BringBackOrton

Right. Just like when the Bears called the Raiders about Khalil Mack.

If they called to see if he’s available, he has value.

Remember that Sam Bradford somehow got traded for a 1st rounder twice.

Watkins played like 8 games that year. Stop embarrassing yourself. If we had picked up Sammy’s fifth year, it would have been $4M in difference from KB. Oh, and we would still have another 3rd rounder.

I mean, when you’re mentioning the third string safeties instead of the starters, that’s admitting defeat. “That team sucked! Look at the player we signed week 3 due to injuries.” Yikes dude. How much did we save this year with KB over Watkins? 4M?

So McD gets no credit for White, Dawkins, Milano, Hyde or Poyer? Got it. CITATION NEEDED.

That's where I disagree. They ABSOLUTELY have a plan. But if you're going to intentionally dismantle a roster, the onus is on them to prove they have a better alternate. You don't get to trade everyone away then argue it's not fair to judge you for your ****ty roster. Yep. The Bills had a ton of talent without a QB. The new regime traded away all their talent, then drafted a QB in a ****ty position then said "Hey! We don't have any talent it's not our fault!" bull ****. With the power of hindsight?!?! I SCREAMED for Watson the entire predraft process. McD was hired in January. He had 4 MONTHS to figure who he wanted in the first round in 2017. I'm a guy with a keyboard, he's an NFL coach. He had time to scout Poyer and Hyde in that time. The argument that he couldn't evaluate a QB in 4 months is really bad when you trusted him to evaluate a QB correctly the year after. Talk about asking for failure.

So instead we are supposed to pretend that McD was physically unable from writing Watson or Mahomes on that card? So instead we are supposed to pretend that trading Dareus for a sixth round pick, accelerating his cap hit and then doubling down by signing Star to a long term deal to do exactly what Dareus was doing was physically necessary? You want my rebuild strategy? Okay. Don't trade Darby. Take Watkins fifth year option. Boom. Starting NFL caliber CB and WR. Draft a rookie QB. Look at that, he has a WR who can get open, AND we still have a CB who can play in the NFL. Don't trade Dareus, he's a sunk cost and trading him leaves a hole at DT you'll need to fill with an overpriced FA anyway who won't have All-Pro potential. Boom. Starting DT to eat up blockers at the very least. There you go. Win now and in the future. Easy as pie.

No. Deshaun Watson and Patrick Mahomes are 1000000000% better QBs than Josh Allen right now. That's pure objective fact. They threw out the baby with the bathwater. They have to prove their baby is better. When we have 1 million posts on how the offense sucks, how this team has no talent, how this is the growing pains, that's completely on McBeane's shoulders. They created this roster. They accelerated dead cap by moving players they didn't have to. They traded a 3rd round pick for KB. They let go or released or traded players.

No I wanted the good ones. They took the worse one.

Has nothing to do with the ones I wanted, has to do with the good ones.

McD was. The Titans don't have a losing record. They are the team with the winning record.

Because you're dead wrong. That's why it's so funny. We had the assets to get the QB all along. Our head coach passed on Watson AND Mahomes. If we had re-signed Woods, we would have had Watson/Mahomes in 2017 passing to Watkins, Woods, Zay, with Richie, Wood, Glenn, Darby, Hyde, Poyer, Dareus, Hughes, Kyle, Dawkins, Milano. Acting like this FO "got it right" trading everyone from the 2016 team away, just to get assets to try to replace them is hilarious. And acting like they needed to trade everybody to get a QB when they had already passed on two better ones to get a DB is even more funny.

What are you talking about? Not only did this not address my post at all, it's wrong. We literally signed "middling" free agents. We signed Star at a premium. We made Patrick Dimarco the highest paid fullback in the league. We signed Chris Ivory, Trent Murphy. Here is the great big secret. We didn't go between 7-9 and 9-7 from 2013-2016 because we signed middle of the road free agents. We won that many games because we had a PRETTY GOOD TEAM with garbage at the QB position. PERIOD. Dareus, Mario, Gilmore, Shady, Watkins. ZERO OF THEM WERE MIDDLING FREE AGENTS. Darby, Preston Brown, Aaron Williams, Wood, Woods, Goodwin, Glenn. ZERO OF THEM WEE MIDDLING FREE AGENTS. Bad take. I just can't believe we beat the the NFC Super Bowl team, the Minnesota Vikings. Wanna bet they don't get there John?

No John. You're just wrong, again. Last year, we beat the Broncos, who were supposed to be good. They ended up sucking. We beat the Falcon, reigning NFC champs. They barely squeaked out 9-7. How many years do you have to get burned by the stove before you realize its hot? Honestly.

Yeah exactly. Everyone is picking Minnesota to win the Super Bowl this year right now, just like they did in preseason. LOL

Lol murderer's row? We beat one team with a winning record.

“We’re 2-1 (if you don’t count the two blow out losses)” are my favorite kind of posts.

The NFL butterfly effect is super real. We can even look at the Bills. Imagine taking Myles Jack instead of Shaq. That might mean no Edmunds and instead, we take RIdley. Moves have far reaching consequences.

I would normally agree but I think he has the physical attributes to be a guy. I wouldn't hate it.

I have long said that the only way to become a powerhouse in the NFL outside of tanking is to draft a couple stars in the later rounds.

3-4 explosive plays per game and ball control the rest of the way is a Super Bowl winning formula if you can pull it off.

A few more Austin Proehl's, Tanner Vallejo's, and Nate Petey's and we'll be cooking boy.

Young QB's almost always revert to sloppy footwork and mechanics under duress. Their one consistency is inconsistency. Better protection and trust in his WR's along with coaching should help.

But then the Bills need to figure out who is our Jeff Fisher and fire his ass like Tashard Choice.