Billsfan1972

Ryan Fitzpatrick just proved 300 yards means nothing......?

Yes it is..... Google it.... https://www.google.com/search?q=300+yards+passing+in+a+game&oq=300+yards+passing+in+a+game&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l7.8278j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 But whatever......

Again why not? Saw it from Goff when McVay took over. This small incremental improvement is not enough from your franchise QB.

300 is an accepted standard in the NFL, like 100 yards rushing. This is not a crusade, I use it as a benchmark, which it is when compiling statistics. No one is pointing out Brees, Rogers or Brady's 250 yard passing games.

As said every team does it (annually & multiple times in almost every instance) but the Bills (and extenuating circumstances with the Steelers this year). Call it what you want but Allen's passing/gm is 29th in the league. That I hope is on the coaching, because 29th in the league is not acceptable.

And if you take the 10 worst offenses in the NFL.... Only the Bills (maybe Pitt) will be in the playoffs.... So still better offenses make the playoffs vs. worse...... And yes when looking only at passing Balt is there too, but that is a very unique case..... 2018 6 of top 10 made it vs. 0-10 of the worst offenses..... Who would have thunk that????? All I want is some balance (i.e. a better offense)......

I was answering Sincethe70's question. Maybe you should stop being so grumpy. I'm excited they're in the playoffs, and an offensive explosion next week (& win), would have me downright giddy!!!!?

Look at the W/L % i.e. SF 100% when they pass for 300 (3-0) vs. 9-3 (.750) when they don't..... And again if both teams throw for 300 yes there is a winner & a loser, but can't blame the loss on not throwing for 300.... Excuse me for being impatient. The Bills have had only 13 300 yard passing games in the last 13 years. A guy can dream can't he? As for Bills fans being more knowledgable, this is classic Bills fandom & patting themselves on the back. We've had very little to cheer for 20 years & continue to make excuses. I also expected more from Allen this year & blame the lack of production on the coaching & play calling. Sorry but this is classic gullible Bills fans for believing what the coaches say & seeming happy with a little improvement, where I expected significant improvement on the offense with what the Bills (& I) hope is their franchise QB. I've pointed out Jax & Chicago & what happens when you put too much stock in the Defense & are okay with a lower tiered Offense. There are plenty of other examples of the same.

Yea, KC is no fun to watch..... Neither is NO. Really you expect me & most others to believe? Yep you want to see 14-10 games.... This is getting old. While I do believe some really are truly defense first & hate passing & high octane offenses, that is the minority (or they'd change the rules to benefit defenses). Again the Bills have had a creampuff schedule, played below average offenses for the most part this year & the defense looked very good. As for 300 yards, it is important & if you look beyond W/L, you'll see in almost every case that throwing for 300 yards & your team has a higher win %, then when they do not. Of course skewed by the 1-14 Bengals, Lions & Falcons & yes losing teams. Here is a partial list from this year. I.e. Garropolo 3-0 Cousins 4-0 Brees 4-1 (loss vs. SF when Garropolo threw 300 too) + 1-0 Bridgewater Jones 2-2 (NYG 4 wins) Keenum 0-2 (Wash is lousy) Watson 2-1 (again loss when Indy threw for 300) Brissett 2-1 Mayfield 3-0 Fitz 2-1 Wentz 3-2 Brady 4-1 Darnold 2-0 Murray 1-2-1

I will answer this as it is really outside the thread..... The epiphany was when oldmanfan brought it up. We look back often and wax nostalgic about the good old days but be honest that team threw 12X's/game & basically ran and only ran the ball... I loved the year but looking back in retrospect it was not that great & the style of football not very exciting. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/1973.htm 400 yards offense in 1 game, over 100 yards passing in only 2. Yep loved the year and the record in 1973, but if I was watching that today I'd be bored silly.

This has to be a Buffalo thing as this game is about highlights, offense, passing & scoring..... Sorry very few yearn for another SB like last year or 14-10 games. The teams the majority of people want to see are those capable of 30-40+ any given day. They want to see the marquee QB & stud receivers & backs.... I did a quick check & the almost all the time the Bills are in the mid-low 20's in offense (30's too). A few years 16-11 (Drew Bledsoe & Rex Ryan). The last top 10 offense was 1998 Rob Johnson & Doug Flutie (#6)..... BTW Playoffs in 1998 & 1999. Another stat.... There have been 180 4000 yard passing seasons... A Buffalo Bill has done it once..... Drew Bledsoe in in 2002. Sorry that I'd like to see some offense again......

And you wonder why I am so carried away about 300 yards???? From 2006-2019 here are the names of the QB's to throw for 300 yards: Ryan Fitzpatrick (7), Kyle Orton (3), J.P Losman (2), Taylor (1). Yes, your math is right. A Bills quarterback has thrown for 300+ yards just 13 times over the past 13 seasons. Prior to that they went 59 games..... https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2010/10/26/1775133/whats-happened-since-bills-last-had-a-300-yard-passer No wonder I'm antsy!!!!?

I played & sorted the file & certainly interesting stats..... I will point out that throwing for 300 also means your team generally has a better winning % vs. when you don't..... I.e. Garropolo 3-0 Cousins 4-0 Brees 4-1 (loss vs. SF when Garropolo threw 300 too) + 1-0 Bridgewater Jones 2-2 (NYG 4 wins) Keenum 0-2 (Wash is lousy) Watson 2-1 (again loss when Indy threw for 300) Brissett 2-1 Mayfield 3-0 Fitz 2-1 Wentz 3-2 Brady 2-1 Darnold 2-0 Murray 1-2-1 But then of course Andy Dalton or Stafford will be brought up.....

