BringBackOrton

Well he's the common link between now and the 90s, right?

Good point. Today was all Marv's fault

It takes courage to believe babe.

What QB coach has a great success rate with rookies?

I will defend Peterman. Under no circumstances should Daboll be calling intermediate to deep outs with him under center. Part of being an OC and playcaller is knowing your personnel. If you can't understand he doesn't have the arm to get it there, you are an incompetent idiot. Calling the same plays for Allen and Petey is a fool's errand. Peterman needs quick slants and balls he can throw over defenders heads. Allen is the guy who can drive the ball 15-20 yards on the out. Just terrible.

Just because it got wiped away doesn't mean he didn't throw it. You asked for throws, not plays that didn't stand due to away from the ball penalties. No doubt the McCoy throw was a bad decision. I cringed watching it. It was still a great throw that most NFL QB's won't throw, mostly because they can't get it there. He was on one freaking foot.

He may have passed Lattimore after today. One of the best days out of a CB in a Bills uni I've ever seen, even playing against the refs.

He had an really bad lack of effort blocking for Shady in the second level in the 4th Q. Granted, not a lot of #1 WR's go all out blocking. But...

Agreed. You probably could ruin a guy who could be a journeyman/backup though. Oh well.

Did you see the ball to KB that got wiped away by penalty? Or the ball to Shady across his body running in the opposite direction? I watched Jay Cutler in his prime try that exact same pass Allen tried to Shady and it hit Kyle Williams in the numbers. Cutler, as you should know, had one of the best arms in the NFL at the time.

If a QB loses confidence after a handful of rough outings, he was never going to be great, IMO.

Short of finding an offensive savant coach, Allen was always going to have to take his lumps like most young QBs.

Ha ha okay dude!

The project label is overblown. There are very few QBs in the college game drafted highly that don't have things to work on. Allen got by in college with his arm strength, which led to some sloppy footwork and throwing habits. You draft a young QB, surround him with players who can get him feeling comfortable, and work on whatever faults they have. We just haven't done step 2 yet. I'm sorry, your call cannot be completed as dialed. Please hang up and try again. He got the win. Ergo, played well enough to win. See Bills v Titans 10/7/18 for more info.

No they didn't. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2765842-nfl-draft-400-top-qbs-for-2018-nfl-draft#slide20 Matt Miller gave him the second highest QB grade in 2018. Ranked him a 1st rounder.

Thank you. Watson had an ugly game, but in the biz of making excuses for QBs, we do call it "played well enough to win." See, Bills v Titans on 10/7/18 for more info.

Two terrible INTs? You call a freak ball batted in the air that drops incomplete 99/100 times a "terrible INT?" No.

Wrong. Allen was a clear 1st round prospect due to his physical abilities. He has more arm talent than 3/4ths of NFL QBs.

Yep. Excellent play by both guys, but Hopkins is just insane.

I mean, he’s going to get it looked at. But pre-imaging probability places it at 1000-1. Especially bc they almost certainly tested the joint on the sideline.

I think that pass to McCoy in the first Q was the worst or second worst decision I've seen Allen make all year. He also sucks at making decisions about taking hits. He's actually getting worse about avoiding contact.

I mean, all offenses without talent are boring and predictable. Because they can't execute wrinkles. We saw a handful of screen plays today. Shady lost 2 yards and Clay barely got back to the LOS. Allen faced Watt on the right edge all day, not exactly the kind of day you want to roll him out a bunch of times. The double move call on Wright was a good play. Ivory couldn't get anything going and neither could McCoy til the fourth. The same people who bemoan "run run 3rd and long" also say "WHY ARE THEY PASSING ON FIRST DOWN, OUR PASSING GAME SUCKS NOW ITS SECOND AND 10 AND WE HAVE TO THROW" so excuse me for not accepting that line of thought.

Mostly because you don't get UCL tears from getting hit on the arm. You get it from years of chronic stress. Which is why it is roughly 1 million times more common in baseball players than football players.

I mean, who do you want as HC/OC right now that wants a crack at the Josh Allen/Zay Jones connection? Is Daboll a failure because he hasn't turned an ancient McCoy and a rag tag OL into a top 10 rushing attack?

Why?