BillsShredder83

When can we expect that? Have we had a game where our guys lined up out wide have produced? Taking out a wild Ravens game, Keons best game is 45yards 3 catches. Doing same with Palmer is 60 yds in Falcons game. Other than Baltimore, he hasn't had more than 2 receptions in any game. In 7 games we have had our two outside guys combine for 30 catches (Palmer 9, keon 21). You can project it out to 34 had Palmer been healthy the last two. Even if you think Kinc opens things up for our boundry guys (they certaibly havent shown capable), what are we supposed to if Kincaid is banged up in a playoff game? Don't get me wrong, I've been banging the Kincaid drum since we drafted him.... but hes been hampered a ton in his 3 years here. We have SB aspirations. Josh Allen at QB... and all it takes is 1 "banged up", not even "out", injury away from relying on Keon Coleman to help us win a SB. You're fine with that? Lol

We need to find a way to work him in. Cook getting banged up, not even knocked out, could sink this team. We g2 find a way to get Davis going, as Ty Johnson is mostly a pass catcher. If we believe that's impossible, im looking for a competent RB at deadline. Were a run first team, with one RB. We're in deep s***, if Cook gets banged up, let alone misses a game. Id prefer we get Davis touches. Can't just be garbage time when everyone knows its a run. He needs real reps and ill die on this hill.

We need competent outside play. Defenses get to narrow the field, as well as crowd the line. When things are going well its fine. If were going to win 3-4 playoff games against playoff defenses. We can not afford to roll out these current guys. When things are rolling like yesterday its great, but you can not let a playoff defense take away 50% of the playing surface. Crowd the line... double Kincaid... commit most resources between hashes, and we become pedestrian quickly. Even if the Olave , Shaheed, Addisons of the world aren't available, we need to bring in a guy thats competent on the outside.

Its baffling to me that we cant spell our best players names right 3 years in lol We g2 treat practices like games. Let's be better!

Make a condition where they cant suit up. Done. Next?

Yep we need to have the ability, should we need it, to play from behind. Also jumping out to a lead like 10-0, 14-3, would be great to have in the bag. Take the run game away from teams. Let all these pass rush specialists be able to pin their ears back for more downs. Id be worried playing catch up with these WRs... but in a pinch Cook getting involved would be helpful AF

Easier to have time to do that when youre not beat by 4 steps!

Less interest in Ridley, for this year especially... but if they'd play ball on a deal like this im interested in adding him to the mix. Maybe he gets healthy, but if not hes worth something next year. Exactly "what" that is... I dunno. Hard to get a read with that team around him

I think hes being black listed by NFL. Certainly not openly, and maybe no words even need to be said about him specifically... but one of those things where teams know nfl is waiting to slap him with a suspension if signed... or Goodell willing to find ways to make teams lives inconvenient for stepping out. Feels a little bit like we've seen this before... although feels a little murky exactly who it was. Antonio Brown? Araiza? I feel like im missing a more obvious one. I think nfl & nflpa want that guaranteed money wrinkle he has with Oakland figured out before anyone pokes around

Yeah its a no brainer to sign a 2yr extension at minimum, maybe 1 if his agent wont do 2.

Hes not the guy I want, but I think a lot of this board is way underestimating Jakobi. Not as sexy or splashy as my heart lusts for, but we are instantly a better team with him. Hes nice to plug in while Palmer is out. And even nicer to play across from Palmer when hes back. Were severely missing competent WR play on the outside and he brings that. Josh elevates what hes done in his career imo too

Thanks for this post! Interesting point you mentioned with the scout 2 scout /asst gm. I need to rewatch that Schoen Hard Knocks, was by far the best thing they've ever put out. I hate not knowing what the day 2 day life of a GM/FO looks like. Maybe theres a book out there from a retired GM? Id love to hear more about it. One thing I really love about Beane. Hes let some light out on things that most gm's wont, almost out of an outdated secrecy ritual.

Thats a positive IMO. I hate it, I like what he is capable of when healthy on the field.... but he never is. If someone else will take his contract, send us someone we need, and only wants a bump in compensation, than that makes it that much more appealing to me!

Theres no way he has this kind of sway anymore. A) Age. Dudes mid already, and realistically could/should retire at any minute B) Performance. Its actually remarkable what hes done at his age & after serious injury like that... with that said, he'd be incredibly lucky to get that team (or any other) out of the first round. No way are you letting this guy have input in the future of your franchise, especially not a well respected bunch like the Rooney's

Baffling it hasnt happened already. Im hoping they keep him on till the end of season so that we have a chance if Brady takes a HC job in college or pros! I like getting a guy who was a good coordinator, and failed as a HC. I think that experience cant do anything but make them a better coordinator, even when it didnt work out.