Sorry I p!$$ed on your corn flakes....? I will not respond further to this thread & you can have your cathartic kumbaya moment, along with those who want to join you. This is 2019, the offense is not good enough thanks to the coaching & play calling by McD & Daboll. We all appreciate great defense, but have to also understand that it is offense that scores the points that decide 90% of NFL games & can't keep playing offensive football like it is the 1970's in 2019.

And this is the problem with waxing nostalgic, you forget the bad. OJ was great to watch (and I was watching that 2003 yard season), but outside the record overall I'm not so sure. However they went 9-5, missed the playoffs & averaged under 12 passes a game (high water mark was 169)..... In 12 of 14 they were under 100..... One game they had 1 net yard passing. It was all about the Electric Company & OJ. Yep I loved that year, but in retrospect it was beyond boring (if not for OJ). Yep we all appreciate great defensive plays & hard legal hits, but this is 2019 & you can not hang your hat on it. You really must hate Brees, Rogers & Brady. I now see why 300 yards passing is so upsetting to you. BTW last team not to complete a pass???? Buffalo 1974 (btw Joe Namath completed 2 & the Bills won).

How many excuses can one make??? Unless McD comes out & takes blame for holding back the offense, you have to move on from Daboll.... Again this year should have been about repetitions for Allen & it was not imo. Again look at Arizona, who quickly moved on from Rosen (as did Miami) & their rookie (on a still lousy team) saw their passing yards increase 35% this year. The Bills supposedly invested in the offense in 2019 and brought in a new #1 & #2 WR & the passing #'s increased 19%...... And still is 29th in the league.... If the Defensive coordinators first two years were 32 & 29, where would he be?

But because it's the Offense ranked so low many here are okay with it. I don't get it.

And I'd be on here a lot less as would be excited watching the team march up and down the field. Bills fans wouldn't accept a Defense as bad as this Offense (in terms of ranking) And KC beat Baltimore this year.

We've kept hoping it would change all season long & it hasn't. And yes will wish for the same in the playoffs..... When the Bills beat Pitt, some here applauded the smart coaching that milked the 17-10 lead & ensured no mistakes. When they lose a tight game (NE & Balt), well it is usually due to the team being better then the Bills & not bad decision making or coaching the first 54 minutes on offense. And yes I think they are much better then Houston, but expect them to play for a 17-13 win...... Yea yea I know we'll be thrilled if they do win 17-13..... As I've stated over & over this offense is better then 24th. If your QB has ranked 32nd & 29th his first two years (i.e. near the bottom)in yards/gm isn't it time to start thinking about the next QB? Again I don't believe it but that is how they play him.

And again 5 more passes a game, screens, easier passes, hurry up offense, more read options, play actions & whatever that seems to work for the better offenses in the league..... This team wishes every game was 17-13, and plays that way. And yes I complain about the drops, not catching contested balls or making that difficult catch. Making the wrong read, I'll be the first to admit I'm not smart enough to know & watching All 22's and you'll see those 1-2 plays where a receiver is running uncovered & not thrown to, but I bet that is the same for almost every QB & team, but we don't see that. We all see what we want in Allen. I want him to be great (he's a Bill after all) so i see the good & want to see more plays so i can assess him. Buffalo is 27th in pass attempts.... League average would be 5 more attempts/game. With such a good defense they should be higher.

Again I won't argue the point, however to have the disparity the Bills have between O & D ultimately is not good. What is bothersome & I know oft repeated is that the Bills seem to make so little effort on Offense. The 24th ranked offense is not good enough & to be 29th, 30th & 24th tells me that they really haven't addressed it (or poor coaching & play calling). The issue is that the Bills of all playoff teams have the biggest discrepancy between Offense & Defense in terms of rankings & this is on the coaching in barely addressing it for 3 years..... Under McD they've gone from 16th on Offense in 2016 now are 24th..... In terms of the teams they've played this year the Average Offensive Rank is 20.2 & Defenses 15.5 (where I took their rankings in yards allowed or gained and then averaged them out). What this shows is that the Defense played generally vs. worse offenses throughout the year & the Offense played against league average Defenses. Again this shows that the Defense is probably over-rated based on playing worse then league average offenses & the 24th ranked offense is pretty much what they are on average. Again didn't work vs. Balt & NE.....

I hated that game the Bills played terrible & was tough to watch. That last drive by Buffalo was so disorganized & NYG continually converting on third downs. The Bills were so sloppy that game. Can't argue with Bills fans as you seem to also forget SF-Balt, NE-Seattle, NE- Car & others..... And yes Philly-NE was a great game.....

Sorry I'd be happy if the Bills signed Brown.....

What high scoring Bills offense? Got to go back to the K-gun, and anyone saying that wasn't more exciting is not being honest..... Very few games this year have been exciting..... Yes exciting in that they are 10-5, but the games itself have been meh...... And yes I've watched pretty much every single minute. Here again is the perfect example..... The Bills played Baltimore opposite NO vs. SF. Four teams all with 3 (or less losses) in week 14...... Anyone who says the Bills vs. Ravens game was more exciting/compelling then NO vs. SF is lying.....

Now again let's flip the switch...... The Bills are in the playoffs, Josh Allen is the centerpiece of the #2 or 3 rated offense & the Defense the past 2 years is the 32nd & 29th ranked (Allen's yards/game or 30th, 29th & 24th ranked offense the last three years)...... There'd be a mutiny here as to how bad the defense is and that it is unacceptable. And what if McD came in 2017 & completely gutted the D that was not bad & they went from 16th to 30th, which is what he did to the Offense? The good new is the games would be awfully exciting.......?