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I think Josh hits 58% completion percentage this year which will work for us. He is already one of the greatest rushing QB's the NFL has ever seen so with that kind of ability in the ground game we can win a lot of games with him completing around 58% of his passes.

I really, really, really don't want Eli in the HOF. That said, the voters are totally going to fall for his last name. The perfect comparison would be Joe Flacco if Flacco were to go on another epic Super Bowl run and win a second one with the Broncos. It would be a great story but he would still have no chance at the HOF. Eli is very similar to Flacco IMO but because of his name and perhaps city he plays for he is going to undeservedly get in.

Agreed. Reid is underrated as both a coach and GM. IMO, he is a HOF coach and that is saying something considering he's only won one conference title game. And Smith at least played at a high level under two different coaches and teams in Harbough and Reid.

Hall of Very Good.

Come on Gungy. Don't embarrass yourself. Those numbers are just "fun facts" about Gore. Yes, they don't mean much, but they help to contribute to over 18,000 yard from scrimmage. Something only four other HOFers have achieved. Jerome Bettis got a gold jacket for longevity and his numbers were crap compared to Gore.

Zay's trade value IMO is minimal. Even if Zay hasn't clearly separated himself by the end of August I still think he sticks on the roster. He's worth more to the Bills gambling on him that he will produce during the season then trading him for a 5th round pick if that. I will be completely shocked if Zay is not on the roster week 1.

Hope so.

Only thing I don't like is he is supposedly not much of a receiving threat.

We were 30th in both points and yards last year. If we don't improve to the mid to low 20's at a minimum then i will be disappointed. I'm not predicting a top 16 offense but it could happen. When you have a second year QB it is all about that QB's personal development and improvement. We could easily be a 26th ranked offense next year but if Allen personally breaks out into the player we think he can be then it has been a positive season.

I agree. But McCoy was 30 last year. As was Ivory. So i just don't want to completely rule out that maybe he could have aged on us.

Allen's final six games he had an 8:7 TD to INT ratio. One of those picks was on an end of half hail mary. So 8:6 really. I could live with a sophomore season from Allen that was 21 TDs to 16 INTs. And probably another 6-8 TD's on the ground.

OP is seriously forgetting how bad the running game was last year. I love what we have done to fix this. We addressed the line in Free Agency and with our second round pick. And just in-case the problem was old as dirt running back's we also took fresh legs with our 3rd pick. McCoy and Ivory ran for 3.2 and 3.3 ypc respectively. And with Allen's big arm I doubt those low ypc were due to teams overloading the box on us. There was just nowhere to run.

Hmm. On paper it is still a huge improvement from what we went into the season with last year. The focus this off-season was improving the o-line. They've nailed that. The running game was absolutely non-existent last year due to a bad o-line. And I'm sure it didn't help Allen much either. Fixing the line will have a bigger effect than drafting a receiver early. We made some moves at TE, which was needed. I don't expect these pick ups at TE to light up the world but I also don't expect a drop off from last years squad. We know Beasley can catch the ball. That's worth an A grade by itself. John Brown, likely better than whoever our 4th WR was last year.

And straight 40 times don't necessarily tell us how well of a runner they will be. Josh's time was almost a .10 slower but he is far more mobile on the field then guys like Watson and Turbitzky with faster times. Other factors contribute to being a good running QB, vision, timing, agility, size etc.

Exactly. I prefer this method over the Skins letting Haskins fall to them to 16. Or the Bills trading back to get EJ at 16. I don't know much about him either. Is he more similar to Turbitzky in terms of mobility?

I am a big believer of taking control and drafting the QB you believe in early. If you have two first round picks, regardless of where they are, you take the QB with the first one and the BPA with the second. Cleveland and Buffalo are perfect examples of this last year. Also, I think you need to either trade up for the QB or have an early enough pick like the Giants did that you are confident you will get your QB. I actually don't really like what Washington did. How much are they really all in and believe in Haskins if they were willing to just sit back at 16 and let him fall to them? It is similar to when we traded back in 2013 from 8 to 16 to draft EJ. Clear sign that we don't actually value the QB highly if we are willing to risk losing him. Haskins and Lock could have been available or available still in Lock's case for a reason. Time will tell. Way too early to know. It basically depends on what Allen or Darnold develop into. I wonder how the Giants board ranked Allen and Darnold. I think we have all assumed Darnold 1 and Allen 2 but with Jones being a similar big and mobile QB maybe they had Allen over Darnold?

