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I agree with a lot of what you are pointing out. As to faith, one of the reasons we have faith is we have already seen Allen carry the offense when it is needed at the end of games. We know he is capable of this and he hasn't even finished his second full season yet. We have good reason to have faith in his abilities up to this point. The other thing that makes us gravitate towards Allen is how different he is from past Bills QB's. With the exception of Fitzpatrick all the other recent QB's were gun shy game manager types. Josh Allen is most definitely not that. And for better or worst this early in his development, that is a huge breath of fresh air for most of us fans. He's been so close to having a couple of ridiculously good highlight reel throws already in his young career. The one last year @ Miami that would have won the game. And then he had one earlier this year, can't remember against who, but it looked like a play Mahomes would have made, faking a run and then pulling up late to throw a pass to the end zone near the pylon. I think the defender broke it up. Both in-completions but I like the mindset that he plays with. I do think absent all or most of his 4QC and GW drives most all of us would be quite a bit more salty on Allen than we currently are. But he stepped up in some big moments. Now we just need to see if Allen and the offense can put things together more consistently for 60 minutes so we can beat teams like the Bengals and Dolphins by 17-20 instead of with comebacks in the 4th quarter.

100% agree. In fact, Josh Allen is ahead of schedule IMO. Still a lot to improve on. Mainly need more consistency out of him. But I really like what I have seen from him so far. He was the biggest project coming out of the draft but so far he's held his own among his peers. Arguably the second best QB from his draft class.

I could see it going like the Giants game where it will look like we will cruise to victory at some point in the second quarter. But then in the fourth the Dolphins will cut it to six or seven points.

Would be the first time all year so I would say no if i had to guess.

I love Josh Allen. That said, can someone please do some digging and let us know what his completion percentage is on long balls this year? Attempts over 30 air yards? Has he even completed one? Feels like he is 0-27 if we say he averages three attempts per game.

Actually this thread is meant to pump the breaks a bit while still having reason for optimism. A PSA for people to expect a loss in the coming weeks but not lose their heads over it. I think a lot of people are looking at the records of our upcoming opponents and are just assuming we should go 4-0 over the next four. I think that is completely unrealistic. And whomever we do lose to we will still be in great shape at 8-3. 2-2 is absolutely a possibility, heck probably more so than 3-1 given this teams history. But do we want to go down that road?

We need to see how the young guy plays first. Maybe he is another Minshew or Kyle Allen? Flacco was playing like he had no pulse out there and Broncos have been in pretty much every game this year. Could easily have two more wins on their resume. The fact that we play them at home whereas the Browns are on the road I would the Browns slightly as the team we will lose to over the next four. My head would explode.

2-2 would be same old Bills so wouldn't be shocked with that outcome. Let's hope the team has turned the page on those Bills.

I won't allow myself to think the Bills will go 2-2 over the next four and 4-4 over their last 8 games in total. I also have to be realistic and figure they lose one of these four upcoming games. This is the Bills after all. Last week was such a huge let down partly because we failed to get over that 5-1 hurdle that we tripped up on in 2008. But the 2019 Bills still have a chance to achieve a record through 8 games that we have not reached since our last Super Bowl season of 1993, by beating the Redskins this week and reaching 6-2. It hasn't been a murderers row of opponents to say the least but hey, you can only play the teams on your schedule and I'll gladly take a start to the season we haven't seen since 1993. So my question is who do we lose to over the next four? Just give me one team. I'll say Cleveland on the road.

What the heck is "cumulative QB Rating"? You mean just QB rating right? Allen has taken a big jump in QB rating from year 1 to year 2 so far so that is a good sign. But if anyone likes QBR over QB Rating he has taken a big jump down from year 1 to year 2 in QBR. I tend to prefer QBR over the traditional QB Rating. Especially when you have a QB with above average mobility. But with Allen being a young QB still figuring things out I think in his case it is a good sing to see an improvement in traditional QB rating so far at the expense of QBR for now.

Uh, yeah, okay. So if a team has a bad defense say 25th or worse ranked YPG and 25th or worse in TOP but their MLB is top 5 in tackles I guess he is having a great year because he has so many tackles? Sacks can also be skewed. Team A could play majority veteran QB's who get rid of the ball. Team B could play majority 1st and 2nd year starters who take a lot of sacks in general.

In just the last hour I've seen the line at Bovada move from Eagles +2 to pick em. I'm one of those fans that sometimes likes to hedge a possible devastating Bills loss with a pay day by taking the other side. Would not mind at all having to pay for a Bills victory today.

Let's get it done today!

1. Patriots have almost a 20 year track record of success. 2. Patriots have curbed stopped the bad teams. Bills have squeaked by some of them.

Wonder who that is by the way? Anyone of the Eli led Giants teams has to be in the running. Of course Super Bowl winner and worst are sort of oxymoron's.

They don't remember the 2008 team i guess? We already know this one is not going 0-6 in the division.

Not sure about that with the forecast calling for 26mph winds at kick off.

Yep. That was probably the easiest stretch ever. I think we played either all four or 3/4 NFC West teams during the stretch and that was a terrible division that year. Plus the Bengals and possibly Browns.

Some posters will continue to freak with every turnover unfortunately. I would love to see connect on at least one deep ball though. He's been dreadful with those this year. Every time he lets one rip deep I've been accustomed to instantly think to myself "crap!".

Man oh, man. If this comes to fruition, we finally get a blow out victory this year. We missed out on playing Rosen.

Yes. But it is a positive when you consider the alternative. The alternative being Josh continuing to struggle into the 4th quarter. Or even simply having nearly identical stats in the 4th quarter and overall but simply having one or two plays go sideways that prevent the team from winning the game. I'll gladly take whatever "clutchness" Josh seems to have.

Especially his NFL leading 4th quarter QB Rating. That's probably even more impressive than the actual GW drives and 4th quarter comebacks. I know some like to argue that if he played better the first three quarters he wouldn't have these 4th QC comeback and GW drives. Sure, that can be true, but it is still a nice stat for Allen. The alternative would be him having the exact same stats but not pulling out the victories in the end. Which would not be a good feeling at all.

I remember 2008 well. I was at the Arizona game where we rolled in 4-0 and left with a blow-out loss to the eventual NFC Champion Cardinals. The latest stat I am hearing now is that in the modern era the Bills have gone to the Super Bowl every year they started 6-1 or better. 1990 started 9-1 1991 started 5-0 and 10-1 1993 started 7-1

My biggest concern with Tua would be Bama's dominant offensive line. I'll admit I haven't watched much college football at all this year. But if it's usual Bama, Tua probably has all day to throw and rarely faces adversity. Things will be much different in the NFL.

Teams that tank in the NFL are dumb. It doesn't work. This isn't the NBA where one player can change the fate of an organization. Tua is no slam dunk franchise QB. And IF he is good, Miami or any other terrible team still has to hit on most of their other draft picks and free agent acquisitions over a multi-year period. Easier said than done. How many years in row did the Lions pick in the top 3-5 in the early 2000's? And they have like two playoff appearances to show for it? Meanwhile during that same time period the Packers grabbed Aaron Rodgers at pick #26 of the first round. So much for tanking.