Sojourner

Vintage Pro Bowl John Butler! Hawaii here we come!!!

Very fair perspective. Could very well be. Like many things we’ll never know. Logically you’d like to think that a HC and a HC candidate could make a decision against something you struggled with the week before and we’re struggling and getting stopped on again. I just don’t see Reid and his guy Nagy (even though you know the plays are Reid’s decision finally) doing anything remotely similar. They’re running that play more than once just to set you up for something else. Plenty of opportunity to add a wrinkle in. Again, our obsession was ultimately our demise.

Yeah, I get that which is why I highlighted that too. But come on man… you’re talking about an OC that was in consideration for a HC job himself. he has to do better without being told.

cant disagree with most of what’s being said but the fact at the start of the presented argument where Colin puts the failure to convert short yardages on McD is weird. McD made the right decisions to go for it each and every time. Play calling put them in a bad position to be in where they had to go for that several times. Play calling and execution was the reason we didn’t convert. Can’t put that on McD. What I do put on McD is why he didn’t assert to Brady to stop going to it. Like dude said… Pivot away from it when it’s not working. Our obsession was our demise.

It’s all his fault! We brought the living curse back!

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Sounds perfect. And for that reason, it won’t happen lol

Lol it was a joke dude. He’s not getting paid by the team still. But he was being paid by Jacksonville and Buffalo at the same time, why not a third team? 🥁

It should be Terry telling the coaching staff. Not Josh. This is his last season. Now it’s always a year to year league but going to make acquisitions that you would think improve the roster in the staff’s mind. You either a) have continuity in the core staff and players like the Chiefs or b) you make changes in the staff and players you need to accentuate Super Bowl aspirations like Philadelphia. We have tried the option a. It hasn’t cut the mustard. You now go to option b like Philly did. All their additions to staff and roster is why they’re in the Super Bowl. Sure, drafting has something to do with it but the players who’ve shined the brightest this year, especially in the playoffs were added in some aspect be it this year or prior. AJ Brown & Darius Slay from prior. Saquon, CJGJ & Zack Baun this year. On top of that, they’ve absolutely knocked it out of the park with some of their picks. Especially the past 2 drafts. We don’t have the means to pay or bring in high end talent. I doubt we trade for it and the picks where the biggest necessity for immediate impact are made just haven’t cut it. The later rounds being fantastic can’t be an excuse any more. They need to make home run moves like Philly did this past draft and FA window. McD makes the Super Bowl or you move on. No if’s and’s or but’s.

Who else loves rebuild years?!?

In terms of a throw for a first, Kincaid was way more open that Shakir as #10 is behind the LOS. If Josh steps into that throw it’s a routine catch. The play was made by Josh. The only other guy in the league probably making that throw was on the other sideline. Josh did his part. A catchable ball. There’s nothing else to it man, made up for his mistake if you will.

Overhaul the defense? It’s needed. That way too much time and investment to sink in again. Trade it for a pass rusher, a proven one in the league as that’s where we lost defensively last night. Groot was tragic. Assign the premium picks to Josh and the offense then add to defense where it’s needed. We are drafting a Corner or DE. 100%. I don’t blame them. They’re the biggest weaknesses last night defensively. The biggest problem I have with last night… Do you know who #9 is for the Chiefs? Ju-Ju Smith-Shuster. Do you know how many of our defenders got taken out of the play by Ju-Ju on the 2nd & 9 to essentially ice the game on the throw to Pacheco? THREE. By a 210lb WR… Nothing else needs to be said.

I thought it was a pipe dream and still do. But if there is a chance he’s available, get him. Trade them Groot in the package too ffs. We had none that wasn’t gifted to use via errors last night. Sink as much resources into continuing improvement offensively but if you can part some of the draft for a proven commodity instead of going back to hope and development for a guy, do it.

Josh made the initial error by sliding that protection. He absolved himself by somehow making a ridiculous throw that was catchable. Torrence and Edwards, ouch. That hurts to watch for the 10th time. Not going in-depth as it’s pretty clear to see the error. The fact the LG is chasing towards one of the 2 guys that Torrence let free is the ball game. That throws is breadbasket to Kincaid if Josh steps into it. Kincaid is the end result, not the biggest to blame in a series of events but the buck stops at him. It’s in the arms. You have to catch that.

When we getting a Lombardi donated to us?

We’re still paying him, Jacksonville’s still paying him and next the Patriots will. Man, what a life!!!

