LeGOATski

Joe Thomas

I think he'll be consistently 1000-1200 yards and 6-10 TDs per year.

These are false, sensationalized statements. They ruin any well-intentioned argument you're trying to make (which I'd be happy to hear if it was presented in a rational manner.) I'm not gonna rehash what's already been said, so whatever.

That's simply not true. We see guys win deep every Sunday who are strong and get the jump ball. By all accounts, Coleman is already a good route runner and there's no doubt he's an explosive athlete. We'll see.

That's beside the point. He has the ears of this FO, so I doubt he's going to be disgruntled by their moves. You say he's being wasted, and maybe so, but it's not like a Rodgers situation where the FO doesn't listen to him. You say they're not making the moves to help Josh, but I doubt Josh feels that way. Josh has had an elite WR for most of his career, plus good vet role players, and in the past two drafts they've taken two receivers with their first pick who they think can be great in Kincaid and Keon.

Field stretcher in your terms has to be Samuel as he's the only guy with elite top end speed. Shakir also has good top end speed, but they're not going to use him that way. Coleman can still "stretch the field" per say, but in the same way Gabe Davis did it. Coleman's top end speed isn't fast, but he gets there quick and is a threat to make the play, even if he's covered. He's still running 21-22 mph when he gets to full speed, too. It's nothing to sneeze at.

Coleman's an exceptional athlete and great route runner. I think that'll make a difference in allowing him to be successful. I don't think he's Mike Evans. I don't know why people started making that comparison. Wishful thinking, I guess. He's Robbie Anderson to me. Robbie was the same height, but about 20 lbs lighter, which attributed to a faster 40 time. Yet Coleman had a better 10 yard split and the same vertical and broad jumps, give and take an inch respectively. Both are/were explosive, fluid athletes with great hands and jump ball getters.

I'll let Josh be the judge of that. By all accounts, he's speaking up for what he wants and the FO is listening. I lean more towards coaching and in game decisions that are wasting Allen, not the talent on the field.

We are pretty young in the WR/TE/RB department for what it's worth. I mean, if Kincaid, Coleman, and Shakir end up being our top three receivers, that's a super young group. Then you have the developmental guys like Shorter....Cook and Davis at RB....this is a young skill position group. More like giving in to your sadness

I'm willing to bet up to $50 ( that's like buying someone dinner at a decent restaurant), but if a beer is all it is, I'll honor it too. I guess 1 beer is almost $50 at the stadium, anyway....

Blocking TE who occasionally catches a pass. I'm here for it.

We could turn him into the best run blocking WR the game has ever seen.

What do you want to bet?

No one's expecting Samuel to be the #1, but if you think he can have a career year with Josh, that's an objectively great year. Coleman as the other outside receiver (who's also plenty versatile as a big, explosive receiver), plus Kincaid, Cook, Shakir, and Knox. Brady's going to get similar if not better production out of those guys than he did with his 2020 Carolina weapons (four 1000+ yarders! with the ghost of Cam Newton and Teddy Bridgewater as his QBs). You don't really have a leg to stand on when complaining about this. It's okay to be realistic and take a wait-and-see approach, but the dooms day posting that some people are doing is absurd.

So you think he can have a career year of 900+ yards receiving, regardless of the other extra yards he can get. He's a versatile speedster. Idk what you're worried about.

He was actually over 1000 yards from scrimmage that year You don't really know what you're complaining about

If Samuel stays healthy, I wouldn't be surprised if he also has the best season of his career. As a fan of the team who obviously knows the history of other vets having career years, why would you not be optimistic about that?

He's a poor man's Spencer Brown

He does make it up elsewhere, which was obvious to the Bills when they scouted him. It's also why he was a punt returner, despite being tall and "slow."

Absolutely. I'd like to do a comparison between this offense and Brady's 2020 Carolina offense. The Panthers struggled at QB, but they still had 4 players go for 1000+ yards of total yard from scrimmage (DJ Moore, Robbie Anderson, Curtis Samuel, and Mike Davis) The Bills have their Robbie Anderson, Curtis Samuel (literally) and Mike Davis, but they don't have a DJ Moore. They do have a Dalton Kincaid and Khalil Shakir, who are totally different offensive weapons, so it will be interesting to see what Brady draws up in order to get similar production to what he got with that Carolina offense. And obviously, Brady has Josh Allen. And then we can't forget about Knox. Keon can absolutely go for 1000+ in this offense, as can Cook. I'd be surprised if Samuel does, but I wouldn't be surprised with 800 yards from him. I imagine Kincaid is 900-1000 and Shakir is 700-800 but it's a real question mark.

Coleman is actually Beane's Robbie Anderson (a.k.a. Robbie Chosen), tall and athletic.

Honestly, they've been pretty good at scouting WRs. I fault them for never making it a huge priority, but when they've drafted receivers (including TEs) the prospects have turned out good.

I was making a joke about our new LB/Edge

He's the best run-blocking WR in this draft

Boo hoo