Perry Turtle
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Barkley is going to eat Fromm's lunch. Fromm is Peterman 2.0.
Maybe Beane will be able to trade Fromm to the Raiders for a 7th during preseason.
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Just now, Warcodered said:
I mean who are they getting in the 3rd to replace Tom Brady?
They need to wait till the 6th round to do that.
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5 hours ago, Mountain Man said:
I prefer the new Browns uniforms, they are classic style again which they should never have messed with. The Chargers ones will be like the old Buccs ones, unwatchable in bright sunlight and the numbered helmets as bad as the Buccs modern number font
The new Charger uniforms are also in the classic style, with the main set calling back to the 60s with yellow pants and numbers on the helmets.
I like how they paid homage to each era of the team, but didn't try to do it all in one uniform (like three different shades of blue on one jersey).
The font for the numbers might not wear well though. A traditional font would probably hold up better than the stylized one.
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57 minutes ago, /dev/null said:
Worst: JP Losman. His terrible performance coupled with the trade up with the Cowboys. If the Bills hadn't made this trade, the following year they could have drafted Aaron Rodgers
Best: Kyle Williams. A 5th round steal
This is the hands-down winner. Not only did the Bills draft a bust QB, but the trade up cost them the opportunity to draft a HOF QB the next season. It's a bust topped-off with a kick to the groin.
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2 hours ago, Bob in STL said:
True. We have had very few QB controversies in Bills history. Probably because we have had so few good QBs.
There was Flutie v. Johnson, by far the biggest.
There was a time when some fans screamed for Lamonica every time Kemp slipped up.
I even recall people thinking that Gary Mairangi might be better than Joe Ferguson. Of course when he had his chance he proved to be not even close.
Over 60 years that is not much … I would not be concerned if they draft another QB (later in the draft) should the board work out that way. That is not a reflection on Allen either, I think this is his team.
How many reps did Mahommes get in his rookie year?
If the Bills want to trade up in the 1st round to draft a QB of the future like the Chiefs did, sure go for it. If Beane is finished with Allen and is willing to spend the capital to move up, it would be a good move.
But we can all probably agree that Beane isn't looking to replace Allen this season? Right?
And there really is no comparison between Mahommes and late round development prospect (kind of like Cardale Jones vs Mahommes), true?
So rather wasting a pick on the next Nathan Peterman THIS draft, the Bills should use the pick help the special teams or an offensive or defensive package.
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Drafting a QB to develop this season would be a waste of a draft pick. QBs need reps to develop, and those will be in short supply with the covid-impacted off-season schedule. Not to mention that Allen is still a young QB, who will need all the reps he can get to continue his development.
Give Allen a couple of more years to establish himself with an OC who doesn't change the playbook every season, and then draft a 'development' QB. Wait until the team is in position to actually give a young QB the reps to develop.
Until then, spend the late-rounders on special teams and package players. They will contribute more to the team uring the season than an emergency QB.
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On 4/10/2020 at 2:55 PM, Happy Gilmore said:
This is too bad, I wanted to see the XFL succeed. At the very least, it would have become a minor league for the NFL where borderline NFL caliber players could play. IMO, the NFL needs something like this as college is not doing anything to prep these young guys for the pros and there is no where else for borderline pro players to learn and get better, aside from the practice squads.
I don't believe the XFL was ever in competition with the NFL, otherwise the season would have coincided, which would have been dumb for the XFL to even attempt.
College football is the greatest feeder league in all sports. No minor league can match college football's coaching, facilities, or coverage. 99.999% of all NFL All-Pros and Hall-of-Famers played college football.
Funding a pro league to develop 'borderline' players is an incredible waste of money. The NFL figured this out years ago, and that's why they had no interest in investing any resources in any of these expensive and foolish start-up leagues.
The NFL is more than happy with the NCAAF as their 'minor' league. They will never invest in their own minor league. Any hope that a start up league has of becoming a feeder league is just delusional fantasy.
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What Beane did for the offensive line last year in FA, he's doing for the defensive line this FA. These are impressive, under-the-radar signings.
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No funny business here.
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The Pats have never won the Super Bowl without having the bye.
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35 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:
Absolutely not, draft Jonathan Taylor in the late 1st and you've got 2 great rbs for the next 5 years. Get your wr in the 2nd and use FA for your de....
I'd rather they sign a RB in FA for 5-7 million than draft one in the first round.
Edge rusher and WR should be a target in the first round. If you draft a RB in the first and sign an edge or WR in FA, the team will spend upwards of 12 to 14 million.
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A more relevant question is why does no one ever cover Edelman? Why does nobody stick a guy like Tre White on him the entire game, and blitz the hell out of Brady?
Why does no one do THAT?
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Human interest stories have been a part of prime time football since the beginning of prime time football. Howard Cosell's job wasn't breaking down blitz packages.
Hard core football fans are a given. Hell, we'll watch the Bengals play the Giants on a Monday night. Networks try to create narratives to expand the audience to casual viewers.
