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Interesting on the note about Tom not having one pass going 20 yards. I wished we would have forced his hand to beat us deep. The dink and dunk has beaten a lot of teams for years.

It's probably about time for him. Great career. Won't miss seeing him play.

Nice Summary, As rough as the first half went, much media and even a few of my pats friends came away with positive praise for Allen. Unlike some of our own fan base lol He played a solid game against a top defense. I am excited that we finally have a Quarterback who is a playmaker. The first Touchdown was a beautiful throw. The throw to Smoke basically moving backwards with a flick of the wrist-50 yards on a dime. That was just crazy and such a nice change from our QB's of the past 20 years. I am glad he's ours! NE has an advantage in coaching. They did some great stuff like bringing in a LB to lead the way for Sony. I think some of the Bills players themselves mentioned how hard it was to recognize whether it was a pass or run. I am still not sure what our game plan was? We seemed happy to sit back and let Brady throw into our zone all day. Tre should have been shadowing Edleman all day. I really thought our D was going to head into this and lay a physical beating. Your right about no moral victories and we will always be in the shadows to NE until we go out and win of these games. Maybe however we were due for a bit of a letdown-not in the sense that we were not up for the game or prepared. But we have had a pretty tough stretch of games starting with Baltimore. All physical games. A bit of relief that no matter what we were in. I think we have a good thing with Dawson, enough so that I wouldn't make a TE a priority in the offseason. Another solid WR in draft, free agency is a must. I think Cole and Beasley would flourish with one more. If we want to play a lot of 3 wr sets, I am not sure Mackenzie, Foster, Roberts are really cutting it. We our going to need our best gameplans for WC weekend. No need to hold anything back and let our guys loose. Hopefully we get a lot of rest and be ready to go!

Let me add Allen sucks one more time please!

We might as well sit Taron Johnson because I am sure someone will come up with brilliant strategy of having him covering Hopkins if we play the Texans Wild Card.

Sorry your right on the above point!

To go a bit further I criticize Josh on the throws to Knox in the end zone. Going forward he needs to continue to work on nailing this down. Actually just to make you all happy I’m not going to get bent out shape about missing a seven yard pass anymore. I’ll scream but move on. I’m not going to start a new thread and call for a new quarterback change every time he misses a short one. I will gladly accept those misses. Because as long as we are in the game we have a chance. He showed me so much with two throws this past game that defenses have to absolutely respect. He chucked it 50 yards on a dime with a flick of a wrist. That’s playmaker ability. So in the spirit of Christmas, If you are truly unhappy and have an infatuation with Lamar or Mahomes or Kyle Allen, Brandon Allen, Duck please go and follow them. Many of you propped them up big time this season. If you want to stick on board , please do. Josh will be here for two more years at least and so will I.

We have ten wins this season and possibly 11. Been in every game and have turned the corner in year 3. We are set up for sustainable future success. It’s been such a fun season to enjoy for a change from the past 20 years. The only negativity has come from this board about our second year quarterback week in and week out. Our qb has 27 Total td to 9 ints. He is on the path to have a lot of success in this league. Most of us objective fans have no problem criticizing when warranted and we will. But again we realize this is year 2 and expect to see even more improvement next year. It sucks some of you haven’t been able to enjoy this season and only come to chat when we lose, never hear a peep during a win..

Next year nobody is going to want to Play us. The process continues upward.

A chance to go back to Nashville? We had a lot of fun there and was a quick flight down!

Hmm. You could be right. I guess my next question is why. Are we saving certain schemes for playoffs? What’s most annoying is having to listen to Pats fans think their offense is back.

What do you make of the lack of defensive pressure? Do you think it was game plan? Like clearly Brady this season has not been good when pressured. It really frustrates me that we just let him sit back. I also agree that Tre should have taken Edelman all day. The other wr’s like Harry etc have really shown nothing all season. Do you think we had some carryover fatigue from Pittsburgh?

