Billsfan1972

What a non-story. McDermott & Beane traded him in pre-season. Why should he trust coaches that do that? I don't see anything in the story that was not a fact. In fact I remember them working prior to training camp. https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2017/07/why_tyrod_taylor_paid_for_sammy_watkins_other_buffalo_bills_to_visit_offseason.html

Who at a skill position did they pay? Beasley & Brown are combined paid less then Watkins, Singletary appears to be a good find in the draft, but generally they go for below average/average options at best. The big names & $'s to get them are always just talk. Heck McD already has explained that the cap space he'd spend on players already here. While not from Missouri I am a "Show Me" person.

Again 24th is not slightly below, it is BELOW AVERAGE

All off the Discount bin (except JA)!!!!

McD can't see past his Defense & Offense is an afterthought (necessary evil to give D a breather). Until proven wrong I will say it over & over.

Yep would have had Mahomes to Watkins in 2017. McD would have turned a transcendent QB & made him a mediocre/above average QB & game manager..... 17 points & time to shut it down.....? And we'll wait and see. As said he created such havoc in the backfield and than there are open receivers. You would think Daboll could do that with Allen..

And why is he so good????? Because a well thought out offensive scheme has receivers running open & often easy passes to uncovered players as they focus on Lamar. Yep he made some tough passes, but also the right one's into very loose coverage.

I was making an observation & knew McD & Beane weren't there, but promise you if they were, would not have taken Mahomes or even considered him in 2017. They would have if they did draft him screw him up terribly & had no idea what to do. KC was incredibly smart in drafting him & knowing Alex Smith was not the long-term solution there.

Mahomes would have been JA 2.0 if here with McD &Daboll.... They'd have no comprehension of who they had & may still have started Peterman ahead of him......?

In the Bargain bin & discount section!!!!!?

He was under contract.... 2017 as the established #1, good success with Tyrod, things could have played out much differently. Anyone else remember the game vs. The Jets where he schooled Revis??

No they don't bash, but also McD seems myopic if a player doesn't fit their ideal (& of course Defense). Have to sometimes treat players differently and not everyone fits your ideal.

Actually this is the perfect article that indicates how a new regime could have worked with him, talked about expectations and doubled down that they wanted him to excel and be their #1... Again I want to cheer and have longtime allegiance to players Ina Bills uniform and yes that means usually at the Skill Positions. I was excited for 2017 and what a Healthy Sammy & TT could do. Trading him in training camp was a slap in the face of fans looking forward to 2017, not draft picks in 2018.....

Again as a Bill, did he produce? I'd say his trajectory was right on track year's 1-2 & missed half of year 3. So as I keep asking, what exactly did Sammy do on the field that necessitated him being dumped for pennies on the dollar? Any other Bills dumped in a similar manner that have flourished? And would you not rather have had him play for the B ills in 2017 & then made the decision as to his future. He may have been a bust year 4 & then this argument would be moot....

Again the thread was about Watkins and the hate here primarily because the Bills traded up to get him. Been a long time since the Bills had continuity or a player to cheer for beyond 3 years in a skill position. As I stated Watkins was going into year 4, seems healthy and him and Tyrod seemed to be working well together (2016 injury aside).... What happened? The new regime gutted the offense and never answered for it. This salary cap excuse with a player under a rookie contract was mallarky. What really bothers me is people here upset with him solely as to when he was drafted and not his performance. Plenty of Bills were drafted high and didn't perform & they are out of the league or marginal players. Only Watkins is commanding $10,000,000+ a year. Do a search of all the pseudo-gms claiming Watkins wouldn't get any sizeable offers last year. If you are a talent you get paid. Buffalo I hope understands that.

If you must know yes. I can also be honest in my assessment of the team & what I see. Yes 10-6 & wins aside, they weren't an exciting team to watch. I am a fan of Offense in football & the last 3 years has been difficult to watch as the offense is painful at times. Disagree all you want, but I'm only being honest.

And again how do you improve talent at the skill positions? I can't think there is a single FA who would believe a word Beane or McDermott says about the offense & their goals based on their actions the last three years. So the Bills would need to over pay & they won't do that. Now the draft is the key & we'll wait & see. Again the the concern is that if they produce, will they be paid? Who was the last highly paid player on the Bills Offense? BTW Watkins would have been the answer if he stayed & the Bills made sure that that decision would never have had to be made.?

And don't forget yesterday's TD he was the third option as Mahomes ran around back there. The point was he produced when called upon. Here you go on that play. Watkins beat him plain & simple..... It happens.... https://www.chiefs.com/video/patrick-mahomes-makes-back-foot-54-yard-pass-to-sammy-watkins

Again, he was very good as a Rookie & had over 1000 yards in 12-13 games year 2 & missed half of year 3..... I would imagine if targeted like OBJ or Hopkins in 2017 & a playoff spot, he'd have been more then happy being a Bill. Explain to me why any skill position player would want to play for the 24th ranked offense & a Defense first coach in a cold weather small town. You need to overpay or there are no other choices. Hey I'm a Bill fan, just stating reality. So now the #1 CB in the NFL couldn't cover a #3 receiver?????

And you know the inside story??? You read Sammy Watkins psychological profile? You maybe 100% right, but I just wanted to see him in 2017 as a Bill & made that decision for myself. Go find the posts with all the experts after the LA Rams that he'd by lucky to sign for $7-8,000,000 & yet there was a bidding war & he got $14,000,000/yr. Again what makes McD & Beane so much smarter? Are you so happy with the 30, 29 & 24th ranked Offense under McD?

Again 2015 he was over 1000 & played only 13 games (1300 pro-rated)...... Who knows what would have happened as he had worked with TT in the offseason (it was said) prior to the 2017 season. No one knows, but I'll bet if cut, he'll again sign at north of $10,000,000/yr. I'd be worried he signs with NYJ or Miami......?

He was not paid $16,000,000/yr as a Bill...... That's the damn point. Year 4 when he was healthy the Bills could have made that decision, but gave him away for next to nothing (oh and then traded for Matthews and Benjamin). Tell me how those two replacements worked (and if they're still in the league)????

It never fails...... Yep an incredible performance on the ground and they kept scoring & scoring, forcing turnovers & 27-0 at half. However during the Regular season they also had 4-300 yard passing games...... Something the Bills have had 0 in the 50 games McD has coached.....

The false narrative is the dumpster fire and taking over a terrible team. We all know year one was a fluke pass that got them in the playoffs and year 3 a very easy schedule was the primary reason.

Because you would.... We know 0-2 I'm the playoffs too. I'm just saying the records are almost identical to the prior three years that was considered a dumpster fire..... I love the false narrative. This thread is about Watkins and I maintain they traded him out of spite for the prior regime not his production on field.