LeGOATski

Yes, if it is true

Just heard on the Locked On Bills podcast that Frazier's contract ended after this year.

I don't have to, you're putting it on the page. Fix the leaky roof and the furnace. Got it. Don't fire McDermott, just ask him to completely change everything about his football philosophy he's been developing for 20 years. Makes sense.

The systems on defense AND offense AND special teams are what McD wants to run for his vision of complimentary football. Coaching, game planning, and play calling still fall on Frazier. Then can absolutely get someone different and it would affect all those aspects of the operation. Do you all remember when McD took over play calling duties from Frazier in his first year and it suddenly got more aggressive with better-timed blitzes and pressure? They absolutely should bring in a new coordinator. If McD can't fire Frazier, it's a problem.

Yes, that's it. You claimed something that isn't true so I pointed it out to you. It's not a philosophical disagreement. It's just a point of fact.

Didn't miss it at all, I just don't agree with it. You're definitely advocating for firing McD.

To me, it's not about year over year stat production. It's about specific games and big moments like yesterday. They need additional game-changers wherever they can get them, so that when Josh, Diggs are off, the offense can pivot and someone else takes over. Whether it's WR, TE, or RB, that doesn't matter. An elite RB like McAffrey, Barkley, Chubb, Henry etc would've definitely made a difference yesterday. Regardless of yearly production having that extra star gets you further in the playoffs.

If they can't fire Frazier, it's a problem.

He literally did that last week. You should watch the mic'd up video if you haven't already. That hit on Ahmed was one of the best of the year.

McDermott should not go, but Frazier should be fired. His time is up. Nothing and it could've easily been posted in one of the other many threads on the same subject.

Is the point of the thread to talk about what they're saying? If so, what are they saying?

I'm not going to rewatch it for a while, but during the game it felt like they should've been doing 2 things more: pressing up the coverage and running more stunts on the DL. Burrow didn't have all day to throw, he was simply getting it out in under 2 seconds to a wide open receiver. They needed to take away those options and force Burrow to go long. Dorsey is a first year OC and can build off of this. Getting more stars for the offense would be good before cutting him loose. Frazier has been in this spot for 3+ years now and has had plenty of talent on his unit. Time to move on.

Wow, terrible technique by Shultz

Just from recent memory, they had the same conditions late in the Dolphins game this year and it didn't slow them down as they came back to win They had the same conditions vs the Falcons last year and the offense wasn't slowed down at all To say light snow was factor here is disingenuous. In the past they've only ever been affected by heavy winds or heavy precip, neither of which occurred today.

What weather conditions today stopped the Bills from executing? Light snow and no wind killed the Bills today when in the past they've played nearly perfect games in the same conditions? That's what you're saying. Somehow it was such a disadvantage for the Bills today. Suddenly they're "not built for it." You're saying things that make sense on paper but are not based on what actually happened today. Nothing about the weather today stopped the Bills from making the adjustments they needed to make. Nothing about the weather took away their potential to execute. It sounds like you agree that the Bengals coached and executed better in a light snow day that had no effect on a football game; the type of day in which the Bills have flourished in the past.

You're pointing to the hurricane wind game? If that's what you're basing this on, anyone can plainly see it's a flawed argument.

Because I saw no Daquan Jones to plug up the middle and Ed Oliver getting double teamed by a well schemed rushing attack. I saw zero stunts or disguised blitzes to confuse the Bengals O line. I saw zero press coverage or shallow zones to take away the quick passes. I saw plenty of missed tackles by the Bills and not as many by the Bengals. Everything being coaching/execution. There was no wind. There was light flurries. The Bills have put up huge games before in those same conditions. So what historical trends are you seeing that point to a big weather disadvantage for the Bills?

What historical trends are you looking at that show weather slows down the Bills offense more than other offenses? This is paramount to your point.

Yes. Better execution. Better coaching. They were playing in the same conditions. Their backup linemen didn't have some kind of magical weather advantage.

And they would've destroyed us in a dome too. It wasn't weather related. The Bengals O line and D line were playing in the same conditions as the Bills O line and D line.

There's one team that consistently got to the SB and they were also fined multiple times for cheating.... Then there are some others that made it 2 or 3 times. There are a lot that don't make it all.... I want the Bills to be a classic organisation that is always a playoff team and makes the SB once or twice each generation.i want the Bills to be the Packers, Steelers, 49ers.... That'd be awesome.

I'll take perennial playoffs and a SB. Sounds great!

Yep, offense offense offense. They need stars. It's an offensive league. They keep losing to offensive juggernauts in the playoffs.

Based on what exactly? Are you looking at their heights and weights? What stats are you looking at? You can just say the Bills were out coached and out executed and the weather had nothing to do with it. It's okay for you to just say that.

Yeah, the Bengals execution and coaching were much better today. Historically, light snow has never been an issue. Wind or heavy precip would've been an actual issue for both teams today, but this was not such a day.