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Nothing says "honesty" better than a witness paid a fortune to testify.
Money talks!
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I said this up thread a bit too, but I still think it's interesting that BB basically said 'Ask Tom, I don't know.' right after the Pats* restructured Tom's contract to make him cheaper to cut. They are famous for cutting ties a year or two early, though this is obviously far fetched
It would be the most Bellichick-like move of Bellichick's entire career to get rid of Brady a year or two before people expect. I've been saying all season it's going to happen sooner than people think.
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If we can prove Jay Z is a Hawks fan I think we can wrap this whole thing up before the NFL does.
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Illuminati imo
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It's basically the worst superbowl of my lifetime(not including the Bills'). There are only 2 teams in the entire NFL that I really don't like, and it's those two.
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here is a picture of the criminal
Steve Belicheck
http://www.patriots.com/team/coaches/steve-belichick/5dda0f6b-0e66-4fe1-8bbf-46417aad07cf
lmao i want to punch that guy's face off his face just for the way it looks.
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I could see Bellichick throwing his son to the wolves to maintain his legacy.
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Understood. I'm not saying any of them are as good at their positions as Lynch and Sherman, just that there has to be a limit on what those two can say. I mean there has to be a line in the sand the NFL would have with these two. If they started going into long rants accusing the league of conspiracy, cheating, etc. in every press conference they'd have to get rid of them.
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^That's actually probably as close to the truth as any of us will guess. It's all about cards and how/when to play them with these people.
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i dont think theres a ton to hide.... if they have the pressure measurements pre game, the guy handling the balls out of the ordinary, and then the balls low pretty soon after (didnt even make it to halftime)... they could hammer the pats just like they did the saints for various institutional control, and non-cooperation penalties. i thought they got crazy with it then, but there is precedent for it now.
but they would not want the saints style push back the week before the super bowl. ill still guess large fine and day 2 draft pick, but they have very much surprised me before.
My guess is that they had the video and they just needed a confession from the ballboy, possibly implicating one of the coaches or Brady. Because having those two pieces of proof would allow them to absolutely eviscerate the Patriots.
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Good news: the Patriots will be fumbling more going forward with their fully inflated balls.
The REAL smoking gun to all this would be is if the Patriots passing and fumbling numbers tank next season. Because even if they get away scott free this time, they won't be able to tinker with the balls in the future.
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This is really starting to hit the sports news now.
most pundits are saying that there is no way this attendant would deflate the balls on his own.
it's simply not believable and most are saying
the the patriots are cheaters for sure.
It's unthinkable that anyone lower than a coach or player would ever have the balls to do something like this on their own. We're talking about handling the tools of millionaire celebrities as a low-level employee. It'd be like some lowly sound tech altering the whole sound system for a Metallica concert without consulting the band.
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we can agree there. especially since there is no indication it changed the outcome, the nfl has little incentive to rush this and risk messing it up on the largest stage by dq'ing the pats.
That's why I think it has to be the NFL has nothing or the NFL has everything. If it was anywhere in between they would have made a statement right away trying to temper expectations or quiet the public roar a little bit. Because by staying quiet for this long, they're either going to be completely embarrassed when they announce they have no proof or completely vindicated and celebrated when they announce they'd made the biggest cheating bust in almost a decade.
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If that is the case, he couldn't have picked a better team to go nuclear on. At least for my tastes.
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How could it possibly be the latter; if the NFL has an absolute smoking gun implicating cheating beyond all doubt and they let the Patriots represent the AFC in the Superbowl anyway would be the worst PR nightmare in history.
It's not practical to change the teams in the superbowl no matter what they do. As soon as the Patriots/Colts game ended millions of dollars were placed in bets around the world.
If they have a smoking gun, they'd want to take their time to tie up every loose end and make sure they're fully prepared to present it. There'd be no rush to announce their findings right away, because once everyone hears the findings the discussion is over. IF it's a smoking gun.
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I wish this kid would go to the Boston Gobe.
if I were the Globe I would pay the kid anything
thing he wanted for the real story
This is why I wish someone like Kim Dotcom or Richard Branson were Bills fans. They'd publicly offer this kid a million dollars to spill the beans on all of the Patriots' dirty little secrets.
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Poor little johnny. Probably some college kid just trying to make some money carrying equipment for his favorite team.
Now he's going to be satan to most of America.
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The crazy thing about this entire situation is the absolute silence by the NFL. Not one statement. DO THEY BELIEVE THIS IS JUST GOING TO GO AWAY?
Staying this silent could only mean 2 things in my opinion: One it was botched by the NFL and they have nothing on the Pats and want it to go away OR two, they have an absolute smoking gun that, once released, will completely implicate the Patriots beyond all doubt. I hope it's the latter.
all it takes is 2 PSI.....
And player substitutions meant to circumvent the rules. And god knows whatever else they do. If someone is willing to cheat by deflating a football and record opposing coaches signals/listen to opposing team's radio transmissions there's no doubt they're willing to do other illegal things that give them an advantage. Just because they haven't been caught doing anything else doesn't mean they haven't been.
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The Seahawks will kill the Patriots. The Patriots are under a microscope and can't cheat in any way. Just like I'm sure the Broncos do plenty of grey-area stuff to keep Peyton Manning looking like a baller during regular games, I think Brady is about to look his age in the bowl.
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Just your claim that they still have video. No video is safe in NFL hands.
Good point.
I mean if it WAS found that the Patriots have been deflating balls for years would anyone really be surprised? The Patriots have been able to maintain an almost impossible streak of winning even as things around them fell apart after their amazing 2007 season. Digging into stats like fumbles and passing in bad weather it's clear they were performing at a level a 37-year-old QB with far worse receivers shouldn't be, even if it's Tom Brady. I mean you can watch the Patriots and SEE that they're not as good as they were back then, yet they still keep winning. Not even Bellichick and Brady are THAT good. They've whiffed on plenty of high draft picks, a lot of their key star players are getting really old, they've gone through a bazillian RBs, yet they're ALWAYS good even when you can watch individual players play and see they're not individually as good as they used to be.
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What'd be even better is if he cracked and told of all the other "little advantages" they got.
Stop teasing me with this crap. That'd be like my birthday, christmas, thanksgiving, and winning the lotto all in one.
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I don't think Goodell is any better at making them money than some other qualified person would be. I really do think it's in the best interest of the league to fire him. He's botched so many PR incidences it would take years for a new comish to undo the damage he did to the NFL's repuation.
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Yeah, it's unfathomable to think there might be some exaggerating of the transgression on this board. There were only thousands of posts (tens of thousands?) prior to this incident, by people displaying "negativity" towards the Patriots.
You mean since they got caught cheating in 2007? I wonder why people would be negative towards them after the were caught cheating. Weird.
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Just because I like to daydream about the demise of the Patriots: Could you imagine if this attendant cracked under questioning and admitted that either Brady himself or one of Bellichick's staff told him to deflate the balls? After those denial press conferences the two made? MANNNNNN that would be huge.
New England Patriots caught deflating game balls
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I doubt it's a coincidence that this was leaked while the Patriots are physically en route to the Superbowl. Travelling so they can't make an official response yet.
lmao a Patriots fan just summed their message board up perfectly: