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If he does or doesn't, this will be the first year he actually needs that 17th game to hit the mark. Amazingly, he's achieved 40+ TD's in 4 consecutive games in 16 games or less. It's could be a streak that will never be broken.

Odds are the Ravens finish as the 5 or 6 seed and end up being the lowest advancing seed in the playoffs. That sends them to the 1 seed in the divisional. Not exactly a great gift for the Chiefs or Bills whoever the 1 seed ends up being. Then the 2 seed likely gets the Chargers or Steelers.

Serviceable vets name in reserve might just be Damar Hamlin. I don’t know that we will need to break the back to keep Damar. I also don’t see him as the kind of player that is going to pout should he go back to the bench.

I can’t recall ever seeing a fake slide in the NFL. The Controversy is much to do about nothing.

I love you.

He’s been phenomenal in my opinion. all pro worthy.

I’m worried about the Rams, but I keep going back to their loss to the Dolphins. How were the Rams totally dominated on both sides of the ball by the Dolphins?

Have also taken to account the player. I’m almost positive earlier in the year, maybe week two or three same player during a dead ball period Punched another player in the head with his fist.

Rapp is turning into one of the best safeties in the league. McDermott truly is the secondary whisperer.

I think you are wrong about Brown being better than rookie Rice. That certainly hasn't been the case for the last two seasons we have seen Rice in '22 and '23. His numbers across the board were down from what Rice did last year as rookie. I'm actually not sure he has had a single season in his career better than Rice's rookie season. In '21 Brown had 1,008 receiving yards, more than Rice's 938 but Rice had a higher YPC, catch % and success rate. Browns on his third team in six seasons and has career ypc below 12. Ravens had no problem trading Brown after his 1,000 yard season and then would go on to draft Zay Flowers a similar sized player two years later. Drafting Flowers told us it wasn't that they didn't value the skill set Brown had. They specifically didn't like Brown for other reasons it seems. Hollywood Brown's comp would be Brandin Cooks in terms of a smaller speed receiver that has bounced around the league. But Cooks has been considerably more productive at every stop. And if you think Mahomes is the secret sauce that Brown needs to reach his full potential, well, that doesn't always happen. Sammy Watkins can tell us that.

Here you go @Billl NFL rule is below. Applicable parts bolded. The 10 second run off does not apply to an inadvertent whistle. As for HS football, there is no 10 second run off rule at all regardless of game and clock circumstance. https://operations.nfl.com/media/24emxacq/2024-nfl-rulebook.pdf Rule 7: Ball in play, dead ball, scrimmage Section 2: Deadball Article 1 (O) when an official sounds the whistle erroneously while the ball is still in play, the ball becomes dead immediately. (1) If the ball is in player possession, the team in possession may elect to put the ball in play where it has been declared dead or to replay the down. (2) If the ball is a loose ball resulting from a fumble, backward pass, or illegal forward pass, the team last in possession may elect to put the ball in play at the spot where possession was lost or to replay the down. (3) If the ball is a loose ball resulting from a legal forward pass, a free kick, a fair-catch kick, or a scrimmage kick, the ball is returned to the previous spot, and the down is replayed. (4) If there is a foul by either team during any of the above, and the team in possession at the time of the erroneous whistle elects not to replay the down, penalty enforcement is the same as for fouls during a run, forward pass, kick, fumble, and backward pass. If the team in possession elects to replay the down, all penalties will be disregarded, except for personal fouls and unsportsmanlike conduct fouls, which will be administered prior to the replaying of the down. If the down is replayed, the game clock will be reset to the time remaining when the snap occurred, and the clock will start on the snap. according to the rule I just posted it would not have mattered if clock was running or stopped. There is no 10 second run off in either case after an inadvertent whistle.