I dont think anybody is asking for a deep ball attack from this team. The most impressive tool in Josh 's game is the intermediate lazers. I get defenses bottling deep stuff away from us... we cant willingly let them bottle us up to a 5yds or less pass system. Got to find a way to make teams respect more of the field

Yeah that didnt work out right.... g2 say what a dumb slip up whoever leaked that "we were done with Cooper" clip leak. I know its not the end of the world, but that kinda thing can hurt relationships with other teams, and more importantly gives ZERO UPSIDE to let that out. Not to mention, youre the Browns lol not exactly killing it. Pure idiocy from that FO... at all times, even the small crap

Im not being facetious when I say I hope he's learned how to catch. I want to eat a s*** sandwhich so bad. Please baby Jesus give us a miraculous reuniting story about how Gabe became Devonte Adams at 26yrs old after blowing out his knee. We need a miracle

I almost hit him with my car as a teenager downtown before LOL true story. Night before a season opener, near all the bars (I wasnt there for that), kept creeping up in my car as the white line was behind these 2 buildings... parked cars on side of road and busy traffic, very tricky to see, busy traffic. I krpt creeping up and was tunnel visioned on an opening. Getting ready to hit the gas and outta the corner of my eye I see something. Stomp the brake! A VERY ANNOYED FAMILIAR LOOKING FACE CROSSES IN FRONT HAHA I yelled, "I ALMOST HIT THE 'PRISON BREAK GUY!'" MY BAD WILLIAM! I'M NOW MUCH MORE AWARE WHEN CREEPING FORWARD IN THOSE SCENARIOS

The opposite of bolded... but yes, he was most certainly going to redshirt

When you have a crap spot on a draft board, too high to reach for talents too low, you draft physical freaks. The dude is rawwwwwww if you've seen any film. The guy was always going to be a redshirt! With that said, tape of him from early college, you'd think he'd never been coached or played football... its a grand canyon sized improvement he made over his career in college... so you bank on the physical traits, and hope that he can make the jump with enough exposure at the next level. I still like the pick, and I'll be serving up s*** & crow sandwhiches to you all by this time next year

He meant the literal tears and crying. Knowing what we know now, Kirk probably deserves to issue an apology; private or publicly. At the time, it very much reminded me of the Derek Carr scene, crying on the field, after getting smacked around on blitzes/sacks, and upset at a turnover or whatever it was. That was embarrassing. I'm not even a biggest meathead type personality, around this sport, and it permanently changed how I saw that dude... Now imagine this through the lens of an NFL room; containing 53 highhh T dudes. Each have 25years of always being the most alpha in any room, their entire room. Every guy banged up and hurting, they're pissed off too.... and you see a guy thats supposed to lead you crying like that. This wasnt crying during emotionally charged Natty Anthem, or Hamlin dying on the field, or death of a teammate. That was a look most here can remember seeing on a literal broken child; too soft for pop-warner/JV. They knew and everyone else knew - they didnt belong at this level, and they'd never make it. Probably wouldn't admit it, but he lost support on the team that night from players, and staff. Wentz gets a pass here (sort of) because he had a broken shoulder... if we're being honest, what we saw is what we already knew - He knew and everyone else knew - he didnt belong at this level, and he'd never make it. This is NOT criticism about his talent level anywhere near as much as, it's about his heart. Wentz has NEVER had his heart into it. He has never appeared to be a guy who loved NFL football... might have not loved college ball either. It's a career to him, and it oozes out of him talking.

