BringBackOrton

Things that don't affect passer rating: 1. Scrambles 2. Sacks Things that Taylor does often: 1. Scrambles 2. Sacks Unsurprising that metrics that don't account for part of a player's game are different.

I guess I've never seen anybody put Luck in the top 4. Potentially, sure, but not there already. And I don't know if I've ever called him ELITE. I'm also really confused. You DO place him in the top 12, with guys like Stafford (definitely worse than Luck statistically, worse TD:INT ratio, worse W-L ratio), Cousins (also statistically inferior, worst TD:INT, worse W-L), and Carr (a comparable TD:INT but a worse W-L). And that's fine, honestly. I get there's some wiggle room and eye test and all that. But can you honestly say Luck wasn't playing up to his contract, when Stafford and Carr are making more and Cousins is holding out to join them? And then you say, "it's too long to be talking about potential," moments after talking about how Smith flew up the rankings after being drafted 11 years ago. These QB ratings are fluid, is my point. Luck's getting paid a lot, sure. He doesn't have a lot of financial risk. But if he came back and replicated 2014 on the 2018 Buffalo Bills, exact same numbers, exact same record, and an AFCCG appearance, would you still call him overrated? I would call him worth every penny, because that's what you have to do to keep QB's around with that level of talent and potential these days.

If Luck was healthy tomorrow, he'd be a top 12 QB in the NFL easily, right?

QB is trending upward, was my point.

Cutler's last game was his best all year.

I think you're being revisionist dude. 4-4 and playoffs were "not unexpected?"

They were 4-4 in week 9 man. With the Jets x2, Bills, NE and Ravens on the schedule.

I don't think ANYONE expected that.

They made the playoffs last year.

You didn't post about TD:INT in the regular season lol. Your bias is showing my dude. TD's also matter a lot, and not a peep about them in the regular season. But I guess a QB who had a bad game his last playoff game that he only got to because he dragged his team there sucks.

Or if you beat NE but Jacoby Brisset was playing. He's a third string guy who should NEVER be starting!

What were the facts again? TO's and playoff TD:INT record? Wow, certainly the only two stats I look at to evaluate every starting QB in the NFL.

You mean the same tired slant we've heard for 2 years? I skimmed it and found it as unconvincing as ever.

Unless you beat NE when Brady only plays the first half. Then it doesn't count.

Rightfully so.

Seriously. The old guard is just about spent, I think. Two years from now TT may be top 10 in the NFL if some more guys get injured/retire.

See, the Matt Ryan example seems a little off base. He's a guy who has had one or two down years in his whole career, and suddenly this down year is because he lost his OC that he hasn't even had that long? I think it's more likely that whole team is reeling from getting their heart ripped out and Matt Ryan was bound to regress a little from his awesome year. Losing Shanny hurts too, but I don't think it's just that. Watch out now, NoSaint. If you lose the bet, you won't be allowed to post ANYTHING negative about Transplant for a whole week. Doesn't that sound fun?

Reported. Stats were brought into it in the OP. Good work as always Hokie. Really liked including the guys who are out and the guys still playing.

Rob Quinn needs to stop stealing article ideas from my topics.

Don't play in the mud if you don't wanna get dirty baby!

Because those people acted like jerks?

Weird, I remember a guy defending Shaq to the death after week 2.

Yep. Shaq was supposed to be a great defensive piece to make up for that shoulder surgery. He's looked like an average NFLer instead of a top DE.