I agree with you. We did play the Cowboys really good and our game plan was a thing of beauty against the Ravens. We really did a great job on Lamar. All I’m saying it’s that I can’t pin this all on Josh. He made two Incredible throws to get us the points we did. In time we will see if he can correct the issues that plague him. The fact that he had no ints against a defense that creates many and usually scores points on those turnovers is positive in my mind. I’m honestly most disappointed from a pure game plan aspect. I don’t like anything we did against them offensively. The pats are not a good offense. Brady is not what he used to be and I question why Taron Johnson is one on one with Edelman. We made life to easy for him. I’m bummed because I thought today was the day. I do think they will be ready to go in wildcard!

I agree completely with you. I thought we would come after him, try to hit him as much as possible. Tom is not the same player as years ago with pressure on him.

I agree, I just get tired of josh threads lol

Ok But you just mentioned we were squeaking out wins against bad teams. So is our d that good? or is because we have played bad teams? I like our D But today We got killed in time of possession we gave up over 400 yards to an offense that for the past number of weeks has been dreadful. We got no pressure on Brady and had them pinned on the one yard line. It was not A Good day for the d. What stops our d from Being elite is lack of turnovers against good offenses. I’m not excusing Josh play but the pin it one guy over and over is just crazy. Also considering how he played the first time against the pats. It was an improvement

Who out there is franchise? Your looking for a hall of famer. Most franchise in the past twenty years haven’t sniffed a hall of famer. Deshawn Watson doesn’t look great every game. Other than Mahomes who do you want? and I disagree I think Josh has won us a lot of games this season and our defense has come up average in others. there is no way we should make the 2019 pats look like 2001.

This was a team loss. We needed better coaching. We needed a better gamelan. We needed better qb play, offensive line play. Defensive Side of the ball play. But we still had a chance. We are tough, but more often than not we outsmart ourselves and out executed today. Every position from coaches onto the players need to get better. Wild card in two weeks!

I doubt a guy who’s putting up like 27 tds gets benched. His second season has been a huge improvement. That second td thrown today is the kind of play that I love and can come at any time. His effort is undeniable. His work ethic will take him far. Some say we are wasting our defense.our d got manhandled today even if we held them to field goals at time.

My issue with this Line of thinking is that’s it’s not really realistic because this is the team we have decided to build. Any team can say that a top ten qb on their roster may take them to the next level especially ours. But why? because our defense is top of the league. Maybe if the d we saw in Pittsburgh showed up today. But again, I don’t look at what if..we can only control our future with the players we have right now. We are rolling with Josh who has had a big part of our record being what it is. I’m fine with that. we have to remember this is only year two. I think many including myself are jumping the gun on expectations. We have had a great season regardless. But the closer you get to the dance, the more we expect from our team. I expected a much better performance from the entire team today. We got beat in the trenches and killed In time of possession. We had them backed up at the one yard line. No way should we be allowing them To gain much more than a first down. We would probably agree on this with our penetrating d line, and shutdown corner? ill say it again. I was more disappointed that we didn’t match the intensity physically and I didn’t understand a lot of the game plan.

In my opinion that’s the wrong defense to play on Brady at this point in his career. He is not great with pressure up the middle and we should be daring him to make plays with his arm. allowing him to sit back and throw His dink and dunk has just become tiresome. however with that being said I thought we would own the lime of scrimmage..

I agree and have to question why we didn’t? I just don’t understand our game plans at times.

I agree and this is the team we have Built and are building for the future. We are getting better but I was feeling we were ready take a next step today. Close but not good enough. I am just confused with the game plan.I’m confused with any team that lets Edelman beat you. Even the announcers that I was listening to on the radio were like the pats even would double team their own guy. I didn’t expect for Josh to play lights out. He made some huge throws And runs to give us a chance. But his first half was atrocious. We need a full game from him against a top team. He has to be a lot better. I wish we would try to establish a Rhythm with him early, but our opening drive we run like seven straight plays and then throw on a 3rd and long. Josh needs to get it going early . But our d has to be better. Maybe that’s why I’m disappointed. I thought we Would get after and pound Brady. Make him think twice but far to often he could sit back there and pick us apart. To me this is a total team loss on all sides of the ball up to coaching. We need to figure this garbage out. We have two weeks.

Yeah I just don’t get at. We have mean nasty young players who should be hungry. We sit back and let Brady make plays all day. Every game I have watched the pats the last few weeks he has sucked with pressure in his face. How long did it take to double Edelman. Why are we not taking him out of the game from first snap.

Most disappointing to me is that we got beat physically.