In the early 70s half the audience watched MNF to see if Dandy Don would finally be liquored up enough to punch Howard in the mouth. And the audience ate it up.
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3 hours ago, Virgil said:
The NFL needs to step in and make some form of supplement league. Between the XFL, CFL, and other startups, there’s clearly a demand for it, but they can’t compete.
With the amount of college players, who’ve ever else out there, they should be some form of league that can run in the spring, where the best players can transition to teams for training camp.
If I knew the Bills had a minor league type team that they share with other teams, I would watch that
The investment dollars to do this would be astronomical. The schools in the top 5 conferences maintain NFL-level facilities and pay their coaches millions of dollars. The NCAA has massive TV contracts and booster support that provide revenue that a NFL D-league could never match.
And in the end, the NFL doesn't even need a minor league. Unlike the NHL and MLB, the NFL draft age is 20 years old, not 18. So 18 and 19 year old football players develop in extremely well-funded, first-rate football factories.
The XFL will crash and burn, just like the other attempts to start a new league every other year. Just another delusional rich guy burning money on an ego trip. Between the NFL and NCAA, the market is closed to a new league, especially one that is built on spare parts from the other leagues.
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Just now, Seven-N-Nine said:
He was pretty decent at it last season, WTF could have happened...
They're pounding it into his head that he can't throw interceptions and it's impacting his throws.
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Let's see if our franchise guy can start playing like an legit NFL QB instead of a wildcat RB.
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22 hours ago, Buffalo Junction said:
They can alway bring back Murphy or Ivory. Neither of which will have to learn the playbook. They aren’t great talents, but they’re plug and play.
The Bills are in the midst of a playoff run. Is 'plug and play' good enough for a playoff run?
If the trade terms are accurate, and they are probably not, I'd rather play in NE with Gordon on the roster instead of Murphy, Ivory, or even Yeldon.
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3 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said:
Singletary is the RB, he's cheap for the next 3-4 years.
He looks great, but he's also a rookie who is undersized and injured. Gore is 36 years old, and while he's also played great, you have to wonder where his health will be 8 games from now.
If Gore or Singletary go down around game 11, the Bills will be stuck with Yeldon, who the coaches do not seem to trust.
The trade as proposed (which probably will never happen) does not replace Gore or Singletary, it replaces Yeldon with a better rental player for a playoff run.
The team is no longer in a rebuilding mode. If they are serious about making a run, they will have to consider these types of deals.
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Stupid play call.
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18 minutes ago, mjt328 said:
I'm usually not a fan that likes pointing fingers at coaches, but today's playcalling from Brian Daboll was atrocious.
It seems like we came into the game absolutely DETERMINED to hit a big play in the passing game. Almost like we saw something in film during the week, and figured we could attack the Patriots secondary downfield. Which is fine. But it only took about 2-3 drives to realize Belichick's defensive strategy was to stop the deeper passes.
This was a day for patience and rhythm in the passing game. This was a day for controlling the ball with our run game. Where were the slants, the quick curls, the quick outs, or the screens? Why didn't we run some draws? When Josh Allen was standing back there holding the ball for 5-6 seconds waiting for someone to get open, why didn't we have a check-down available. Every bit of success we had on offense was on the underneath routes, or on big runs by Frank Gore. It really appeared we made some adjustments at halftime. But on the next drive, we were back to the long-developing pass plays - which continued to FAIL miserably.
Need to see the all-22, but my guess is that those passes were there and Allen didn't take them. Hard to believe that the goal was to get Zay Jones deep for any reason other than clearing out a zone for an underneath pass.
Allen held onto the ball way too long today. Hard to believe that was the gameplan. He was playing too much hero ball.
This was the first game I got the feeling that McDermott lost control a bit.
Those challanges weren't needed because of the play of the defense. He needed to trust them more to overcome iffy calls, and save the timeouts. Like Allen, he was playing hero ball with those challenges.
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Just now, Chandler#81 said:
You’re asking me? You’re not new here. You know what a crapshow it turns into.
Yes, 1 thread for crybabies. Think for a few hours, then make a reasoned thread.
Because that's what being a fan is, reasoned thinking?.
How about you just shut the whole board down after every game until 8am Monday morning? That will give time for more scholarly thought.?
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Needed a big red-zone target today. Jones isn't that guy. It's time to call up Williams.
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He held onto the ball way too long today, something he started doing last week. His downfield accuracy was horrible. Throwing into double-coverage off his back foot is inexcusable. The sack before the half was a killer.
Not sure where he goes from here. The first three games was spent trying to get him play within the context and rhythm of the offense. Today he just blew that away.
And Duke Williams needs to take Zay Jones roster spot now. Could have used a big red-zone receiver today. Zay isn't that guy, and offers little else to the offense.
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Rd 5, Pick 167: QB Jake Fromm, Georgia
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Totally.
Fromm doesn't have a better skillset than Barkley. Barkley has experience in the NFL and the Bills offense.
Come preseason, Barkley will be the obvious 2nd string QB, and Fromm will have more value as a trade asset than the emergency QB.