BringBackOrton

Are you sure? Maybe throw it out there another time, just in case.

But can you tell me if you've ever played at a D1 level?

Ohhh so you only disappeared for 10 days and two Bills losses in blowouts. You got me.

I'm pretty sure you haven't posted here in the last 2 weeks. Way to put the money where your mouth is, clown.

I'm not kidding. It was a terrible throw in a VERY clean pocket with TONS of time to a WIDE OPEN receiver. Just like when EJ had a terrible throw to a wide open Gragg years ago. You simply CANNOT be an NFL QB if you're letting teams off the hook like that.

His miss on O'Leary was EJ-level bad.

That's because they lost a lot and built one of the most talented rosters in the NFL. A franchise QB on that team would go undefeated. They wouldn't be where they are without tanking

I think you'll find a lot of overlap between Mayfield and Manziel guys. Some folks only take the negatives from the attitude, imo.

Breesus.

He's got more guts in his little finger than TT though.

Mayfieeeeeeld

The Jags were perennial basement dwellers and now look at them. The Seahawks built their core talent like every other good team. Hit on some later picks who turn out to be franchise-tier players. Sherman, Antonio Brown, Leveon Bell, Brady etc etc.

Yes, and 27 other teams will have missed out on them as well. But some of those teams have found other QB's. I want a franchise QB. An All-Timer would be nice, but those are harder to come by.

How many years more has TT been in the league? I omitted doing 20 years of research because the first 10 was sufficient to blow your take out of the water. You're acting like a caricature of yourself right now.

Okay, last 10 years. 2016 NFC Ryan-Rodgers 2015 NFC Palmer-Cam 2014 NFC Wilson-Rodgers 2013 NFC Wilson-Kaep 2012 NFC Kaep-Ryan 2011 NFC Eli-Smith 2010 NFC Rodgers-Cutler 2009 NFC Brees-Favre 2008 NFC Warner-McNabb 2007 NFC Eli-Favre So in bold are the QB's picked in the top 11. Seven in total. Compared to the 6 not picked in the top 11. Looking good so far. 2016 AFC Brady-Ben 2015 AFC Peyton-Brady 2014 AFC Brady-Luck 2013 AFC Peyton-Brady 2012 AFC Flacco-Brady 2011 AFC Flacco-Brady 2010 AFC Ben-Sanchez 2009 AFC Peyton-Sanchez 2008 AFC Ben-Flacco 2007 AFC Rivers-Brady So in the bold are the QB's picked top in the top 11. 5 in total. Compared to the 3 not picked in the top 11. Even with Brady and to a lesser extent Wilson skewing the numbers, the conclusion is clear. Top 1st round pick QB's are the ones who go deeper into the post season. And before you go "how many top 1st round QB's bust," remember that 100x more QB's are drafted rounds 2-7 that flame out. Thanks for playing. Bad 'ol BADOL.

Deshaun Watson would've won more games under center as a Bill this year, I think.

He's got 7 years on Taylor.

Yes. Fools gold.

Well why isn't Tyrod helping them now?

With TT on the Jets, we have 2 for sure wins which makes the playoffs that much easier.

Bruce and Talley were USFL guys? Funny how having some high picks in talented areas led us to the best era in franchise history.

I hope he goes to the Jets and is his normal mediocre self. Would make getting to the playoffs that much easier.

Well, I mean, we had the #1 rushing attack and #30 passing attack. If we were 31st in passing, we may have been terrible.

I'm not trolling. I think not including the QB's who got to the game before the Super Bowl is silly. When Brady has appeared in 7 Super Bowls out of the last 17, no wonder it's one sided to non-first rounders. You constantly make these arbitrary distinctions which support your points by omission. It's effective, but not logical.

The offense was good. Shady McCoy was great. TT was as painfully mediocre as he is this year.