BringBackOrton

Richie ain't costing anybody anything. Interesting point about not costing employers money. Sounds a lot like that whole kneeling thing.

Nothing like judging a man's character based on second hand accounts. Losers sit at home and complain. Winners go home with the prom queen.

After fighting to get them extensions? This is the narrative?

This was a mistake, in hindsight. The Pegulas gambled they could do better than Marrone and lost in the process as well.

How many games did Gus Bradley win with his built team?

OC for Cleveland, Miami and KC. He’s lived.

Self-fulfilling prophecy?

Blake was slingin’ it all over the place today

One Gronk injury from a Jags Super Bowl.

Loved the Dennison hire and I love this one, so we're !@#$ed.

He had a lot of success, but he was on a team with a ton of star power. All that success, and he still won't go down as good as Marino.

You're right. We should get the best WR in the league, too.

How many rings does he have again?

I'm making the argument the HoF isn't the Hall of Equal. If you made a 1-10 list of QB's ever, you'd be hardpressed to convince most folks that Kelly deserves to be over Ben. Conversely, I think most would agree Ben would fall neatly ahead of him.

Terell Davis is in the HoF too. Is it sacrilege to say he wasn't on Barry Sanders', OJ's or Walter Payton's level?

I'm not basing this on how many yards they threw per game.

I'm sorry but Jim Kelly is very overrated as a QB. He was a good QB on a great roster. But he wasn't on Ben's level.

Well, here's the thing, not to get all down into it. But does using racist language make you a "racist?" Richie Incognito may be a loathsome brute, who acts stupid and says even stupider stuff, but is he a racist if he said something racial to Ngakoue? We have inappropriate definitions for things, with vague lines, and a tense climate when discussing it. It's not shocking that it's controversial at all, too me. Everybody has a view and a stance, and we are all imperfect communicators at times. My thinking is that if you pooled all people and found out how they truly "felt," 90% would all be in basic agreement. The other lunatic fringe is just that.

He's so much better than Kelly, it's actually not.

No man. He just works here and gets paid a lot. Richie Incognito's character doesn't represent ****.

1) I respect that and I understand. I think you are a person who respects the Belichickian gamesmanship and pushing the envelope on the rules, right? There's some obvious parallels there, even though its an imperfect analogy. Some folks don't want to "cheat" to win or be asses to win. It's not me, though. I keep separate from all of that. There's things others do and say that I wouldn't, but that's a personal choice and a personal line. 2) I thought you said it was a fireable offense?

Yeah?

LOL

WRONG. They require him to be good at football. Not parent your kids.

Grow up. He left the Bills, not your family.