Perry Turtle
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Cousins, Smith, Bradford are all a waste of time and money. The Bills need to draft a QB and start him his rookie year like the Eagles did with Wentz, the Cowboys did with Prescott, the Raiders did with Carr, and the Rams did with Goff (after initially wasting time on Keenum).
Buffalo has too many holes in the lineup to fill to waste a large amount of cap dollars on a caretaker QB who will keep them at 8-8. There are a few potential franchise QBs prospects in the draft. The Bills have the draft ammo to get one of those guys. After cutting Taylor, the Bills won't be on the hook for a huge QB contract; they could use that money to build around their young QB, like the Rams, Raiders, and Eagles did the last couple of seasons.
And if the rookie QB doesn't pan out, at least the Bills will be able to recognize the mistake quickly and take action to fix it the next season.
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The backup RB position has been bungled all season. It's not difficult to find a backup RB in the NFL, which makes the Bills handling of the position malpractice on the part of the GM and coaches.
Imagine if the Bills had drafted their franchise QB their season; how would you feel watching him run open sets with Tolbert in the slot? Would you believe that would be an example of setting up a young QB for success.
And if this was a "process" decision, I want nothing to do with the process.
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Just now, row_33 said:
They call all whatever the frig they want to
That's a valid perception. You'd think that after 7 years of this nonsense they would do something to fix it.
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2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
"Survive the ground" has no real definition and is subjective. That's the problem.
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Just now, 26CornerBlitz said:
It's a rule, but it's terrible in cases like this.
Here's the problem, at what point do you "land." When your knee hits the ground? Elbow? Shoulder? Face?
When does the process of the catch end for a player hitting the turf?
A player with the ball in his hands on his knees isn't considered "landed?" It's a poorly written rule that is poorly applied.
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8 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:
Desperate? They were on the 5 and a FG ties the game and sends it into OT. There should been no desperation. Also the call was correct per the rule, hate the rule but it was called correct. Before you argue more it wasn't. Seeing as how Romo even said it was being called back makes it obvious to a train eye the ball hit the ground this incomplete. Hate the rule but not the call.
The pass was desperate because when it was snapped it had no chance of working. The confusion on the play call, NE with DBs hanging out in the endzone, again, no chance.
As for the call, my position is that the catch process was complete when James knee was on the ground. After that he was a runner who broke the plane of the goal line.
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Just now, PatsFanNH said:
Ya that was a stupid call by Big Ben throw into triple coverage. A real crap call!
The desperation call after the Refs stole a TD from the Steelers? Yeah that was a bad play call.
The NFL coaching ranks are made up of 31 idiots and one idiot savant.
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Just now, PatsFanNH said:
Umm did I say FANS? Wow you regressed fast! I said TEAM as in Big Ben and their coach.. and have you an example from this game post game of Big Ben throwing his coach under the bus! But yes that's the same as fans whining. (Eye roll)
Okay, then I'll pull Kraft's press conference about Goodell's ruling.
By the way, the Steelers lost on a crap call today.
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1 minute ago, Jukester said:
To me it's simple, once the receiver has the ball in both hands and two feet down in bounds (or a knee, elbow, hip, etc...) he has possession. After that if the ball pops out, it's a fumble. If he crosses the plane of the goal line, it's a touchdown. Forget all the 'football move' and did he 'complete the catch' bs and keep it simple.
But as it stands, i don't know why receivers aren't more conscious of holding the ball all the way through.
I agree with you wholeheartedly.
The reason why receivers don't hold the ball all the way through is because they're trying to make football moves, not trying to fulfill some byzantine rule set defined by confused committee.
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1 minute ago, PatsFanNH said:
No he didn't, it was the right call. As for not whining to the media, it's obvious the Bills have minimal contact with Chef and the whining by Steelers. Heck Big Ben is blaming the coach for the INT. So trust me they be whining to the media if they thought they were screwed.. mind you they will lose to the Jags in the divisional round and their will not be a rematch.
Right, and Pats fans NEVER whine.
Brady DESERVED that suspension last season because Goodell as completely within his power to suspend him, and the evidence that the NFL collected showed without a shadow of a doubt that the Pats tampered with game balls.
I'm sure that Pats fans were completely fine with that ruling and accepted it all without complaint.
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1 minute ago, PatsFanNH said:
Which he did not! Even the steeler coach didn't argue about the call. And trust me he is a big old whined he would have!
He did. Tomlin didn't want to argue it in the media, but it's obvious he sees it for what it is, a bullcrap call.
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Just now, PatsFanNH said:
It was called correctly. He has to maintain control ALL the way to the ground which includes contact with said ground.
When he has possession of the ball and his knee is on the ground he is ALL THE WAY TO THE GROUND. If he's touched there, the play would be over and the ball spotted inside the one.
