DriveFor1Outta5

I don’t need evidence. I wasn’t stating facts, I’m just sharing an option. My sentence starts by saying “IF I’m the Colts I’d consider”. I will disagree that our draft currency is overrated, although you would be correct in saying it might not have been enough for the Colts. Personally, I’d take two first round picks with the 12th and 22 over the 6th, if I’m not targeting a QB which the Colts obviously aren’t.

Bortles held his team back, and Keenum did have a great season (yet the Vikings parted with him). Foles (won’t be starter next season) made the playoffs based off the work of Wentz. He happened to get hot at the right time. Foles already had an incredible season with Chip Kelly. He has shown to be a streaky player who can light it up at times. Foles is a talented QB who can look elite, or just plain awful. McCarron doesn’t have the skill set of Foles. McCarron projects as a game managing backup QB. I don’t discount the point that you made. I just don’t think that the NFL has changed to the point where you can use these examples as the template to success. You still need a real QB.

Fair enough, but at this point I’m not sure what the team plans on doing with all the spare $$. I’ll agree with all of that, if the amassing of draft picks result in a top QB.

He was good, but offensive linemen can be shuffled. Nothing wrong with having a great line with depth. If they didn’t resign Glenn it’d be a different story, but I’d have let him play out his contract.

Because if you hit on a QB you’ve solved many of your problems. Shying away from going all in on the position has resulted in years of post-Kelly futility. A nice roster with a backup level talent such as McCarron is going nowhere.

Every draft pick is a question mark. The QB position is just heavily scrutinized to the point that it makes us see more failures. An average QB is viewed more as a bust than an average linebacker. Maybe, but why trade Glenn? If you’re building a roster, why create a hole? Everything that we’ve done has indicated that we are collecting assets to acquire a QB. Otherwise, trading a large number of players isn’t the first step to creating a roster with good depth. Trading guys away creates holes that need to be filled. Only drafting a franchise QB allows those decisions to make sense imo. I know that Glenn had injury issues, but talented tackles don’t grow on trees. So, did we just trade Glenn only to replace him in the draft? That would true old school OBD management right there.

If I’m the Colts I’d consider taking 12, 22, and 53 (maybe next years second) over the Jets 6, 37, and 49 plus next years second. Beane likely didn’t offer that much, and plenty of others on this board wouldn’t either if they were GM. All of these draft picks were meant to be used as draft assets to cash in for a QB (at least I thought). I’d be willing to use them to finally bring a bona fide pro QB prospect to Buffalo.

How could the Bills really think that highly of McCarron? Think about how they signed him. They basically waited until the free agency QB rush slowed down before signing him. This allowed McCarron’s market value to project downward. If Beane viewed McCarron as a franchise QB, they wouldn’t have waited until the ball dropped with the other FA QB’s. It appears that the Bills were taking the path of signing the cheapest option as their “bridge QB”. I’m not convinced they cared who that guy would be. Its quite possible that the front office viewed all the FA QB’s as being close to equals. Signing a cheap option such as McCarron made the most sense if that was their logic. Beane nor anyone else will ever be able to sell me the idea that McCarron is the franchise guy. It’s not impossible that they won’t try to sell this idea, but only if Beane fails to secure a legit starting QB in the draft.

The game shouldn’t have been over though. Beane should have been willing to outbid the Jets. I always try my best not to be drawn to hyperbolic reactions, but this looks bad thus far. Maybe I value the QB position more than Beane. I’m not excepting any of the top three ( Mayfield, Rosen, Darnold) to be available with picks 7-10.

This NFL draft should be more of a checkers game, so I’m fine playing checkers. We need a franchise QB, it’s as simple as that. Don’t over complicate that simple fact. If we don’t get a first tier QB this draft, the draft is a failure imo. Beane will eventually be playing chess with his pink slip, if he doesn’t get a QB this draft.

Ha, I misread the “I” part. Same here.

They’ve just put so much into what appeared to be a move for a QB. Why weren’t we the ones who made this trade with the Colts? We could have made a better offer than the Jets. My only answer is they think that they need the number two pick for their guy, or they want someone to fall to them at 12 (bad mistake imo). Either way, I disagree with the philosophy. This QB class is deep at the top. I’d feel pretty good sitting at no.3. I’d feel much better today if we were the ones who made that trade. I hope you’re right about securing the #2. The latter part, not so much. This is a talented QB class. Next seasons class will be nowhere close to this one in talent. Beane would simply be saving cash for a team who will be firing him soon, if he doesn’t get a QB this season.

Right, their backs are to the wall now. They have to get something done for a top QB. There is no way that they can’t do so without looking like idiots imo. You don’t trade away a garage full of cars for two Dodge Neons. That’s basically what they’d be doing.

Those guys would be morons if they mortgage their future on McCarron. They haven’t done so yet, just saying that it would idiotic if they did so.

Great point. Their collective potential has somewhat diminished their individual accomplishments. In the competitive world of sports we always want to pit guys against each other. One guy has to be the best for us to be satisfied. The reality may be something completely different. There is the chance that all of these guys might become great. This is why it’s a bad year to go second tier imo.

Not at all

I’m not a Mayfield guy, but I’d take him over the second tier guys without question. I’m not sold on him, but he has a chance to be great. I use this an an example to show that I’m not sold on all of these guys, but I won’t deny the amazing potential that the top of this QB draft class possess. I’d be terrible to miss out on one of the first tier guys this year, even Mayfield.

That makes me feel so much better.

This is why the Jets trade scares me so much. Beane has done everything right up to this point. We have/had all the equity necessary to make a move for a franchise QB. Jackson or Rudolph would feel like old times at OBD.

Nope we will have Rudolph or Jackson ?

The kicker is the fact that I want to see Mayfield, Rosen, or Darnold in a Bills uni. Anything less is simply a disappointment. Allen or Jackson would feel more like the OBD you mentioned.

This^ It hurts a lot, no sense in pretending it doesn’t.

Thanks, I’d forgotten that. He is so often tied to the hip of McD in conversation, I forget that they didn’t arrive in unison.

With Mahomes in KC, and now likely a top QB prospect in NY, this could look really bad for Beane.

The haul won’t matter, if McCarron’s ceiling is that of a backup QB. The Bills have tired the winning with a mediocre QB method for almost two decades now. It doesn’t work.