Perry Turtle
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Yep, this experiment is dumb. Time for plan B.
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What's the over/under on the number of sacks the Bills D will get the rest of the season? 3? 4?
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1 hour ago, Buffalo Boy said:
TESTIFY Brother!!!
im just so proud of McD for having a set.
If McD had a set he would have drafted Watson and dumped Taylor when he had the chance during the offseason.
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5 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:
Those guys don't fit the future...that's what the personnel moves have been for...to repave the roster. Guys like Matthew and Gaines were for this year. It's all about bringing in their type of players. Hope they get a chance to see if they can reach their goals.
Right, so instead of watching Watson throwing to Watkins and Woods this season, we get to watch McDermott's chemistry experiment. Great.
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23 minutes ago, NoSaint said:
There’s absolutely no reason this needed to be a multi year rebuild. Fans went hook line and sinker on a narrative about how bad the cap was.... we now also believe that every young talent was a cancer... it’s ridiculous.
The Bills could have re-signed Woods, picked up Watkins option, and drafted Watson. Sure, they might have had to overpay Woods, and Watkins option would have stressed the salary cap, and who knows if Watson would have suffered the same injury with the Bills, but what you would rather have right now: Deshaun Watson throwing to Watkins and Woods with Shady running against light fronts, or the "process?"
The fact that the Bills are again run by a front office who lacks the foresight to identify talent at key positions is frustrating.
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Just wanted to point this out. It was fully in the realm of possibility that the Bills could have had Deshaun Watson throwing the ball to Sammy Watkins and Robert Woods THIS season.
Instead we have process, and culture, a couple of cover 2 CBs, and a bunch of draft picks that we're praying the bozos in charge won't blow next draft. Oh, and 18 years; 18 years of no playoffs.
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7 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:
Go get your QB.
Do you think Philly and LA talking about the cost to get Wentz ans Goff
I think they already missed their chance when they passed on Watson last draft. If they pass up a franchise caliber QB to draft a CB to play in a cover 2 scheme, what makes you believe they won't make the same mistake next draft.
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1 minute ago, Buffalo30 said:
It's a rebuilding project that will take a few years. We have an old roster and these coaches inherited most of it...I just don't understand the constant turnover mindset and how it would be good for the franchise to not allow this regime to have a couple of years to build something. They haven't had a chance to get their guys on the roster? It's still been less than a year...
Inherited an old roster? You're kidding, right? Beane has done nothing but ship out young talent since arriving here. Woods and Watkins were both under 25. Dareus was 27. Jonathan Williams was 23. Under Beane, the average age of the team's running backs is 29. Beane extended the contract of 31 year old center Eric Wood. McDermott has benched John Miller in favor of 30 year old Vlad Ducasse. Beane chose to keep 34 year old Lorenzo Alexander while letting younger LBs walk.
Let's get the narrative right. This team is old because Beane and McDermott are building it to be old.
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2 minutes ago, estro613 said:
Yea, but Mike Schopp said that Tyrod is good, so I guess I'm supposed to believe him over what my eyes have shown me for the better part of 3 seasons.
Why are you worried about what Mike Schopp says? Beane and McDermott believe that Taylor is a starting NFL QB. That's what we all should be worried about.
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5 minutes ago, H2o said:
The offense has struggled, but I don't believe it's Dennison or the system's fault. His system has been successful in multiple places. He learned under Shanahan and Kubiak spending time with Denver, Houston, a stop in Baltimore as a QB coach, and then back to Denver before coming here.
The OL on the right side was never fixed. They blow up that side of the line every time. Then, because of the right side, they key on the left putting an extra defender or two. The holes for McCoy are nonexistent. The rushing game is not clicking because they can't block anyone in front of them. Terrible OL play.