I’d be very surprised if a 10 second run off still applies after an inadvertent killing of the play. I am a second year HS official and that’s peaked my curiosity. I’ll have to look up the rule in both HS and NFL.

why do you even need sound? What do you think the the waiving of the arms means while the official runs onto the field during a loose ball? clear blowing of the play dead and an inadvertent whistle since they did not rule a false start penalty. what we don’t know is if that official mixed up his signals and mechanics in his head or if he had false start and then was over ruled rightly or wrongly by the white hat. Regardless the play was clearly blown dead with the killing of the clock by that one official and we have an inadvertent whistle situation. You can believe what you want about the actuall sound of the whistle. To me it appears pretty clear that he puts the whistle in his mouth before he kills the clock with his arms. And we know from the video that the killing of the clock happens while the ball is still loose. But again, not sure that even matters because he’s running past the number onto the field killing the clock while the ball is loose.

Watch the video you posted. Clearly the official at the top of the screen would be lying about not blowing the play dead. The motion he is making with his arms kills the clock which blows the play dead. He’s likely blowing the whistle as well whether you can hear it or not on video. But that doesn’t mater he is killing the clock and play while the ball is still loose. We can all see that in the video

That’s not what I see at all. He is clearly running into the field killing the clock and blowing the whistle while the ball is loose. That is an inadvertent whistle. Not sure on the NFL rule but in HS you have to replay the down regardless of what happens after the inadvertent whistle.

12-5 frauds lol would you not be happy beating a 12-5 team??? I’m not going to sugar coat the win as if we beat a great 11-1 team. at the same time we beat a good team despite their flaws and we should all be happy about that. Plus it is always fun to give the last unbeaten team their first loss of the year whether it is the Chiefs or any other team. how hard is that to understand? I will wait for your shine box response. Although this argument has obviously run it’s course. Bills are 4-2 in the last six games against them. The only two that were not one score games were won by the bills. One of which was a blow out. so if it is not close the Bills likely win. If it is close it’s a coin flip game. That’s what the last six games tell us.

What point do you think you are making here? Are they a fraudulent 11-1 team? 100% percent. Trying to argue differently is not being objective. Are they still a good football team whose floor is around 12-5? 100% I mean it doesn't exactly make me feel any better that they are 11-1 frauds that still have the best chance of landing the 1 seed if the Bills don't pull out the upset in Detroit in a couple of weeks.

Oh you were most certainly dunked on. I'll forgive you for not meaning to quote me in that post. Carry on.

12-5 is not a mediocre football team which is how I would describe their current talent level and level of play. They've something like 9-0 in one score games this year. I'm not saying they should be 4-5 in those one score games and have 5 losses now. But 6-3 or 7-2 and on pace for a 5 loss season would be closer to the law of averages for a good team. Who would you rather not face in the playoffs if you had a choice, the 1 loss Chiefs or the 4 loss Ravens?

Most of us are talking them down from the best team in the league or the best team in the Mahomes era which right now are both titles they are on pace to claim with a 16-1 or 15-2 record. Realistically they look like 12-5 type team which is still a good team. Division title winning team in most cases. Nobody is talking them down to a 8-9 level team.

The Chiefs vs. Dolphins game last year was not a dog fight. Plenty of playoff games are never dog fights. Bills vs. Pats WC. Bills vs. Steelers WC

I meant NFC West. But thanks for pointing out the Bills are the only team in the entire NFL to beat a playoff team this year.

God bless you.

I was thinking about the same thing OP. The Raiders failure was more than just a botched snap. They never should have been trying to run another play outside of a FG attempt. I don't care that Carlson had already missed 3 FG's. At least two were way beyond 50 yards. Like 56 and 58 yards. Raiders had the ball at the 32. That's a 50 yard FG. 15 seconds no timeouts, you just kick the ball there. It was a coaching failure. First off, the previous snap to kill the clock should have happened at 10 seconds, not 15. KC still had a couple time outs and we saw what they can do with two timeouts and 13seconds left. Both games were monumental coaching failures with young QB's. And I think in the Raiders case, their center is a rookie.

HAHA! I mean how many other teams can claim that two days after Thanksgiving?!? You don't have to look it up. It's just the Bills. I'm actually surprised the Bucs can't claim the same. But Lions have not yet locked up a playoff spot. Admit it FireChans, you forgot the AFC West existed. I'll cut you some slack though because that entire division is down but the first and second place teams in that division have winning records and the Bills beat both.