BringBackOrton

He's throwing before Watkins is open. He clearly missed the opposite read, but Watkins is the #1 on that play most likely. A better ball and that's a TD.

I believe I already did, somewhere. You failed to respond to it then, too.

I just checked out your link and I didn't see a 16 game to 16 game analysis. Cherry picking 5 games and saying SEE! is hardly thorough.

Did you ever compare the number of consecutive 3 and outs of 2014 compared with 2015?

Didn't he take over the worst team in NFL history and get them to the playoffs in 3 years?

Maybe you're not understanding what I'm saying. Because my first point was exactly that if the 2014 defense had lost the same players the 2016 defense had, namely Aaron Williams, it wouldn't have felt the loss nearly as much.

Huh? AW's play was average in 2014, along with Searcy. Are you actually attempting to argue that S play in Schwartz's Wide 9 is as important as Rex's scheme?

Schwartz' system is much less predicated on safety play and "QBing" back there. That's undeniable. So the injuries would've affected us less.

You forget that in 2014, Aaron Williams wasn't the keystone piece.

Nah. Our OL is top 5 in the NFL and the bad WR's are getting open.

Exactly!

Actually, what broke it was taking Dareus over Dalton. If we had done that, it would've been perfect.

We didn't draft a QB in 2014. They signed Mario 2 years before EJ whose contract ended up being a big old waste of time. They did it backwards.

You need unilateral vision. You need a GM/HC who know what they are signing up for. A total dismantling, trading away mid tier players to stockpile picks, minimal FA action except young guys. You get a top 5 pick and take either the best QB on the board, or if your talent evaluators feel there isn't anyone even close to worth it, trade down or pick BPA and the very next pick take a QB. Then the next season, you powow on the state of that QB. If he's making progress and you feel comfortable with him, you draft a guy in the 2nd or 3rd to back him up. If not, the same strategy as above. By year 3, you'll either have a QB making strides or your latest rookie with a year of the system competing for the job. As well as hopefully multiple blue chip players ready to make a push. In year 3, you go all out, sign a big FA or 2 in the worst spots of your team, and make a postseason push. And that, my friends, is basically what the Oakland Raiders did. And they are 10-2. Mack, Carr 1 year. Cooper the next. Cook to back up Carr. And then went all out in FA (Irvin, Osmele, Sean Smith.) The fans don't matter. The pressure isn't there. It's vision and a plan.

Yes, listen to the man who took 8 weeks longer than everyone else to realize TT regressed.

Sure they are. Their consolation prize would've been Mack if someone else had taken Care. That's not bad. It's easier said than done, but it's really not. Having a high 1st pick increases your chance of finding the best QB, on the whole. The logical approach is to lose enough games to maximize your chance of stumbling on a Winston, Mariota, Bridgewater, Carr, Wentz, Dak, Matty Ice, Stafford, Cam, Luck etc etc etc. Because the bottom line is that the team that picked after the Raiders 2nd pick in 2014 had a zero percent chance of drafting Carr.

Could be Trubinsky or Mahomes. The bottom line is having a high pick means you get very talented players and the pick of QB's. Getting a high doesn't mean you're screwed when there's no clear #1 overall. You just keep trying. It's that easy.

That's what the Raiders probably thought in 2014, not with the 1st overall but with a top 5 pick. Instead, they got a future HoFer AND a franchise guy.

Sounds like the Pegulas should work on getting a high first in order to do so.

Indisputable. Martha Ford's team is 8-4 this season. The Bucs found Jameis in their first season. The Titans' new owner took 2 years to find Mariota. Those are the last 3.

Believe me, I'm aware.

Failing? Isn't he in the top 1% of his profession? Shouldn't you be laughing at folks calling him a failure? Anyway, if you wanna start a CJ Spiller sucked in the NFL GoFundMe, I'd be happy to donate $10.

The march to 2000 yards continues. If you don't think he's one of the best backs in the NFL, you just don't know football.

They took a team above .500 and brought them to .500. Not exactly a winning formula.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.