KRT88

Certainly he was an exceptionally productive college player but the mileage. He's taken a ton of hits. I could see him at pick 65 if we keep it.

I'm a first year GM too, I'm picking Rosen or Darnold no doubt about it. This could end up working out they way Green Bay did with Farve to Rogers. Pick the QB let him sit and develop

after today's moving of JPP your idea certainly seems more likely. However, I've heard the NYG are really interested in Chubb from NCS and a cost controlled DE makes sense. However, I'm willing to hope that a Hughes + picks deal can be struct. Not holding my breath but I'll cross my fingers.

So you are telling me Fox is fair and balanced but CNN is biased? Wow, Fox couldn't have been any more biased against Obama but do a HORRIBLE job or being impartial.

personally, I think this will not happen until draft day and the Giants know where or not Cleveland takes their guy. If they really love Darnold and the Browns take him maybe they move the pick. If the Browns go in a different direction, the NYG say, we can't pass on our guy. Maybe the Giant say listen we want x, y or z and we can't get them at #12, you have to move up or we will do what we must. It's gonna be 5 more weeks of speculation.

I said 12, 22, 53, 65 and a next years second and one guy here said BB would lose the fan base if he did that. Heck that seems cheap now. I'd do just about whatever. I'd try to not deal next years 1st as it will likely be a decent pick. Adding two years worth of 2nd's is reasonable if you give mean some lower round stuff back. 12, 22, 53, 65, 2019 & 2020 2nd's for #2, plus a 5th and 2019 4th. I want to raft the QB. right or wrong, I'm standing behind the decision to take a shot!

How much you wanna bet if we trade up there's no players involved? You can pick the odds.

LOL, great comeback what the ?%@&? That was one strange story. Someone was on something, but what's you doing naked? And whatever it was, I can think of other things I'd being doing as a wealthy young, NFL player.

Wow, we acquired the top pick in the draft for Cordy Glenn? Big difference between top pick and a 1st round pick. Guess reading wasn't taught at your school.

I SERIOUSLY doubt Cleveland is trading down to pick Jackson. They can pick any QB they like, TT skillset has NOTHING to do with their decision. The tarded for TT because he is a professional and will show whomever what that means. He's a great teammate and responsible on the field which will prevent throwing the #1 pick to the wolves. I'll lay significant odds Cleveland doesn't trade the top overall pick or pick a non QB.

Picking up some solid OL depth is a good thing.

Really the Cardinals signed Sam on always broken Bradford and Mike Glennon! If that doesn't scream want to draft a QB is at all possible then you'all know something I don't. What's the over/under on Bradford starts? 5 1/2? Glennon, come on, if possible they'd move to ten to grab a guy falling.

and so does this idiotic trade idea. When does a top pick, find me an example, where a player was involved?

If this clown has Allen as a 3rd round pick BUT Rudolph as a first round pick, he is completely clueless. Rudolph is a system player that uses one read only. Had he also included Mason as a 3rd round pick, then maybe his assessment would be more accurate.

Giants don't have the cap room for Jerry Hughes! This is idea is totally useless.

next you are going to say that Fox News is great reporting. I just watched a comparison segment where they literally based Obama for even trying to reach out to North Korea but called Trump a genius after possible future talks were announced. That's called hypocrisy! If you are going to call out CNN on one end, please call out Fox on the other because they apparently balance each other out.

yes I'm sure Arizona is all set with a guy injured every 17 seconds and Mike Glennon. What can possibly go wrong there.?

It’s called 1983, night as well been 1493, the scouting was terrible. I can’t see Arizona staying behind Buffalo if we stay at 12! They need a QB for future too and I could see them moving up to 10.

RG3 was the rookie of the year, an injury and poor coaching ruined his career!

The Browns simply can not put off the decision on QB any longer. I wouldn’t even field calls on the top pick. I don’t even know if the Giants would take that offer but I’d try with them.

Drafting a late 2nd early 3rd round player ar #12 would be the stupidest thing the Bills could ever do! It would be nothing short of a catastrophe. Anyone who promotes this stance is so clueless on the scouting they need they need to stop! Heck taking him at #22 would be horrible!

really put it off yet another year. Come one, we've done that for nearly 20 years! Do what Phily did, bite the bullet and go get your guy. We can suck for one year but try to not give away next years first in the deal.

The Giants ONLY have 5 picks this year. If the Bills offer both #1's, a #2, a #3 (65), plus a 2nd next year and maybe swapping a 4th for a 6th, this could be very temping. Plus you could also do more next year. Trade 12, 21, 53, 65, 2nd, and 3rd next year for #2, a 6th this year and a 4th next year. we trade 4 picks for 2 this year and 2 for 1 next year. Giants get 6 picks for 3. Eli gets help this year!

The evidence below since year 2004 says trade up and get your guy! I want Rosen or Darnold at #2, not some leftover at #12 or even worse, round 2! 2016: 1. Jared Goff, California, Rams - productive NFL starter 2. Carson Wentz, North Dakota State, Eagles - productive NFL starter ___ 2015: 1. Jameis Winston, Florida State, Buccaneers - productive NFL starter 2. Marcus Mariota, Oregon, Titans - productive NFL starter ___ 2014: 3. Blake Bortles, Central Florida, Jaguars - Below average NFL starter ___ 2012: 1. Andrew Luck, Stanford, Colts - productive NFL starter 2. Robert Griffin III, Baylor, Redskins - Injuries ruined career after Rookie of Year 8. Ryan Tannehill, Texas A&M, Dolphins productive NFL starter ___ 2011: 1. Cam Newton, Auburn, Panthers Very productive NFL starter 8. Jake Locker, Washington, Titans - Horrible 10. Blaine Gabbert, Missouri, Jaguars - Horrible ___ 2010: 1. Sam Bradford, Oklahoma, Rams - often injuried NFL starter ___ 2009: 1. Matthew Stafford, Georgia, Lions - Very productive NFL starter 5. Mark Sanchez, USC, Jets - Horrible ___ 2008: 3. Matt Ryan, Boston College, Falcons - Very productive NFL starter ___ 2007: 1. JaMarcus Russell, LSU, Raiders - Horrible ___ 2006: 3. Vince Young, Texas, Titans - Horrible 10. Matt Leinart, USC, Cardinals - Horrible ___ 2005: 1. Alex Smith, Utah, 49ers- Productive starter for years ___ 2004: 1. Eli Manning, Mississippi, Chargers - HORer - super bowl winner 4. Philip Rivers, North Carolina State, Giants - HORer 11. Ben Roethlisberger, Miami (Ohio), Steelers - HORer - super bowl winner

Rudolph is SO NOT a round one player. The guy should be drafted mid way through day two, late 2nd, early to mid 3rd. However, desperation will push him up. I would NOT touch him at 22! total value nightmare pick.