Any other definition of 'all the way to the ground' beyond the standard rule of knee, elbow, backside is subjective. You can't have a different definition of being on the ground for a tackle and a catch.
Crap call.
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8 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:
Both his knee and elbow hit the ground before the ball shifts, after breaking the plane.
Total crap call.
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In 2010 the NFL referee made a horrible call on Calvin Johnson's TD that wasn't. The NFL has spent the last seven years creating the most obtuse rules in sport to define what a catch is to justify that horrible Calvin Johnson call.
For every other play in football, a player is defined to be on the ground when a knee hits the ground, or an elbow, or a player's backside. That goes for tackles, plays on the sideline, fair catches. It's for everything but a catch, because as we saw today, a player had the ball in both hands, with a knee on the ground was not considered to have taken the catch "to the ground."
Easy fix here is to say if a player has possession of the ball, and a knee, elbow, or rump hits the ground, whether the player is contacted or not, the catch is considered to be "taken to the ground." It's common sense that would remove the air of corruption that stinks up the league today.
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Just now, Avisan said:
He was going to the ground and his extension did nothing to interrupt that process.
This. Is. Basic. Stuff.
HE WAS ALREADY ON THE GROUND. The first few replays on the broadcast showed focused on that his knee was on the ground SHORT of the goaline, but was not touched. He had possession of the ball, short of the goaline and then extended the ball.
This. Was. A. Crap. Call.
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2 minutes ago, Avisan said:
Having a hand under the ball doesn't mean he was controlling it. Rear point drags on the ground, which means the ground helped him control it. Basic stuff, ya'll.
The ground never helped him CONTROL the ball. He had control of the ball when he move the ball to his body and then extended it to break the plan of the goal line, (with a knee on the ground). The ball shifted after it broke the goal line.
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1 minute ago, Avisan said:
He has to MAINTAIN possession. It's part of catching the ball when going to ground.
The ball can shift. The ball can't shift and touch the ground. The moment the point hit the ground, no catch.
He had a knee ON THE GROUND with the ball IN BOTH HANDS. He then extended the ball and broke the plane, and the ball "hit the ground."
Bullcrap rule, bullcrap call, bullcrap league.
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Just now, Avisan said:
Stretching out to score in no way interrupted his going to the ground, though, which is why he needs to maintain possession.
Stretching out to score is a "football move." Or it's not, based on the officiating crew, the team playing, the time left in the game, or the weather.
That's the problem. There's no definition for a "football move," which determines possession.
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2 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:
my thought was he had possession, reached across the goal line (TD right there) with the ball in his hands and came down on he ball IN the end zone and it bobbled some from coming down on it?
why is it that it was always my understanding that the ball crossing the goal line was a TD?
is this a new rule or are pockets being laced once again for the cheaters**? some want to be snide about commenting on not watching anymore, but you have to admit, seeing **** like that has ruined the nfl. they suck for that call, big time.
The problem is that there are two rules for crossing the goal line based on a run or pass and the idiots and morons who run the league have never fixed it.
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1 minute ago, Avisan said:
You guys aren't thinking straight about this.
He was going to the ground as part of the process of making the catch. He dives for it-- he HAS to maintain possession throughout. His hand is under the ball, but it moves and touches the ground slightly-- the ground has officially helped him control the ball, which invalidates the catch.
It was the right call. Painful, but the right call.
The problem is that the "complete the process of the catch" is an ill-defined crap rule. The guy moved the ball into his body, extended forward, but didn't have control or possession? It's ridiculous. That was a catch, he had possession before he extended his hands.
Fans pay to see plays like this. They don't pay to watch 70 year old accountants in stripped shirts squinting at a replay over and over, trying to find a slight error to get their big moment to overturn a play made by a real athlete.
And despite the total BS this rule has called in the past, the ivory-tower executives have done nothing to fix it. Screw the NFL, if you give reason to believe that your league is corrupt, people are going to believe that it is corrupt.
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This is the most over-officiated crap league in the world. Why let the talent of the athletes determine the winner of the game, when you can rely on a pencil-necked 70 year old geek with a tablet to figure out the winner.
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The guy who is not injured will start, so Joe Webb.
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McDermott the fraud. Just another clueless loser in a long line of them as Bills coaches.
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1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
Silly? This is Gronk we're talking about. Belichick often shakes his head and keeps it moving.
That's because Belichick coaches to win Super Bowls and other coaches coach to teach after-school-special lessons.
When Carr lights up the Chiefs secondary Sunday, and the Chiefs lose, continuing their season ending death spiral, at least they'll know that leaving the field during a game is wrong, and knowing is half the battle.
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Let him walk. There is no reason to pay a CB top dollar in a cover 2 scheme, which the Bills play. Spend that money on the defensive line.