We have all seen Tyrod. Most of us knew what he was while others pounded the table for him. He is not the guy. He still exhibits the same deficiencies that he has the last two years. He's a good guy, a hard worker, by all accounts a great teammate, and a decent game manager. He will never be a guy who carries a team with his arm. Peterman should at least be given the month of December to show what he's got. If he looks good then so be it. If not, we HAVE to identify our QB in the draft then make our move.
The WR talent is now there with Matthews, Benjamin, Jones, Thompson, Holmes, and Clay (when healthy). We have guys who have and can be productive. This again falls on the QB and the OL. The OL has to give the QB time to throw and the QB has to be able to read a defense then deliver an on time ball to the right guy.
Dennison's system is mainly short to intermediate timing routes with some deep passes mixed in off of play action. The emphasis is on an accurate QB who gets the ball out on time. A lot of times that QB is having to throw the ball to an opening where his guy will be, not waiting until your guy is open to throw it. None of these are strengths for Taylor. If the holes get filled the system will work.
We all got our hopes up when we won a few. Now everyone is looking for a place to lay the blame. Blame who you want, but I don't see this as Dennison's failure. He does what he can to try to cover up Tyrod's weaknesses, but with 3 years of tape it's damn near impossible.
I can completely blame Dennison, because if he's trying to play the system you describe with Taylor as QB, he's a moron.
Taylor does not make quick decisions and is not accurate. He's an option guy, makes plays outside the pocket, and makes plays over the top (well he used to do this).
The Bills first drive was a good match of Taylor's ability to scheme. The rest of the game, Dennison nailed Taylor in the pocket and it was a total failure.
If McDermott wants to keep Taylor is the starter, Dennison is going to have to change his play calling. The goal should be to get Taylor 60 yards rushing, and the scheme should be built off of that. Expecting Taylor to play from the pocket is suicide.
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5 minutes ago, joesixpack said:
Hate to break it to you, this staff won't survive another year with Tyrod. And we're likely to hit 19 with him in the lineup anyway.
Yeah, you're not breaking it to me. I'm resigned to the streak easily breaking two decades.
And even if they do dump Taylor, based on their current personnel decisions, I don't trust 'em to find the baby Jesus QB. These guys had Deshaun Watson served up to them in the draft this year and passed him up, probably due to culture or process or something stupid like that.
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Just now, joesixpack said:
Wonder why they didn't put up those numbers here? You know why. SAY IT.
Sure, the QB. We're all hoping we get our baby Jesus QB next year. One with laser accuracy, a cannon arm, football sense oozing out his ears, and a LOW CAP NUMBER.
Gee, what would go great with a QB like that? Maybe league best talent at WR?
We'll get the QB next year, he'll look like Goff did last season, and we'll all be bitchin he doesn't have anyone to throw to. Welcome to year 19 of the rebuild.
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3 minutes ago, njbuff said:
Do we need more proof of what a good QB can do for an entire organization than what fun Woods is having in LA?
Well Goff was looking like a bust before Woods, Kupp, and Watkins showed up.
Not to mention that Gurley is having a bounce-back year now that he's not facing 9 man boxes every game.
Bottom line is that the Bills front office looked at the WRs' cap space, injury history, and complaints to the media and were scared off. The Rams looked at the same things and weren't. The Rams now look like a power house, while the Bills are heading into the 18th year with out the playoffs.
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The Rams get the Bills WR corps from last year, and the Bills get the "process." Yay us.
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4 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:
The players don't match the system...the players can't do what they do best...how can we expect that to work? You have to wait until they bring in who they think will play well in their system, not judge them for taking over a team that has a roster that doesn't fit what they are trying to achieve. They need fast linebackers...who is on the roster? It won't work until they bring in the right players. Same thing goes for every position. If they don't fit the scheme...they usually don't play well. He hasn't proved he can't do the job yet, he hasn't been given the chance yet.
How about finding a coach how can create a scheme around the talent that is currently on the roster? That way we don't have watch the team dump young, highly drafted players every couple of years because they don't fit into the coach's modified Tampa 2 or moronic west coast scheme.
