Sojourner

Doug would have him frowning, you can bank on that.

LOL Is this a game of Madden?!?

Well... It's not just the Bills who have horrible lapses in pass coverage at crucial times.

Cool tidbit. The path that betters one is not always the optimum route.

I don't like many of the SEC backs to be honest, they do however produce gaudy numbers in college. Don't see that turning into an anomaly any time soon either. This Bell kid though. Stud!

I understand your point and it does have some absolute validity to professional translation. But when you can put Emmit Smith, Herschel and Bo Jackson in one list, it's golden.

Fair enough. I personally think it's a level playing field. If it's a pure numbers game of the most productive college backs who get drafted, SEC all the way.

Buckeye blinkers?

HA!

Nice save .

Where? In college, absolutely. Can't say I ever thought the Jags or the Falcons were offensive juggernauts when he was calling the plays...

After his antics in Atlanta, I hope to never see Bobby on an NFL sideline.

And as George Iles once said: "Hope is faith holding out it's hand in the dark." Until we find our guy or E.J. moves on, I'll continue to be the eternal optimist.

Still don't understand your point that he doesn't possess a single intangible to be an NFL QB, no. I am not at all stating Manuel will be even a decent QB, I just have hope that maybe the kid comes good.

Every one? So seeing as you know, do enlighten us all what every intangible is. And please, refrain from dipping into the Kiper/Mayock pot that you hear on the television.

Speaking of journey men... Fitz has hit the bench in Houston. Maybe he can come back, ?

There's plenty of reasons for both arguments, more-so for him to be shown the door though. I am going to respond like I did in the other thread that loosely covers this topic: Marrone should be here for three reasons: Whether people on this board detest Manuel or not, it is irrelevant. He's Doug's guy and we need to see maybe some stars have aligned and we have the player the staff and fans hoped for when he was drafted. I think if indeed Marrone was given marching orders come the end of this season, whomever stepping in would be getting a hard deal. Orton/Manuel/Tuel doesn't scream long-term answers - yet. I would not for a second like to see this defense go through another coaching staff change. There is absolutely no way, even though Schwartz has pulled this defense up a notch, that he should take over the reigns (which would be the only way that doesn't happen). I just want to see that maybe, this coaching staff can get things right. Especially with the hole we are in for next year's draft if there is big time struggles down the last 6 game stretch. Either that or there's wins... One more year can't hurt.

If I am not mistaken, their OLine has had just as many, if not more turnstiles than Pears and Williams/Richardson over the past few seasons. My point is that irrespective of what the boneheaded decision that has been made, Smith certainly has a plethora, the Quarterback's they play have been the large part for a lot of the team and their fallacies being overlooked during their tenures. And Matt Ryan, while he isn't playing the level that is expected he still is a decent option at QB and can win you games. Then again, you post is basically stating that Mike Smith isn't the sole reason that team has turned from a contender into a complete bottom feeder. Even though he's playing bad - Ryan is the only thing on that team that I actually see winning them games.

What do you class as fall? There isn't exactly the same premium placed on backs as there was 5/10+ years ago. He'll go anywhere between the first and second (#12-64). However I doubt he makes it past the 50's. Precisely. That's something I give Billy a lot of credit for: knowing when to get rid of a player whilst they still have value.

Gurley is a potential monster but what good is he if our QB situation and OLine is still a mess? None. After watching this nobody last night for the Pats* it should be more evident that if an offense has the right nucleus; line and QB, then even role players can succeed and dominant a game from time to time. I would like Gurley but not with Freddie, Boobie, Brown and a potential CJ in the backfield next season. Priorities. Priorities. Priorities.

Given the moves now, yes, we did overspend. Though I cannot falter the move if that's who they felt we needed to turn things around, even though a 2015 1st rounder would be nice. I mean, whilst EJ never wowed be during his rookie season, I did have the expectation that he could and maybe even would grow into the role of a starting QB if things fell into place (especially with Sammy and the other offensive weapons) - it's happened to several quarterbacks over the years. Edit: Currently, they have to be ranked: OBJ, Benjamin, Watkins/Cooks, Brown, Evans and then Landry/Matthews.

Because he had that game against the Steelers in which he dominated. Every reason to be scared Jimmy.

I would actually disagree. They wouldn't exist without one another. If Brady doesn't have the ability to lean on the defense during the 2001, 2003 and 2004 season, there is no way they make the dance. Frankly, the teams they put a whooping on during those seasons didn't exactly have respectable or stellar defenses. And vice-versa, if Billy boy doesn't have Tommy the past 5-6 years, I highly doubt that he would even be around. In essence, their scenario was just destined to be intertwined. One would not be without the other.

Given the current situation and QB play, I don't mind letting Marrone stick around for at least one more season. If would be unfair for a new HC to inherit Orton/Manuel/Tuel.