Maybe so. Perhaps it is just coincidence that neither Rodgers or Big Ben have won or even been back to a Super Bowl since really becoming even more opinionated than they were early in their careers.

I don't recall Big Ben opening his mouth much or at all until well after he was a two time super bowl champion. Rodgers is widely regarded as the best or second best QB playing the game over the last 10 years. He was successful out of the gate pretty much by winning a super bowl in 2010 shortly after he became the starting Qb for Green Bay. Despite that early success he has not even been back to a Super Bowl. And with the recent article that came out that does not shed good light on his personality he may even start to take more heat going forward despite still having a tremendous skill set. Mayfield has been succesful right out of the gate turning the Browns around quickly and winning ROY. Rosen has done nothing. That's going to be a problem in his future if he continues to have an opinion.

I'll take a stab at it. He very well may be very bright and mature for his age. But QBs are supposed to be "boring". Never giving anything with real substance in an interview. Brady is the epitome of this. When does Brees ever give us anything good? He's seems to have an Aaron Rodgers like attitude with perhaps even more opinions on different things. The sooner Rosen's game can rise to his quotes the better off he will be. Mayfield is sort of a similar example. Mayfield has earned a benefit of the doubt to speak his mind since winning ROY.

Those other guys played in the system well and Bill got the most out of them but Brady they are not. I also wouldn't doubt that Bill could turn Rosen into another Cassel or even Jimmy G. Not guaranteed but it could happen. If it did it would not be the end of the world. Those guys are beatable. Brady's the closets thing to not beatable. Heck, imagine Ryan Fitzpatrick playing QB for the Patriots. I would have to imagine Bill would get a whole lot more out of Fitzpatrick than he did Cassel.

A lot of us still were not sold or all in on Allen until he came back from injury last year and went on that six game run that no other QB other than Mike Vick has ever been on. Flipped around his TD:INT and dramatically decreased his sack %. A Qb does need to show some sort of sign of success and improvement for me to get behind them. With regards to Rosen, I am not in the fairest position to judge him since I hardly watched him, but I'm not sure what success or improvement he showed last season other than staying on the field. This is just from looking over his stats. The only improvement i can find for Rosen in his final six games was a meaningless 0.9% improvement in completion percentage. YPA decreased a full yard. TD:INT ratio decreased about 25%. Sack % jumped 4 points. And of course he did not put up vintage Mike Vick numbers in the running game. Basically Rosen gets a pass because his team was dog poop. The offensive cast around Allen is not far off at all. Our number one receiver going into the season was cut for poor performance and currently isn't even on a team despite not even being 30 years old. At no point last year could any of our running backs find space to contribute anything meaningful in the ground game. Can Rosen have a Goff like turn around in Arizona or somewhere else? Perhaps. I doubt it would be overnight like Goffs. I would not hold my breath on it happening at all.

Probably depends on the coach. Rex probably would have signed up for it every year if he could.

Allen missed multiple games due to injury in the middle of the season. We are going to need him to survive better than that this year. To Rosen's credit he took a beating all year long and never came off the field. That is probably actually the single best takeaway from his rookie year. Neither Darnold or Allen were able to do that. Didn't they bring in Bennet this off-season? And before him they had Chris Long. Patriots are a lot of things, but they aren't dumb. If you can help the team they will bring you in regardless of your political beliefs.

My theory is that Brady truly believes his TB12 method or whatever it is. What better way to market it then by playing into his mid 40's. Unfortunately, unless his arm falls off suddenly overnight like Peyton's did, I think we have at least two more seasons of enduring Brady. Also, how much does he truly care about not only being the winning-est QB of all time but also owning all the passing records? I don't think he has even hinted about caring about the stats but I would bet he does care. Just doesn't tell anyone. To do so he will have to outlast Drew Brees by one season. Brees could play for at least two more years. So basically, I don't think Brady is close to retiring unless his game falls apart like Peyton's did. Yep. And we've had the Brady is going to retire soon discussion since like the 2012 season.

Yeah. It was great luck that their QB who was well on his way to winning the league MVP that year tore his knee up. Luck had nothing to do with it. Eagles have been a success the last two seasons. Even if they wouldn't have won a super bowl they still would have been a success the last two seasons. But you believe we are being fooled by grass looking greener on the other side? Beane's one remarkable six win season is better than what the Eagles have accomplished the last two years? You are just messing with us now.