I think all the hooplah around here about that interview is the most overblown topic on this site that I've seen since I can't remember when. Beane was a bit prickly that day, but at the same time, he did what leaders do and stuck up for his guys. I think some personal frustration seeped into his response too. I 100% think he had the wrong delivery, and thats the only reason its noteworthy, but thats what I want a guy in management to do 100 of 100 times... Stand Up for Your Guys when they aren't around to defend themselves. Criticism (constructive or not), serves nobody when public facing in the 4 major leagues. We're not privy to all the FA's/attempted trades we've unsuccessfully attempted to lure into (Metcalf?) the building. Nor are we aware of all attempts to move around the draft board, that just didn't pan out. WR's havent exactly been falling off of trees the last few years. Beane needs to shoulder the load of having given that extension to Diggs when he did, knowing what we know now. It lead to him having to offload a toxic asset prematurely, and eating a dead cap hit to do so. In no way do I think we went into that offseason, thinking a deal needed to be made. We were going to try and tread water with it another year... Diggs blew that up. When he inked that deal, it seemed like a no-brainer, squash the one gripe the guy had... I don't think anyone saw that bipolar mental episode coming, def not at the extension, and def not at that point in the offseason when we unloaded him. It's easy to point to Minnesota and say "he did it while he was there!" That's one data point. The guy had some credible gripes too. Contract. Playing 2nd fiddle to other WR's... being on a run heavy team. We took a chance on a good WR, taking the next step, hoping he'd become great. Diggs did that. He balled out and put his heart in maybe more than anyone on those 2021 + 2022 teams. Predictably, things like that can break a guy, especially a diva. Beane deserves criticism for his part in those decisions, but he didn't make them wholly himself. That episode REALLY screwed up our timeline... and I agree overall, he hasnt done enough at the position, but I dont know how many legit chances he's had to add the fix we need either. TL:DR I'm behind Beane doing what he shouldve been doing, supporting his guys when spotlit in the media. Anything resembling criticism needs to happen behind closed doors. Justtttt Maybe next time lay-off the caffeine before sounding off B.B. and that's the real mistake here, hand serving a sound bite to the media

Bingo! We are not built for catch up... which sucks with how our defense has been playing. We are a #1 WR away from being able to boat race any team we want if/as needed. I want to build early leads and play ahead too, our DL is built to stop the pass (at the expense of run stopping). What better way to lean into that then trying to get 10-14 points on the board early, and let the DL hunt. More of what they like - pass rushing... less of their weakness - the run game. I'll also add, that a team playing behind, with a ton of defensive pressure is going to make Max EXTRA dangerous. In fact, with the extra youth/athleticism we had out there, Bishop/Hancock can be a lot more dangerous vs a team forced to throw, and we know they have to. Its a formula for turnovers. I'm not asking for the '99 Rams playbook... but I think phase 1 of our game should be to get max points on the board early... play action, intermediate chunk plays. Keep Cook involved in both... As we build a lead, work towards defensive gameplan that encourages turnovers.... 2nd half, we can start leaning more heavily into the 'control the ball' plan, we love so much. You g2 be able to move the ball through the air consistently, to do any of that though

I did, and I'm spit balling maybe got overzealous. However, he's cost controlled through this year, and '26 & '27 (team option). From there you could franchise if needed for '28. That's 3 well below market years under control. A rising star. Vikes are cross conference, no issues there. Vikes are deluding themselves into being a contender this year, you g2 slap them with an offer good enough to get them out of lying to themselves, and to sell to the roster/coaches/fans. WR's are incredibly valuable/costly and impossible to obtain with a later pick. Our first round picks are late in the round. Josh is not getting younger, and this puts us a leg up on every other team, in the most wide open playoff race I can remember. Two 1's and a 3, is not that much more than the cost of trading up to get a WR in mid-rounds, missing, and then taking another shot in a different year..... when you look at our swings and misses at the position, we don't scout it well... and theres no more sunken costs in chasing half-measures. 1. $10m Samuel. 2. 2nd rd Keon (jury still out, but hes ceiling is well below a #1, with floor at a #3/#4) 3. That other Saints WR who I already forget the name of from 2 years ago 4. Josh Palmer jury is very still up in the air, it could have some legs down the road, but he wasnt/probably isnt going to be the guy this year Everything else is sort of rounding into shape with Hairston back, Hancock putting out solid tape. Hoecht looks like a massive WIN. Addison is playing 2nd fiddle to JJ, and is nowhere near his ceiling. WR and Addison puts us over the top. I'm getting dragged a bit above with the "wheres anyone hearing Addison available".... i get it, its not being reported. Hes not on the block. Theyre a little frustrated with him, they cant pay JJ & Addison... they need a QB againnnn. I think a solid offer could benefit both teams. They probably don't WANT to move him yet... but with their unsolved problems and QB play this year, could they really refuse to do it a year early? Maybe... but it just makes so much sense for both parties to me. Draftpicks are over valued, and we showed an interest before. We have relationship w/ team from previous deal. Go get some rings this year, figure the rest out next year with a pretty damn well rounded roster. I think we've all forgot what Josh looked like with a Diggs catching balls.