And if the scheme needs fast linebacker's why did they let Zac Brown walk? They could have drafted a good linebacker with the 10th pick last year, but traded back and took a cornerback. Tre White is a good player, but why the hell did McDermott spend a first round pick on a CB to play in a cover 2 scheme?
The front offense continues to make head-scratching moves, and the media and fans are more than happy to cover it all up by calling it the "process." I'm calling BS. These guys are clueless.
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Just now, Buffalo30 said:
Well I'd rather give ourselves a chance instead of sabotaging things by firing them mid-process. The constant turnover is the cause of this mediocrity. Can't keep switching schemes, it forces us to overhaul the entire roster...which takes time
I don't think this franchise can take 3 more years of Jauron 2.0.
I'm of the mind that you fire guys when they prove they can't do the job. The team's performance the last two weeks is a result of horrible personnel decisions and terrible coaching. If next year's draft doesn't result in better play on the field, Pegula should cut these losers and hire Jim Schwartz, something he should have done three years ago.
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8 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:
2017 doesn't matter, 2019-2021 does when this coaching staff has "their guys" on the roster
And then we learn that "their" guys aren't any better than the last guy's guys.
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McDermott is a fraud. Fire this loser at the end of the season and hire Schwartz. Can't take any more of this recycled Jauron-ball.
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"This team is not going to take chances throwing it down the field" Ladies and gentlemen, your 2017 Buffalo Bills
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The Bills have scored 20 or more points in their last 13 home games. Goes back to the 2015 season. It's the longest streak of this type in the NFL.
No doubt there has been defensive contributions to the point totals, but if someone were to define "sustainable" for me, this streak would fit under that definition.
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I think I've seen The Godfather at least 15 times. I don't think there's a penis joke in that movie but I may have to re-watch it.
However there is wife beating jon a pregnant woman....
There is a penis joke. It happens during the opening act, during Connie's wedding. Sonny's wife is a table with a group of women and is moving her hands apart, implying her husband is, uh, gifted. (This is also called out several times in the book). Meanwhile Sonny is upstairs in the house with a bridesmaid.
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The Bills will be able to do just about whatever they want next year with their current picks. However they choose to deal them, the important thing is making good picks. If they keep picking guys with the quality of White, they'll be fine.
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Again, career high pass attempts for Goff and zero catches for Watkins. Is he an upgrade? That being said, Woods looks good.
You're also assuming that the Bills and Rams would use the Watkins the same way. The Rams have Woods, Kupp, Austin, Watkins, and Higbee. Gurley also gets looks in the passing game. Watkins isn't playing an AJ Green or Julio Jones role in the offense. The key focal point has been Gurley. It looks like Watkins takes the deep routes and tries to open things up underneath.
Would the Bills use him the same way? Probably not, since the Bills don't have much other support in the WR corps. Watkins would get more looks with the Bills.
But even if they feel that they HAD to get rid of Watkins, not adding a down-field threat other than Watkins thru the draft or FA is hurting the team right now. There's is not a whole lot of room at the line of scrimmage for the running game to succeed. Having a guy to take the top of the defense would be helpful.
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All teams work in tandem. That's not unique to the Bills. McDermott may (and probably does) have more say than your typical HC. Chip Kelly was a better coach than he was a personnel guy. The point is that at some point we need to separate those 2 things, talent evaluation and coaching because they aren't the same.
We probably need to Beane to run his own draft before separating the two.
It's emerging right now, but the Bills did pass on Watson in the draft. It's beginning to look like he's a legit prospect and possibly a franchise quality QB. Who owns that decision? McDermott? Whaley? Beane on the down low?
Too much behind-the-scenes shenanigans right now, so it's easier to just lump them together.
Gameday Thread 1st Half Bills @ Chargers
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Right, cause the oline just started sucking THIS WEEK.
Taylor hid how s****t this oline has been the last two years.