for the highest % of interceptable balls, I call bull, as at least since the NE game, I've really seen very few. Another stat I'd like to see is catching contested passes, which I seldom see the Bills do, same as catching tough passes (not drops, but catches that could be made), which again I don't see the Bills doing.....

Again I think the Offense is much much better then it shows & the results are because of McD's style, bad hires & Daboll's inability to game call or adjust. I was especially appalled how bad they were vs. Baltimore & allowed the Baltimore defense to dictate the game (drops didn't help either).....

I said the only team that did not do it in 2018 (other then the Bills) were the historically bad Arizona Cardinals (and look how quickly that has changed). That is the only team.... And yes it is more fun to watch..... BTW in 2017 that Mariota 300 yard game was a W!!!! And you are wrong about the Offense, as good offenses are almost 100% due to the QB & as long as he is at or near his prime the Offense is maintained. Of course this year we saw Big Ben injured and Pitt plummet.... So are the Bills a great shutdown defense or not?

This is where you Fans don't get it...... Defenses & Offenses can change very quickly, but if you have your franchise QB, you are set on offense.... Anyone worry year to year about NO, Seattle, GB, NE, KC or LA's offenses? You know they will be good year after year & it is then a matter of how good. Conversely let's look @ 2018 defenses & where they are in 2019.... Case in points Chicago, Jacksonville, Minnesota (again yards allowed). It is hard to maintain that level and yes the Bills have been right at the top for 2 years, that doesn't mean next year they'll remain there.

When we hand the ball back 2X's in the final 5 minutes to give them a chance to tie, or get the ball with 2 minutes & 3 TO's in a tight game at the end of the first half and play to run out the clock? Yep probably..... And if the Bills lose because they were conservative on Offense or were unprepared on that side of the ball (as they were vs. Balt & NE), how will you react? I know..... It is all part of the process & 2020 (or 2021 or 2022) & it will all be okay....

Usually the case (8:00), which I do expect the Bills to play @ 4:00, which is perfect....

Again the Bills are 25-22 under McD, not 47-0..... Being able to throw the ball for 300 yards may have changed the result in a few of those losses..... As one person pointed out is the Bills scored a TD vs. Cleveland on that last possession through the air they would have thrown for 300 yards..... But no McD wanted a 53 yard FG to tie the game.....

Yep, when the Bills have gone 3 years without, it has become a joke & it is almost impossible to fathom the futility...... Are you all so thrilled with the 30th, 29th & 24th ranked offense the past 3 years?

6 of 16 is better then the Bills record. Also note a tougher Division...... Rams had an incredibly tough schedule including 2 vs. both the Seahawks & 49ers, Saints, Bears & Ravens...... Lost to common opponents Steelers, Cowboys, but beat the Browns..... So if the Bills pay for FA's with all their money, does that mean they'll stink in 2-3 years too?

Now we can agree on something!!!!!!?

How every team in the NFL is capable of a 300 yard game except the Bills is what is mind boggling. Rivers has made the playoffs countless times. How about using Brady, Payton Manning, Drew Brees or Aaron Rogers instead? Oh & Cam Newton made the SB after a lousy passing year too. Do the Bills know something that the other 31 teams don't as they're the only team incapable of it & now going on 3 years!!!! So how come the Bills aren't able to? How did the Rams go from 32nd to 1st in one year???? I take it as a defender of the process jumping from 29th to 24th is spectacular? Yes I expected a huge jump this year & that Allen would be given the opportunity to excel..... Again I blame it on the coaching & play calling.

How so? I think he is severely held back & badly coached. I think the offense is a lot better then it shows. The fact that every NFL team has thrown for 300 yards in each of 2017, 2018 & 2019 (except Arizona in 2018) pretty much tells you how this staff has handled the Bills offense since McD was signed.

The point is there would too be a different perception of the team and it would be further ahead in my estimations. What's interesting is seeing the leaps KC, LA Rams, Baltimore & others can do with creative offensive minds. And by the way with a top three offense & being 100% sure of the QB going forward they'd be more fun to watch (except for those still mired in 60's football), attract free agents & yep national exposure too..... Oops but that's not the Buffalo way.

I get a lot of flack here for 100% concentrating on the Passing game & the Bills Offense. I do it because QB is the most important position in football & the Bills drafted Allen to be their franchise QB. Now McD took over a team that was 16th in Offense (Yards Gained) & have been 29th, 30th & currently 24th under his regime. The QB they drafted as their future in terms of Passing Yards/Game (and please let's not talk about his running, which has been a surprise as no one expected it & has been great) has been 32nd & 29th in two seasons. No 300 yard games (had to mention that?) either. And again remember I am a HUGE JOSH ALLEN SUPPORTER. The defense was 14th in 2016 & 26th 207, 2nd 2018 & 3rd 2019 (Yards allowed)..... Here's the source..... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2017/opp.htm So let's pretend the Defense was decimated (going from 16th to 29th, 30th & 24th) by McD & after a blip in 2017 the Offense was now a top 5 with their franchise QB (Allen), which is not a stretch seeing what Mahomes has done in KC, would the Bills not be way ahead (and frankly more fun to watch?)? BTW 2016 the Rams were 32nd on Offense & next year under McVay #1!!!!! So it can be done. The issue is & I keep repeating is with the way McD & Daboll handle the offense & the play calling, how is anyone confident that the Bills make that next step, and are you sure that the Bills defense will continue to be this good?

So if this brain trust is so smart according to you above post, then the Bills should be drafting a QB, becasue Allen has then been a failure as he has ranked at the bottom of the league in accuracy & yards/game two years running. Of course I completely disagree & think the coaching has stunted Allen, lost the Bills games & they are way behind in seeing what they have in him.