I went through the draft threads a week or so ago and so the majority advocating for a trade up for Brian Thomas Jr. if he gets to 20. Really feel we get the #1 seed with him. And this team plays their best @ home. 3 games against top tier QBs away this year and we gave up 35/44/42 points. All in losses. Defense is the root of our failings and that’s something I can never deny or be reluctant to agree about. But fixing that requires multiple things. We’ve already sunk the resources heavily into it and have seen not a great result. One singular player could have moved the needle. I love Hollins but when he’s your deep threat it’s not crippling teams. There’s no speed and it’s been a problem all year. Firmly believe the schemes we would have seen last night would be vastly different with a #2 guy who can get second level and on top of a secondary quickly. If we are addressing anything it’s that, there’s too much needed to fix the defense to be reliable in one offseason.

Better than the drought years, didn’t have the team relocate, getting a new stadium in 2026 and still have Josh. A lot of positives. The unfortunate in this is we lose. To the same team. Again and again and again. Only 2 players showed up all game and one frequently. Josh, Cook and Ed. The coaches let the players down. The players let themselves down. Collectively they let every fan down. Need some serious changes of personnel on and off the field.

In all my years of seeing plays, formations on both white board, TV or books there is very few times anyone should think the blitz is coming from that alignment. That screams a rat concept of it’s a blitz. Mike is buzz a gap all day. Why on earth would be slide left?!?! Why on earth would you not have Ty Johnson in the backfield instead of split out on the LOS next to Brown?! A lot of follies in that play. Again, biggest of all is Torrence having the 2 players lined up right in from of him flash past free for the pressure. Probably not as Reid builds a lot of stuff into formations that allows you to see the weak spot with motion, on top of that you’re getting on top of the defense already. A good QB can pick you apart easier unless they’re heavily disguised

i hope not. that would be miserable lol. If Cook was running all over the Chiefs then you have to believe Saquon and the Eagles will do the same except continue to give Barkley the ball and no deviate away from him whenever they feel like it. On top of that, the Eagles have top quality in their defense. They stand a chance in any game where they have Reid & Mahomes but Philly win it, surely?

Sorry dude. I don’t mean to belittle someone’s thoughts as they are valid and have a place even if there’s a disagreement on one side… WTF are you thinking? You want to remove the coach who’s been lambasted for coaching errors, decisions and no fee of the game for the guy that couldn’t figure out how to set the Chiefs up with a look and pull the rug in the biggest game? This guy literally ran Josh into a brick wall all game on short distances, even going to the extent of 4 times on one drive. He has no elite feel for the ebb and flow of the game. People say McD would be nothing without Josh, well that goes even more to Brady. What’s he done professionally to advocate a choice over other coaches out there? Not much. The LSU national where he had Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, Terrence Marshall, Clyde Edwards Helaire, Thad Moss & a quality OLine? If you’re going to jump on the dump McD train and grab an offense minded guy that has NFL experience and success, go for Kliff Kingsbury.

Hindsight is always a beautiful thing in drafting. You have to factor in the landing spot too. The only egregious error I hold against Beane and McD is Boogie Basham. Double dipping the defensive line was an awful idea when we had questions about the line and Landon Dickerson and Creed were on the board. The Elam pick was wrong. No doubt about it. It hasn’t panned out and appears and absolute waste but at the time you can’t blame them. Tre White was coming off a serious injury and had he worked out that pick would have been perfect timing as we know what happened to Tre every year after: injured. Benford worked out so their double dipping on corner paid off somewhat. I liked Kyler Gordon more but got the pick at the time as he was decent in college and could give the Bills more man coverage flexibility.

Watching the play back, the replay from the sky cam shows a deep shot to Kincaid is right there if Josh can step into it. Failing that Ty Johnson comes open right at the down line as does Shakir, don’t know if he makes that unless Ty can get a block for him. That wasn’t the case. Torrence head’s on a swivel whilst 2 guys are flying into Josh’s face lol

Josh’s post game he explains it, first look was right for the play, protection slid left. After watching it again I’m not even seeing why you slide left pre snap. You have a bunch out wide to the left vs 3 dbs. Shakir motioned in then back out behind them. That’s a 4v3 with him possibly getting the ball running. It turns into an 4v4 but that’s cause the end drops into coverage. The worst part? That play probably works out better if Torrence doesn’t absolutely sht the bed. Dude let 2 guys walk between him and Brown. 🤦‍♂️ Ty or Shakir would have had a better chance to get that first down. Still amazed he managed to get that throw on target and into the arms of Kincaid at all. Wild.

If he had time and made that throw? Sure. But if he’s turning his body to the left to throw to Shakir he’s getting rocked and the ball is incomplete at best, fumble at worst. Speaking of schemes, why are we throwing a screen, something we’ve been awful at all year, to Cooper on a crucial and potential season defining 3rd & 10? How many more chances do we want to give our guys? ”they would have gotten it the next time” well if the defense was as awful as I’m reading, those whacky play calls shouldn’t have been attempted as they weren’t making another stop lol They maxed out forcing the FG And that isn’t sarcasm.